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Hey did you get the permission from Chuck?
Having seen the slow-mo replay, the elbow appears to have been quite deliberate. I rescind my earlier support for the FF1 and now believe the FF2 was justified.
Hey did you get the permission from Chuck?
I see they didn't consult you, either. Fact is, he is in the league. So, he should be treated accordingly. If no other player in the league would have been suspended for this infraction, then Artest shouldn't either.
I cant believe they are suspending Artest and not suspending Nazr for his vicious three point shot!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm just worried now that the Kings are gonna decide to take Manu out in the last game of the series. I mean, so they get a suspension for the first few games of next season. That's probably not enough of a deterrent to stop them. There's a meanspiritedness about Sacto and its fans that you don't find with some other clubs. Spurs, please sweep this series so we can get over the manufactured melodrama and on with the rest of the playoffs.
Sounds like you should be protesting somewhere outside for Ron Artest's equal treatment rights
HahaHey did you get the permission from Chuck?
The knevermind was a quickie edit cause I posted something stupid
Considering that, obviously, the elbow to Manu's head WAS deliberate, Had he given Manu a concussion or broken his socket, I'm glad you see Artest as just another NBA player, especially given his selfish violent childish acts of the past.
He is lucky to be in the NBA, and anyone would love that opportunity to play in the league and show class. He was warned and he continues his antics.
Throw him out. We don't need wanna-be thugs in the NBA trying to hurt players sending the wrong message to kids. Perhaps people wouldv'e loved to see Manu's head bleeding all over the court or something to understand how dirty this guy is and why he shouldn't even be on the court.
I'm expressing an opinion...just like you.Sounds like you should be protesting somewhere outside for Ron Artest's equal treatment rights
Looking at that guy STILL makes me want to puke!Any spurs fans remember this elbow:
How many spurs fans felt sorry for Karl Malone after that? And how is that cheap shot any different then this one other then the fact that manu wasn't knocked unconscious.
Bottom line is if you're out there trying to hurt people you don't belong on the court.
Once again, this is mythical. Didn't happen.
I've already said all that. It's too late to expel him from the league for the Detroit rumble, though. He's already served the punishment the NBA saw fit to award for that. We have to operate with the reason we have now.
I didn't think Mike Tyson should have ever been allowed to fight again, after Holyfield, either. But, like I said, unfortunately, the powers that be rarely listen to me.
Well this isn't boxing, it's not supposed to be a brutal fight. It's basketball.
And his past applies because his suspension was not only punishment, but a warning and message to him and the rest of the league that this would no longer be tolerated.
But what do you know, the head case is at it again. I want to agree with you, but this guy is out to hurt people when he's upset. You can't have that.
This could play into Sacto's hands. They will be pissed and play harder, and SA might have a letdown.
Beware!
Sacto may play harder than they did last game but still we will prevail.
Believe!
They simply don't have enough talent, sans Artest, to beat the Spurs, regardless of how motivated they might be. Then, after being down 0-2; they need 4/5. Not gonna happen.
Thanks, smartass. I was just using the Mike Tyson thing as another example. Can't you just agree to disagree and let this go? We are not going to change each other's minds. Your point is as valid and I understand why you feel the way you do. My point is valid too, and it does not make me wrong because I disagree with you (and others). All it means is that we have differing opinions.
WOW! surprised at the decision! but better safe than sorry....
GO SPURS!!!!!
As I sit here and read this thread I wonder if any of you even watch the games?
Stern suspended Artest to send him a message: "Hey Artest you will lose the series you will get blown out every game, but you will NOT hurt these players!"
Artest did not got suspened from that play alone. Thats the only one they have a call on, so thats the one they have to say he got suspended for. He got suspended for all these:
1. Elbow to Duncan's Head (which POP was fighting with Artest about)
2. Elbow to Manu's Head
3. The way he knocked down Parker on his drive.
4. Kocks down Parker again on insuing drive!
5. Got wrapped up with Horry under basket.
I mean it was so obvious. Even the announcers after parkers two take-downs were saying "Artest has been called for his third and fourth foul, sending a message to Adelman to take him out of the game as this will not stand"
So I don't know what all you fakers in here are talking about. Artest is a thug from ridgewood, ny (about 10 miles from where I live) He's a loser who will take a shot at somebody when he realizes he will not win the series.
In my opinion Artest will not finish his career in this league. He will get explelled. And with all due respect this league does not need un-educated thugs like this one. He can go back to Ridgewood and deal some crack rather than play ball.
He should be proud to be playing in this league rather than bringing his street mentality to the big leagues. I mean what does he think he is going to scare people? He is going up against millionaires he don't give a rats ass about Artests elbows to the face. They just shrug it off and wonder what a re Artest is. Artest reminds me of that bully on the basketball court when you were young and would always knock you down when you drove in. Yes Artest I always wanted to be that guy to you loser!
I agree that the suspension was deserved.
The guy is mentally ill and admittedly does not like taking his meds. He can either be a great asset to his team and the league or a huge liability.
The NBA can't suspend Artest for being mentally ill or not taking his meds. They would have every mental health advocacy group trying to sue their pants off. The only thing that they can do is suspend Artest when he becomes a danger to himself or to others. He knew that the league was looking at him and he intentionally threw more than one elbow anyway. He knows that he is more aggressive w/out his meds and he doesn't take them anyway.
The NBA's actions are a natural consequence of Ron Artest's behavior.
[AUOTE=NBA FOUL RULES]Section IX--Punching Fouls
a. Illegal contact called on a player for punching is a personal foul and a team foul. One free throw attempt shall be awarded, regardless of the number of previous fouls in the period. The ball shall be awarded to the offended team out-of-bounds on either side of the court at the free throw line extended whether the free throw is suc-cessful or unsuccessful.
b. Any player who throws a punch, whether it connects or not, has committed an unsportsmanlike act. He will be ejected immediately and suspended for a mini-mum of one game.
c. This rule applies whether play is in progress or the ball is dead.
d. In the case where one punching foul is followed by another, all aspects of the rule are applied in both cases, and the team last offended is awarded possession on the sideline at the free throw line extended in the frontcourt.
e. A fine not exceeding $35,000 and/or suspension may be imposed upon such player(s) by the Commissioner at his sole discretion. [/QUOTE]
Give it up already pache. I can see that you're one of these kinds of people who just can't ever admit to being wrong. But in this case, you're just going to have to deal with it.
Let me guess. Here comes the part where you attempt to retort by trying to differentiate between a "thrown elbow", and a "thrown punch." Spare me. You're wrong.
Pretty weak by the NBA.
They should have just fined him.
This is a guy who is still throwing elbows to the head after being suspended for ONE YEAR. Do you really he's going to give two s about a little fine?
No. And he won't care about getting suspended. But Manu flopped (or exaggerated the contact, if you are offended by flopped) so I don't think it warranted a suspension. IMO, it just should have been a flagrant in the game, a fine and that's it.
It didn't look that intentional to me. It does kinda ruin the 2nd game without him cause we want to make him witness the destruction...
Ginobili’s antics may have worked in getting the Kings best player thrown out.... But Don’t count on it in the later play-off rounds... A triangle has three sides but one straight line...
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