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    Maybe a good defender against a player like Diaw. We can always use Finley against Amare

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    No one is applauding it, but why is is a disaster to sign someone.

    As far as I remember Finley and Barry are backing up the 2 & 3. Bonner & Horry have the 4 covered and Williams can play either the 3 or 4. Both sheets won't be signed and maybe neither, so we pull in at least one center if not two. And if we do lose out on butler and elson, then we will throw most of our mle at someone like wright or we will make a trade. Settle down a bit. This was a minor transaction that doesn't count against the cap. He won't be our savior but he won't cost us the season.
    How was any of that supposed to be reassuring?
    Barry is old and in decline.
    Horry is in steep decline and may have so little left that he does an NVE impression this year.
    Bonner is Matt Bullard if we're lucky.
    Williams is worthless.
    If the Spurs do get Elson, well hooray they've gotten a third-string scrub from a .500 team to play starting center. If the Spurs don't get Elson, they'll have to get a pair of NBDL players or bad European scrubs to play heavy rotation minutes.

    Butler will be matched.

    Oh, you forgot Bowen -- he's 35 years old now. Cross your fingers and hope he doesn't lose a step this year, or get used to everybody scoring on the Spurs the way Dallas did.

    The Spurs are not going to use their MLE because they are scraping up against the luxury tax and Holt is not going to pay it again this year.

    If the Spurs make a trade, it will fill maybe one of these gaping holes.

    While I hate a lost season in the middle of Duncan's prime, I get that they rolled the dice in making veteran FA acquisitions the last two years that have now left them cash-strapped and old. They have too many holes to fill and not enough resources to fill them to field a true le-contending team next season. It will take until 2007-08 to get back on track.

    I'm not thrilled about it, but I understand it. I can understand optimism and faith in the front office, but the obvious facts staring us in the face is that they are chasing third-string scrub players on bad teams to play key roles, and counting on squeezing another year of spring out of some very old legs. To ignore all that and pretend everything is fine, and this isn't really the year the Spurs pay up for the Rose, Rasho, and Barry contracts, well you have to engage in a level of Pollyanna-BS denial of reality rarely seen outside of rooms with padded walls.

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    TURN YOUR VOLUME ALL THE WAY UP FOR THIS. IT'S MORE DRAMATIC.

    THE DRAMA CONTINUES.....

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    How was any of that supposed to be reassuring?
    Barry is old and in decline.
    Horry is in steep decline and may have so little left that he does an NVE impression this year.
    Bonner is Matt Bullard if we're lucky.
    Williams is worthless.
    If the Spurs do get Elson, well hooray they've gotten a third-string scrub from a .500 team to play starting center. If the Spurs don't get Elson, they'll have to get a pair of NBDL players or bad European scrubs to play heavy rotation minutes.

    Butler will be matched.

    Oh, you forgot Bowen -- he's 35 years old now. Cross your fingers and hope he doesn't lose a step this year, or get used to everybody scoring on the Spurs the way Dallas did.

    The Spurs are not going to use their MLE because they are scraping up against the luxury tax and Holt is not going to pay it again this year.

    If the Spurs make a trade, it will fill maybe one of these gaping holes.

    While I hate a lost season in the middle of Duncan's prime, I get that they rolled the dice in making veteran FA acquisitions the last two years that have now left them cash-strapped and old. They have too many holes to fill and not enough resources to fill them to field a true le-contending team next season. It will take until 2007-08 to get back on track.

    I'm not thrilled about it, but I understand it. I can understand optimism and faith in the front office, but the obvious facts staring us in the face is that they are chasing third-string scrub players on bad teams to play key roles, and counting on squeezing another year of spring out of some very old legs. To ignore all that and pretend everything is fine, and this isn't really the year the Spurs pay up for the Rose, Rasho, and Barry contracts, well you have to engage in a level of Pollyanna-BS denial of reality rarely seen outside of rooms with padded walls.
    Couldn't have said it better.

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    Were gonna suck so much this year.

    And its Horrys last. damnit
    It's amazing how everytime the Spurs FO does another stupid thing after another, people still keep saying it's ok and telling themselves it's actually a great thing.

    The FO have lost their marbles since about Game 2 of that Dallas series.

    Reward for anyone who finds them.
    Reward is back to "Spurs basketball" once again.

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    Why exactly should anybody be applauding the front office for acquiring a guy to fill an IR slot?

    Hey, yeah, we need a starting center, a backup center, and somebody to play significant minutes backing up both forward spots, but forget that, we've got the IR fodder covered! Yippee! Yay front office!
    Shut the up man, your damn annoying. No one can really about Rich Melzer seeing as how no one knows who the he is.

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    I like Matt Barnes and all. But you can't sell him as 6'9.5. His listed height is 6'7.
    Yup, I liked Barnes alot. And he's NOT 6'9". He's closer to 6'6''. Met him when me and our significant others were at Bath and Body works. He's nowhere near even 6'8".

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    Shut the up man, your damn annoying. No one can really about Rich Melzer seeing as how no one knows who the he is.
    Maybe that's the problem.

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    How was any of that supposed to be reassuring?
    Barry is old and in decline.
    Horry is in steep decline and may have so little left that he does an NVE impression this year.
    Bonner is Matt Bullard if we're lucky.
    Williams is worthless.
    If the Spurs do get Elson, well hooray they've gotten a third-string scrub from a .500 team to play starting center. If the Spurs don't get Elson, they'll have to get a pair of NBDL players or bad European scrubs to play heavy rotation minutes.

    Butler will be matched.

    Oh, you forgot Bowen -- he's 35 years old now. Cross your fingers and hope he doesn't lose a step this year, or get used to everybody scoring on the Spurs the way Dallas did.

    The Spurs are not going to use their MLE because they are scraping up against the luxury tax and Holt is not going to pay it again this year.

    If the Spurs make a trade, it will fill maybe one of these gaping holes.

    While I hate a lost season in the middle of Duncan's prime, I get that they rolled the dice in making veteran FA acquisitions the last two years that have now left them cash-strapped and old. They have too many holes to fill and not enough resources to fill them to field a true le-contending team next season. It will take until 2007-08 to get back on track.

    I'm not thrilled about it, but I understand it. I can understand optimism and faith in the front office, but the obvious facts staring us in the face is that they are chasing third-string scrub players on bad teams to play key roles, and counting on squeezing another year of spring out of some very old legs. To ignore all that and pretend everything is fine, and this isn't really the year the Spurs pay up for the Rose, Rasho, and Barry contracts, well you have to engage in a level of Pollyanna-BS denial of reality rarely seen outside of rooms with padded walls.

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    He is 61, so while younger than Horry, he doesn't address the Spurs needs to get younger.

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    Spurfans have just surpassed Mavfans on the whine-o-meter because of a summer league signing in July.

    Congratulations.

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    If Spurs land Elson and Butler with this signing that puts them at 15 so I guess that'd be the team short of a trade or contract buyout.

    PG- Parker, Udrih, Vaughn.
    SG- Ginobili, Finley, Barry
    SF- Bowen, Williams, Melzer
    PF - Duncan, Horry, Bonner
    C - Butler, Elson, Oberto

    No Woods.

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    We'll see if Munch shows up on the NBA transactions. If not, it's just an SL deal.

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    Spurs sign two new forwards

    Web Posted: 07/14/2006 03:19 PM CDT

    Johnny Ludden
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    The Spurs have signed rookie forwards Rich Melzer and Jamar Smith.

    Only a small percentage of each player’s minimum-salary contract is guaranteed, so both will essentially be trying to make the team in training camp in October.

    Melzer, 26, played briefly in the NBA’s developmental league last season. Smith, 26, averaged 11.4 points and 7.2 rebounds for Austin in the NBDL last season.

    Both players are on the Spurs’ summer-league team in Salt Lake City.

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    Told you.

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    It's gotta be a make-good contract.

    Huh?

    A partially guaranteed contract does not equal a make-good contract.

    Like I said, it had to be partially guaranteed.


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    Chump has a bug up his ass today for some reason.

    Most everybody realized this was a non-guaranteed or whatever. We were just making fun of it because it joined a series of perfectly underwhelming moves by the FO this summer.

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    My definitions must be off. I thought they were the same. At any rate, I said it's just a summer league signing.

    Let's go for another 6 pages discussing that.

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    My definitions must be off. I thought they were the same. At any rate, I said it's just a summer league signing.
    They are training camp invites. The Spurs rarely give partial guarantees to those invites. The only one in recent memory was James Thomas ... and we all know how well that worked out.


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    Summer league, make-do contracts usually means no guarantee of any money. They obviously gave these guys a little money and made them sign the 2 year deals to keep them away from other teams in case they pan out. If they don't, cut them with very little loss. I wonder if they'll both make it to camp.

    Anyway, it's a non-issue at this point, I'd imagine Melzer got at least 100K or else he wouldn't have had such a farewell with his old team.

    Let's see what these scrubs do in today's game vs the mighty Mavs.

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    Six more pages for guys who won't make the team, then.

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    Six more pages for guys who won't make the team, then.
    We should vBookie it to see if they are even in training camp. I think one of them won't be there.

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    Were doomed ya know...

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    They obviously gave these guys a little money and made them sign the 2 year deals to keep them away from other teams in case they pan out.
    So at worst, we stole Jamar Smith away from the Nets before they could have a good look at him?

    That's probably the best news of this offseason.

    Jamar will start for the Toros in December.

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