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This guy sounds like hed play fantastic vs a Phoenix or Dallas.
Call me crazy, but Id do it.
Would he play well VS Miami and others with bigs? No, but thats were Javtokas comes in.
Im tellin ya, either him or Collins, get a swing, start the year.
Yes I think he is not strong enough to play center in NBA.
He can score from almost anywhere, but he has trouble against strong players becouse he could be boxed out easyly.
I think he could be good fit for Spurs small ball but only if he would play at 4 and Duncan at 5 and he could use his great court vision and passing ability to initiate fast breaks.
And he has good blocking ability too.
This guy sounds like hed play fantastic vs a Phoenix or Dallas.
Call me crazy, but Id do it.
Would he play well VS Miami and others with bigs? No, but thats were Javtokas comes in.
Im tellin ya, either him or Collins, get a swing, start the year.
I would rather have an unproven player...
I would rather have Oberto as a starter....
Than Collins.....
Vujcic is very good, but I`m not sure if he`s strong enough. If people thought Rasho is soft... Basiccally everything was already said. Good shooter and passer. I think he might not be as good a rebounder as Scola and Javtokas, and not so strong. But better in pretty much everything else. Though he`s older I think. Could struggle against stronger players.
Also, TPark mentioned guarding Dirk. I think he could do that, he`s more mobile than Rasho or Nazr (and possibly Duncan). But except for that I`m not sure if it would be worth it for the Spurs the get him. He wouldn`t be so cheap.
Also, I agree that having 3 players unproven in the NBA at center is not a good idea. So, I guess a tough call.
Collins is complete and utter crap, and so is his brother. I can't believe anyone is acting like they will make any kind of a difference.
They won't. They will not make the difference in us winning a le. I'd rather go with Oberto and Javtokas.
Collins will have this board kissing Rasho and Nazr's butts to get them back....those guys are HOF'ers compared to the Collins brothers.
I seriously hope the Spurs are not wasting any time considering this player.
I rather see Michael Finley start 82 games at C/PF than see Collins relied on to do squat other than ride the IR. A dime spent on this guy is a dime thrown away.
I am going to get pissed if I even have to look at Collins in a Spurs jersey.
Or shoot at a good PCT, or defend well...in short, Collins does not do except take up space, and he doesn't even do that well.
Personally I am not that upset the Spurs haven't signed anyone of note yet...
A bunch of GM's are signing players to a bunch of dumbass contracts, making this one of the stupidest offseasons ever. I don't want the Spurs to do that, and so far we haven't missed out on any difference makers that were within our power to get.
And C is not our problem anyway...if it comes down to it we start Horry....not that big of a deal.
yeah
In other words.... that !
I agree 100% with everything above and laughed hilariously at most of it. I'd rather give an unproven guy a chance than a proven scrub. However I can see the other sides point even if I don't agree with it. Collins does suck very bad in my opinion but I can't say for certain any of the Euros will do any better than him(even though I probably could).
Spurs showing interest in Jazz's Collins
By Tim Buckley
Deseret Morning News
The San Antonio Spurs have emerged as a potential suitor for Jazz free-agent center Jarron Collins.
The Jazz have said they want to re-sign Collins, who has spent his entire five-year NBA career in Utah.
The team, however, also has indicated it will not overpay for Collins, who made $1.7 million while averaging 5.3 points and 4.2 rebounds per game last season.
Collins, meanwhile, is testing the league's recently opened free-agency market — and apparently drawing some interest from San Antonio, where the local paper calls the Stanford product "the top NBA free-agent center left on the market."
According to a report posted Thursday on the San Antonio Express-News' Web site, Collins' agent, Bob Myers, called the Spurs "an attractive option."
Myers also said his client is assessing all options — one of which evidently includes re-signing with the Jazz.
The Spurs probably will not overpay for Collins, either.
But they are searching for a center to play alongside star Tim Duncan after Nazr Mohammed recently agreed to sign as a free agent with Detroit and Rasho Nesterovic was traded to Toronto.
Besides Mohammed, centers Ben Wallace (who agreed to leave Detroit for Chicago) and Joel Przybilla (who orally committed to re-sign with Portland) also are off the market.
http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,640193046,00.html
Yeah, he can stay in front of Dirk like you can stay away from Big Mac.
It definitely made sense that the Spurs should not pay TWO starting center salaries- but they should be prepared to pay ONE if they want to win a championship. They traded Rasho away knowing full well they had absolutely NO intent to re-sign Nazr nor bring in Scola. The Spurs were more interested in cutting payroll than focusing on what is needed basketball-wise. Sure there are teams that go small but a true center is still needed to play against certain teams- and not only Houston and Miami- if the Spurs have any hope of securing the best possible play-off positioning. Notice the contract mentioned as what would make Scola come-- 3/$9M There is nothing unreasonable-- or $4M/year-- about that at all.
As to these other centers- posters do know that Rasho's European career- and at a much younger age- was more impressive than either of them. Spurs fans are clamoring over a euro big man whose game is primarily about finese.The new coach at Maccabi is the Croatian coach who I believe used to coach Javtokas in Lithuania. I also found it rather odd that this article about the Spurs search for a center never mentioned Javtokas in it- even in passing. I told you all Oberto is going to start, and I got laughed at and ridiculed.
chris anstey anyone? he mite be skinny n , but dude has range on his jumpshot
June 17, 2006-- before Maccabi hired new coach
http://www.crobasket.com/main.asp?P=...&VijestID=8792Nikola Vujcic leaving Maccabi is the most likely event to follow. After the rumors of going to Madrid and playing for Real, some new cir stances arose. Real failed to qualify for the Euroleague and the club is also awaiting elections for new president.
Lack of Euroleague matches, despite Real’s fight for the wild card, made Madrid a lot less interesting destination for the Croatian center. Forthcoming elections stopped all the negotiations with the players until the new president is elected. Considering everything, it is not likely that Vujcic will be playing for Real Madrid in the next season. But he’s not lacking offers from other clubs.
Greek giant Panathinaikos, host of next season’s Euroleague Final Four tournament wants Vujcic in its roster. According to Spanish and Greek media, PAO is willing to pay our player 1.5 million euros per season. Enough? We’ll see. Vujcic is in no hurry to sign new contract, especially since he said that NBA option is still alive. 29-year old center can probably earn a lot more in Europe (taxes) and he would have secured playing time while all that may not be the case in NBA. We just have to wait and see whether Vujcic would opt for Europe or for USA.
Last week of June 2006 on the interbasket forum, a poster said Vujcic was staying at Maccabi, but I found no verification.
Sometimes it appears that the Spurs are simply going through "public" motions to make it look like they are looking for a center, when they aren't. Just like they publicly acted like they wanted to re-sign Nazr when that was never going to happen.
Last edited by furry_spurry; 07-07-2006 at 09:50 AM.
maybe there's a euro balla playin centa out there for timvp to get pumped about.
European Center? That means no agression.
Vujacic could play off the bench like horry did this year. He will give less on defense but more on offense. In a smallball era (thanks david s.....), this guy is made for it. I think, he's gonna ask for too much money for the spurs.
Javtokas is going to be the energy big that rose once was
This is whack! The Spurs are desperate.
desperate less than a week into free agency? give me a break, they are just looking at other options. desperate would be calling jake voskuhl nonstop...
WTF?
I just figured they were waiting out the top of the market since they were going to platoon next to Duncan anyway. But adding yet another unproven guy -- and a soft one to boot -- makes absolutely no sense.
Ick.
C'mon. Desperate is the word when you call Jarron Collins. The center position in the NBA today is whack. We all know it.
And what do you call Collins?
at least collins gets pt. the spurs aren't desperate yet. maybe most of the fans in this thread are, but i doubt the front office is.
i'd rather have a big 3 who can shoot and keep his feet on front of dirk than having collins who's main event is to have a twin playing in the league
we are so ed
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