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    I cannot grok its fullnes leemajors's Avatar
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    The Spurs won 63 games last year with Rasho and Nazr tag teaming the center position.

    Right now if things don't change you're going to replace them with Javtokas and Oberto and a 56 year old Robert Horry.

    That doesn't exactly instill confidence in the front office.

    If they're being cheap I'm going to have to join Marcus on the Peter Holt is a cheap crusade.
    and just yesterday aggie was telling people it was only july 3.

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    Did Ludden say they aren't gonna offer the full MLE elsewhere?


    I wouldn't freak out yet.

    Guys like Evans and Pargo will be around in July and August.
    So you don't think they're being cheap by not offering Joel a full MLE deal, but you want us to go spend the MLE on scrubs like Pargo? That makes no sense whatsoever.

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    and just yesterday aggie was telling people it was only july 3.
    The problem is the Ben Wallace domino fell yesterday, and since then it's been full speed ahead with the remaining quality free agents.

    A lot can happen in 24 hours, and has. The FA crop will be largely dried up by the end of the week.

    The Spurs are still sitting here having addressed absolutely no needs:

    1. Long SF
    2. A quality center or PF to take the pressure off Tim on the glass and defensive end
    3. Backup PG

    The most damning fact of all is the Spurs not offering Przybilla the full 5 years for the MLE contract that you knew teams would offer him, especially with Wallace off the market.

    This team appears to be headed towards addressing exactly zero off-season needs, and worse yet everything I see so far leads me to believe Pop has embraced the idea of small ball, which means the Spurs will never win another le. I thought Miami put a fork in that idea with their ownage of Dallas, but Pop looks like he's still stuck on stupid.

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    a lot can happen between now and november, too. i'm not ting bricks yet, but the seeming lack of effort on the front office's part is a tad troubling.

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    To me it makes sense to move to a sleeker, more athletic frontline here in 2006. You already have the best center in the game on your roster. Surrounding him with a motley group of power forwards who can rebound and play physical while devoting your resources to the perimeter is the direction in which I believe the Spurs should head.

    Rasho and Mohammed never came close to breaking 30 minutes a night as the starting 5. About the only reason I can see for signing a starting center is that Yao is in your division and Shaq may be waiting for you in the Finals. But it's not like Mohammed is that great defensively.

    I have no problem with lessening the amount of the payroll devoted to the frontline and increasing it on the perimeter. As long as you have a little rebounding at the 4 spot the Spurs should win it all. But if you don't spend on anything this summer...

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    If the Spurs preferred Pryzbilla over Mohammed, then dammit they should have offered him the desired 5-yr contract. Everyone knew that as soon as Detroit lost Ben Wallace, they would come hard after Pryz. The Spurs shpuld have never allowed a desperate Detroit team to get "into the bidding mix"

    On the other hand if the Spurs are ok with bringing Mohammed back, they shouldn't wait for another desparate, center-less team to drive up his price. There is a strong possibility that Nazr could walk away "scot-free", just as Big Ben did. Remember, Nazr is under no obligations to the Spurs to do a S&T, thereby leaving the Spurs with nothing in return - just like the Pistons.

    Either way, they simply must do something to shore up the hole at the 5 spot. I can't imagine anyone on this board or in the Spurs FO feeling confident entering next season with a lineup of bigs that simply include Duncan, Javtokas, Oberto, Horry and Marks.

    This passive at ude the Spurs seem to have with regards to pursuing and signing FAs is getting old. The object of the offseason is to get better by making moves to improve the team. Outside of dumping Rasho's contract and signing Bonner, they've done nothing else. I'm almost ready to sound off with others who have claimed the Spurs FO as being cheap. If they sit on their asses and do nothing the rest of the way, you can count me in the group.

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    I can't believe the Spurs are being cheap at this point. They unloaded Rasho's contract, Nazr is about to walk but they can't give the best center on the market a max MLE contract. Would a 5-year, $30M contract really break the bank?
    I told people a few days ago and got blasted for it-- The Spurs are being cheap and don't want to give anyone more than 3 years on a deal. Shipping out Rasho's contract was to cut costs- not to open things up to spend that money elsewhere. Nazr will probably walk too- with nothing in return- and the Spurs will have cut even more costs.

    I also got majorly laughed at over my claim that Oberto will start. Why does it surprise anyone that the Spurs would want to turn the guy making $2.5M into the starter?

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    Bet the Spurs and Nazr get a deal done

    4 years prob 18 20 million.
    I have to think some team offers Nazr better than that.

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    I told people a few days ago and got blasted for it-- The Spurs are being cheap and don't want to give anyone more than 3 years on a deal. Shipping out Rasho's contract was to cut costs- not to open things up to spend that money elsewhere. Nazr will probably walk too- with nothing in return- and the Spurs will have cut even more costs.

    I also got majorly laughed at over my claim that Oberto will start. Why does it surprise anyone that the Spurs would want to turn the guy making $2.5M into the starter?
    No one's laughing now. In fact we all have a right to edgy about all this. What the is the FO waiting on?

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    Why would the Spurs FO want to pay guys that sit on the bench during the playoffs? I wouldn't.

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    Spurs won 63 games playing their traditional lineup.

    Miami won the NBA Championship because they pounded the out of the Mavs using their traditional physical lineup and a lotta help from D-Wade.

    If RC and Pop are changing their strategy all of a sudden, they're making a mistake. I agree the Spurs should be versatile and possess players that give them the ability to play a smaller, quicker style, but not a total conversion to that style.

    small ball.

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    OK I may have missed it but where does it say that they didn't offer Pryz the full MLE and that it was only half of it?

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    Why does it surprise anyone that the Spurs would want to turn the guy making $2.5M into the starter?
    Because he sucks and isn't starter quality.

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    Because he sucks and isn't starter quality.
    Again, why is that surprising?

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    I told people a few days ago and got blasted for it-- The Spurs are being cheap and don't want to give anyone more than 3 years on a deal. Shipping out Rasho's contract was to cut costs- not to open things up to spend that money elsewhere. Nazr will probably walk too- with nothing in return- and the Spurs will have cut even more costs.

    I also got majorly laughed at over my claim that Oberto will start. Why does it surprise anyone that the Spurs would want to turn the guy making $2.5M into the starter?
    You must be new here.

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    The Spurs are going after Lebron.

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    Detroit makes too much sense for Przybilla not to go there but we'll see. Hopefully he makes his decision soon.

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    We have done nothing that would make me think the Spurs are contenders next year. Do something. Are they really this stupid?
    Are you really that stupid ?
    We are only July 4th.

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    I would be happy with either Lorenzen Wright or Scot Pollard if Przybilla signs with Detroit. Wright may be a little healthier, but Pollard's R/48 is a little better, and I like his size when we go up against Yao and Shaq -- we don't have anyone else with that kiind of bulk except Tim.

    Also -- yay on Donta Smith. He was frozen out of playing time behind all their swingmen in Atlanta, and seems like a plausible prospect for us.

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    I'm getting really pissed at the Spurs administration or whoever the decides who we get. The teams in the NBA, especially in our conference are getting better, and WE NEED A CENTER AND YOUTH. We have done nothing that would make me think the Spurs are contenders next year. Do something. Are they really this stupid?
    Did we all of a sudden lose Duncan, Ginobili and Parker or something. Honestly have Spurs fans forgotten about these three. STFU on the real. Spurs in all actuality only need one more role player to get back into the Finals next year but for some reason everyone is expecting them to go out and sign Garnett, Pierce, Iverson and Lebron with a $5 million MLE. Spurs are fine and its only July 4th. Just because everybody else wants to pay way too much for second tier players doesn't mean that our FO should do the same.

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    If the Spurs and Blazers don't do a swap and trade for Przbilla and Nazr, then I'm afraid the following scenario might take place:
    Phone ringing, woman answers: o
    male voice at other end: Hi, this is Greg Popovich. Is this Mrs. Pollard?
    woman interrupts Popovich: How did you get this number? Are you a
    telemarketer?
    Pop: No, No, I'm the coach of the San
    Antonio Spurs. May I speak with Scott?

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    Did we all of a sudden lose Duncan, Ginobili and Parker or something. Honestly have Spurs fans forgotten about these three.
    Did you forget that we just lost the Western Conference Finals to a team that will be better next year? Meanwhile we've lost one center, probably both our centers, and have absolutely zilch for depth at center, and 400 year old Robert Horry is no spring chicken at PF.

    STFU on the real. Spurs in all actuality only need one more role player to get back into the Finals next year but for some reason everyone is expecting them to go out and sign Garnett, Pierce, Iverson and Lebron with a $5 million MLE.
    We need more than one little role player, we've got at least two holes on this team right now at the 5 spot and the wing, and really need a third PG as well.

    No one's expecting them to go out and sign KG or Lebron with the MLE, quit being such a re .

    People just want to see the Spurs address some very obvious and very real needs, and the talent pool to address those needs is thinning by the hour while the Spurs try and low ball guys who address them.

    Wake the up and quit being such a homer.

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    Did we win a ring with him? Ya.
    i must have missed that happening. fill me in.

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    Did you forget that we just lost the Western Conference Finals to a team that will be better next year? Meanwhile we've lost one center, probably both our centers, and have absolutely zilch for depth at center, and 400 year old Robert Horry is no spring chicken at PF.
    if there's any position where depth is less necessary, it's center. the problem against dallas was not bad personnel, it was bad coaching. if javotkas can produce and if oberto can improve, and if pop doesn't suddenly ditch a defensive plan he's used all season, the spurs will be just fine.

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