The point is not whether Elson is acceptable for the price. The point is that the Spurs are having to fill gaping holes in their rotation with bargain-basement players who have little likelihood of making any positive impact.
Oh well, I guess that is the price they have to pay for going for broke with Barry and Finley the past two years, and for the mistake of signing Rasho. Eventually it catches up with you. Too bad it has to be when so much of the rotation is getting old and gray.
Looking at the way the payroll is structured, luckily there probably will be just the one lost season. Next year, they have a ton of expiring contracts.
No that is the price you pay for having three guys who command big money. Dun, Gin, and Par use up more than half the Cap. Then when you keep 7 other players from the previous year. You will have little spending room. Why lock yourself down on a guy who is going to produce sub par. We have a star PG, a star swing, and a star bigman. The rest matters very little.
Just for personal curiosity, what were those stats that timvp threw out. I think I missed them.
As far as elson goes, I still don't see the spurs planning on starting him. And for a backup, we did all right. I guess if they do start him, I will be a little surprised and confused.
The big 3 will win you 50-55 games. If you're content with that, then you'll be OK with this season.
The Spurs spent much of the 1990's working under the notion that it was OK to have gaping holes in the lineup filled by the Vinny del Negros and Will Perdues of the world because the play of their stars was enough to compensate. That worked like gangbusters in the regular season.
Then, in the playoffs, the other elite teams took those gaping holes and ripped the Spurs apart.
Those stats, I think, are in this thread in a string of posts dealing with his playoffs last year, where his production was by far the worst of any Denver player, and how the Clippers badly outscored the Nuggs when he was in the game - while Denver pulled more than even in the minutes he wasn't.
I don't see any other starter on the squad. That's why I'm saying Elson is the starter. You can start Oberto, perhaps, but if you can, then why sign such a pitiful player like Elson?
So what are our gaping holes? Other than center, i think we are pretty stacked. And if we pull in butler and elson, i have no worries.
I can't believe we are talking about all this crap and Javtokas is out of the picture.
SA210 - I know man, I know. We hate athletic, aggressive centers with mean streaks.
I'm still... holy , we passed on Javtokas!
I think they go small with either bonner or horry more of the time.
Our team is allergic to rebounding.
I just can't get over this. One of the dumbest decisions, I swear!SA210 - I know man, I know. We hate athletic, aggressive centers with mean streaks.
I'm still... holy , we passed on Javtokas!
I'm a believer
you went after our Eason. You will pay!
Please tell me the Nuggets match Francisco Elson.
I hope we do.
So to get any shot at Javtokas at all, I'm assuming that the Spurs would have to get denied Elson and Butler today, right now, right?
I strongly disagree.
He's a very good head coach that has turned every team around that was struggling before he took over. However, he's not a championship caliber coach.
The main problem with Karl is that he's a good 2-3 year coach and then he quickly wears out his welcome. Doesn't make him a terrible coach. Just not a good long term solution.
correct, karl is a good coach that grates on his players after a while.
For lack of a better word... perfect!
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drm...846734,00.htmlThe Nuggets must decide whether to match a two-year, $6 million offer sheet given to free-agent center Francisco Elson by the San Antonio Spurs.
Warkentien received the offer late Thursday night, and Denver has until July 20 to match the deal, which is believed to be evenly split at $3 million this season and $3 million in 2007-08.
"You can rest assured that decision won't be made until the sixth or seventh day," Warkentien said. "We'll take our full time to ponder that and ponder market conditions."
Warkentien and Elson spoke Thursday, but the discussion gave the 7-foot center little clue how things will turn out next week.
"They're making me wait and making me kind of nervous," Elson said Friday night.
Elson, who averaged 4.9 points and 4.7 rebounds last season, has been a part-time player in each of his three seasons in Denver and would prefer to play for the Spurs, who could offer more playing time.
Warkentien said Elson's preference would be one of the factors in making a final decision.
"Everything's considered," he said. "Cisco's been with us a number of years. Decisions aren't going to be based on the last couple days."
Elson, who will quadruple his 2005-06 salary, could be a domino of sorts.
His return or departure will have implications for free-agent forward Reggie Evans and unhappy forward Kenyon Martin.
Evans is seeking his own deal with a first-year salary around the midlevel exception, while Martin would become even more expendable if Elson returns as another option in the middle.
Warkentien declined to comment Friday on negotiations with Evans, whose agent, Dan Fegan, did not return phone messages.
Interesting. That means that Spurs have made offers that put them $400k-$600k over the tax threshold (even if they waive Sanders, Melzer and Smith), it's a good sign that Spurs will do another move.which is believed to be evenly split at $3 million this season and $3 million in 2007-08.
So Evans is a bit more expensive than we thought.
if they do not resign evans and just decide to let him walk
I bet they match elson
Evans thinks hes worth the MLE?
that is why wolves pulled out of the evans sweepstakes
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