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    JamStone = The strengh of schedule site takes into account the Pistons have not played themselves.

    The Pistons this year are also helped greatly by the fact they only have to play the Spurs, Suns, and Mavs 2x (plus other relatively strong teams like Memphis and the Clippers) all year as the entire East, other than Detroit is a dissapointment period. Miami has not won a single game vs a top 5 team all year!

    Granted the Pistons are doing good against these teams so far (other than the Mavs) but teams change throughout the year. Playing in the East has to be worth 3-4 games this year easily.

    Re the point differential it has been a significant predictor of dominance in any era and right now granted the Pistons have a pretty good differential but again it was not as high as the Spurs were for much of last year and the
    Spurs now have about a 7 point differential, despite 4 more losses!

    This suggests that when the Spurs are on they are right now developing into a team that is pretty close to the level of the Pistons despite continuing injury woes.


    My prediction is that the Spurs will surge to within 1-2 games of the Pistons for HCA then when Pistons clinch and Spurs hold off Mavs - Pop rests starters last game or two.

    Pistons 67 wins - still a darn good accoplishment.
    Spurs 64 wins

    Each team will be barring injury within 2 games either way of that. That give the Spurs a slight chance if they can finish say 31-6 with 66 wins of eaking out the Pistons (if they dropped to 65) for the HCA but it will very difficult.
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    The Pistons this year are also helped greatly by the fact they only have to play the Spurs... 2x (plus other relatively strong teams like Memphis and the Clippers) all year as the entire East, other than Detroit is a dissapointment period. Miami has not won a single game vs a top 5 team all year!
    We're 2-0 against the Spurs and we dominated both games so how are we helped by only playing them twice?
    Seems more like a help to the Spurs.

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    Next to "the starters will be fatigued," the greatest source of hope for Spurs fans. So many Spurs fans want to see one of the Pistons starters go down so they can see the Pistons struggle. Quite honestly, it's sad.
    What's sad is that Pistons fans can't associate the team's health with the 3 game lead in the standings.

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    We're 2-0 against the Spurs and we dominated both games so how are we helped by only playing them twice?
    Seems more like a help to the Spurs.
    The help to the Pistons is that both games were early in the season.

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    2 losses in a week for detroit.

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    39-7 is still the best record in the league. Losses will happen over an 82 game schedule. Digging up this thread because of a loss is pretty funny.

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    Dear JamStone:

    Losses early in the season do not mean much to the Spurs, Manu did not start either game etc.

    Don't look back, the best thing to happen to the Spurs it seems like was losing to Detroit and getting pushed hard by the Mavs.

    4 games back (3 losses and tie breaker) for HCA - Mavs stll only 3 back.

    It is not implausible the way all these teams are playing = Spurs on an upswing now with relatively full health, Mavs continuing to gell and surprise with their record vs. Detroit coming back to earth recently to see either the Spurs or Mavs catch them for best record!

    After all the pompous Pistons "smugness" this year (not by the fans as much as by the players) it would be a wonderful thing to see and don't count against it!

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    Dear Rummpd:

    Where in my last post did I even mention anything about the Spurs' losses?

    Where in my last post did I mention the Spurs' losses to Detroit?

    Where in my last post did I say the Spurs or the Mavs would not be able to catch Detroit for the best record?

    You read way too much into things.

    I just thought it was funny a Spurs fan was so excited about Detroit losing that he/she had to go looking for this thread to up it. That's all.

    Call it pompous or smugness if you want. It is your goal in life to discredit the Detroit Pistons team. Have your happy moment. Congratulations.

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    2 losses in a week for detroit.
    They lost two of three earlier this season (at Dallas L, vs. Denver W, vs. Washington L).

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    Detroit is losing their edge. I think their honeymoon period with Flip Saunders is wearing out. Now it will be hard for them to regain the focus they had earlier the season.

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    Detroit is losing their edge. I think their honeymoon period with Flip Saunders is wearing out. Now it will be hard for them to regain the focus they had earlier the season.
    I guess we'll see what happens from here on out. I have full confidence that the Pistons will maintain their focus.

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    Detroit is losing their edge. I think their honeymoon period with Flip Saunders is wearing out. Now it will be hard for them to regain the focus they had earlier the season.
    This is absolutely what you wish would happen. But it won't.
    I hope Dallas will keep their focus during the playoff too, if they want to win the spurs.

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    Detroit should focus on playing their bench a little more. If not, theyll need more than Motor Up and synthetic oil to keep the engine chugging!

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    All this talk about starters playing to much minutes is very overrated. They are athletes all their life and can manage to play whole 48 minutes every game if they need to without problems. It all goes down to willpower and pistons had plenty of that so far. If they continue to be lucky with injuries to their starters they will get that 1st seed this year, but i believe in spurs playoffs.

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    All this talk about starters playing to much minutes is very overrated. They are athletes all their life and can manage to play whole 48 minutes every game if they need to without problems. It all goes down to willpower and pistons had plenty of that so far. If they continue to be lucky with injuries to their starters they will get that 1st seed this year, but i believe in spurs playoffs.
    Actually minutes do wear down players. There are 82 games in the regular season and playing heavy minutes can really take a toll. The nba season is a marathon and not a sprint. Teams who play their starters heavy minutes won't likely keep up their intensity and start to slow down. If Flip is doing this than he is making a mistake and maybe a reason for the latest letdown.

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    Actually minutes do wear down players. There are 82 games in the regular season and playing heavy minutes can really take a toll. The nba season is a marathon and not a sprint. Teams who play their starters heavy minutes won't likely keep up their intensity and start to slow down. If Flip is doing this than he is making a mistake and maybe a reason for the latest letdown.

    If you truly believe that, you must be worried about Dirk Nowitzki wearing down and breaking down, since he's played every game and has averaged 37.8 minutes a game (more than any Pistons starter). And, since your team would be completely different with a worn down Dirk, I guess you should worry very much as well.

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    that is why the mavs may also ran out of gas before the play-offs

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    You're right, Detroit's record isn't that impressive.

    What's impressive is how they've managed to finish games. OT win against the Bucks, 4th quarter last night against the Grizz, ass-whooping the practically unbeatable Spurs on their home court. That is what's impressive about the Pistons. Not the number of wins, but HOW they've managed to win.
    you a very smart basketball fan!

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    If you truly believe that, you must be worried about Dirk Nowitzki wearing down and breaking down, since he's played every game and has averaged 37.8 minutes a game (more than any Pistons starter). And, since your team would be completely different with a worn down Dirk, I guess you should worry very much as well.
    Well I was thinking of players that have to play 40+ minutes. Also depends on their style of game. It takes a lot more energy on offense as a slasher than to be a jump shooter. Also strength and conditioning is huge. I think a player that is likely to run out of steam is Steve Nash since he has to do so much for Phoenix. Dirk is usually catch and shoot.

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    flip said that he's going to play the bench more especially on back to backs.

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    flip said that he's going to play the bench more especially on back to backs.
    Good time to start.

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    Hunters back!

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    Dirk is usually catch and shoot.
    u got that right that's why mavs wont win

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    u got that right that's why mavs wont win
    Most of the pistons team is catch and shoot. You are stupid to say the catch and shoot players can't win.

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    It's almost re ed to think that their record isn't impressive.

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