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  1. #176
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    Kobe has improved some
    as far as passing may go.
    he is a good deal
    As much as i dislike kobe, i can't not see the truth. Kobe is the best player in the world. Spurs fans like to say that their own Tim Duncan is the world's best player, but its just not true. Tim Duncan is probably the second best player in the league in terms of offense and defense. The guy can play both sides of the ball and spurs fans should be proud to have him on their team as he is a class act on and off the court. There's nothing wrong with being the 2nd best in the entire world out of all the millions of people that play basketball in almost every country.

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    Joe Johnson is a great role player. He is a Scottie Pippen type of player. A perfect compliment to a superstar. That's why I think he fits so well complimenting Wade and Lebron.
    your right but your also wrong. you are a Mavs fan on a Spurs board so you will always be wrong. Comparing Joe Johnson to Scottie Pippen when the Dallas Mavericks are your favorite team, is "idiot Mavsfan Bull " or "youve never won a championship, your team is a bunch of whiners so your wrong Mav " or "go to "

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    ^ LMAO to some people that is so true. Some spurs fans arent stuck up and respect other peoples opinion no matter who they go for.

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    the mavs have become a one on one basketball team. they ranked last or near the last in the NBA in assists. the spurs played to the mavs advantage and still almost beat dallas at their own game. miama proved that if you take away the drving lanes the mavs looked lost and confused..they reverted to loveable mavs of the past..a soft jump shooting team..
    Okay, looked it up. You are right about Mavs ranking last or near last on assists. But, you forgot that between Spurs and Mavs: Mavs score more points per game than Spurs, they have more steals per game, they have more blocks per game, they have fewer turnovers, more offensive rebounds, and free throws made and attempted, the percentage is higher. They are not your Grandma's Mavs anymore! While we are on it, there were a lot of the same areas we had you beat too. Sometimes not as good as Dallas, sometimes better.
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    your right but your also wrong. you are a Mavs fan on a Spurs board so you will always be wrong. Comparing Joe Johnson to Scottie Pippen when the Dallas Mavericks are your favorite team, is "idiot Mavsfan Bull " or "youve never won a championship, your team is a bunch of whiners so your wrong Mav " or "go to "
    I'll put that in my sig.

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    As much as i dislike kobe, i can't not see the truth. Kobe is the best player in the world. Spurs fans like to say that their own Tim Duncan is the world's best player, but its just not true. Tim Duncan is probably the second best player in the league in terms of offense and defense. The guy can play both sides of the ball and spurs fans should be proud to have him on their team as he is a class act on and off the court. There's nothing wrong with being the 2nd best in the entire world out of all the millions of people that play basketball in almost every country.
    2nd best of active players maybe second best all time? if so then just keep kissing spur ass

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    2nd best of active players maybe second best all time? if so then just keep kissing spur ass
    STFU no one is kissing spur ass, he is obviously one of the top players in the world. That's not kissing ass thats stating the facts.

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    STFU no one is kissing spur ass, he is obviously one of the top players in the world. That's not kissing ass thats stating the facts.

    This entire thing of 'the finals were fixed' is kinda gay. it's a known fact that every time a team loses, it's the refs' fault. Not the team's. The Mavs got calls against them, but so did the spurs. the whole NBA is like that, and it starts with david Stern. Bad calls happen. The refs are only human, but then again, 50-32 free throws is slightly rediculous. Th finals were not fixed. Neither was the Sna Antonio series. both teams had thier chance to win, and they failed. Miami is a bit pompous and I am hoping a Texas Team (preferrably the Spurs) will knock them off thier one-legged high and mighty dunce stool and shut those bas s up. Shaq's fat ass doesn't need another le.

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    your right but your also wrong. you are a Mavs fan on a Spurs board so you will always be wrong. Comparing Joe Johnson to Scottie Pippen when the Dallas Mavericks are your favorite team, is "idiot Mavsfan Bull " or "youve never won a championship, your team is a bunch of whiners so your wrong Mav " or "go to "
    HAHA, that was two mavs fans arguing over joe johnson.

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    This entire thing of 'the finals were fixed' is kinda gay. it's a known fact that every time a team loses, it's the refs' fault. Not the team's. The Mavs got calls against them, but so did the spurs. the whole NBA is like that, and it starts with david Stern. Bad calls happen. The refs are only human, but then again, 50-32 free throws is slightly rediculous. Th finals were not fixed. Neither was the Sna Antonio series. both teams had thier chance to win, and they failed. Miami is a bit pompous and I am hoping a Texas Team (preferrably the Spurs) will knock them off thier one-legged high and mighty dunce stool and shut those bas s up. Shaq's fat ass doesn't need another le.
    Have you seen him recently? He's already put on 25-30 lbs since the end of June Gaining a lot of weight in the offseason and trying to play his way back into shape during the regular season is gonna eventually catch up to him. This might be the year.

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    HAHA, that was two mavs fans arguing over joe johnson.
    ahem, im not a fan..........

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    Have you seen him recently? He's already put on 25-30 lbs since the end of June Gaining a lot of weight in the offseason and trying to play his way back into shape during the regular season is gonna eventually catch up to him. This might be the year.

    Ya I kno! He's like a walrus, only fatter!

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    Ya I kno! He's like a walrus, only fatter!
    Now that he's got a ring w/o Kobe, he might have a hard time caring anymore. I think he's got 3 more years on his contract though. Heat fans might be in for a long 3 years cuz Wade can't win le w/o Shaq drawing a lot of attention on D.

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    Duncan is the best player in the league but the mavs are for real. The depth of their team is unbelievable.
    Yes Johnson who had 1 breakout series (not the first time a player has done that then go back to being below average),Buckner,George/Ager,Croshere,Dampier,Mbenga is just so damn ing great. I would take Banks,Barbosa,James Jones,Kurt Thomas over that. Mavs bench is good but you and every other Mavs fan act like this bench is so damn amazing and overrate dramatically it's funny

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    Now that he's got a ring w/o Kobe, he might have a hard time caring anymore. I think he's got 3 more years on his contract though. Heat fans might be in for a long 3 years cuz Wade can't win le w/o Shaq drawing a lot of attention on D.
    Put Shaq down on the block and he will draw attention. Its no different than what it was in LA. Shaq can score all day long, just shut down Kobe(ok limit Kobe). You have to shutdown Wade, Shaq gets the rock he's gonna score

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    Yes Johnson who had 1 breakout series (not the first time a player has done that then go back to being below average),Buckner,George/Ager,Croshere,Dampier,Mbenga is just so damn ing great. I would take Banks,Barbosa,James Jones,Kurt Thomas over that. Mavs bench is good but you and every other Mavs fan act like this bench is so damn amazing and overrate dramatically it's funny
    You act like you just listed the entire mavs bench. Those are just a few of the players the mavs added or resigned this offseason. You even forgot to mention Anthony Johnson. Not to mention one of the runners up for the 6th man award, jerry stackhouse. In my opinion, the mavs have the deepest bench in the league.

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    You act like you just listed the entire mavs bench. Those are just a few of the players the mavs added or resigned this offseason. You even forgot to mention Anthony Johnson. Not to mention one of the runners up for the 6th man award, jerry stackhouse. In my opinion, the mavs have the deepest bench in the league.
    I did mention johnson reread what I said. Also outside of stack that bench is nothing special. Id take the suns bench over yours. Kurt thomas>any big the mavs have off the bench. Banks>most of the Mavs guards except Stack.
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    I did mention johnson reread what I said. Also outside of stack that bench is nothing special. Id take the suns bench over yours. Kurt thomas>any big the mavs have off the bench. Banks>most of the Mavs guards except Stack.
    Harris>Banks, Stackhouse<Barbosa, George=Jones, Dampier>Kurt Thomas, and Anthony Johnson, Croshere, and Ager> Suns scrubs after that.

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    Harris>Banks, Stackhouse<Barbosa, George=Jones, Dampier>Kurt Thomas, and Anthony Johnson, Croshere, and Ager> Suns scrubs after that.
    Kurt thomas gives your more O and more toughness inside for a cheaper price. Harris is starting so he doesnt count for the bench but if we are using starters Nash/Bell/Diaw/Marion/Amare>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Softie Harris, JET,Josh Howard, Softie Dirk, and Diop. James Jones can do a little more then Devon George. as for the AJ,Croshere Ager one I can agree with. Like I said this is a nice bench but its not that great. If we are gonna add in starters like I said earlier into the mix then we are talking entire ball clubs as a whole and if this is the case then Suns>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>Mavs

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    Unfortunately for the suns their defense isn't good enough for their individual offensive talent. Obviously these teams are very evenly matched up but I think the mavs are a better all around team while the suns are all offense and no rebounding and defense.

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    hey Shaggy, suns>mavs? I get criticized for saying the mavs have a deeper bench than the spurs but you are allowed to say bull such as suns>mavs? Aren't you a spurs fan anyways? Why is it any of your concern?

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    Unfortunately for the suns their defense isn't good enough for their individual offensive talent. Obviously these teams are very evenly matched up but I think the mavs are a better all around team while the suns are all offense and no rebounding and defense.
    It took you 6 games to beat a Suns team with No Amare, No Kurt Thomas and a 1 legged Raja Bell. They came within a quarter of pushing you to a game 7 and you have yet to prove you can beat a healthy suns team. The Suns team who beat you 2 years ago is even better now and with Amare back along with all the other pieces, Suns>>>>>>>>>Mavs. They have added toughness and heart this past year and it showed. Add in the never give up mindset of the Suns with Amare and the Mavs are in deep . Amare and Kurt Thomas will help with the boards along with their defense. Also cant forget about what Raja Bell and Boris Diaw bring to the table on both sides of the ball along with Marcus Banks. The suns IMO are a much bigger threat then the Mavs as far as winning the west goes. Also the Mavs lack a superstar so if you wanna talk about weaknesses we can talk about that. Land a superstar (As I have said so many times Dirk is an all-star who cant handle physical play and needs the refs to bail him out in the clutch), a post up player, guys who arent big softies like Harris and Dirk when a team like Miami gets physical with them and knocks them on their asses hard, can beat the Spurs without bull help from the refs, tell your owner who admitted that the refs played a vital role in them actually making the finals to STFU, and somebody who actually knows how to take out an exercise bike and you might have yourselves a championship team .

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    hey Shaggy, suns>mavs? I get criticized for saying the mavs have a deeper bench than the spurs but you are allowed to say bull such as suns>mavs? Aren't you a spurs fan anyways? Why is it any of your concern?
    Also saying the Suns with amare are better then the Mavs isnt bull . Look what happened 2 years ago and look how much the Suns pushed you without their 2 bigs Kurt Thomas and Amare along with a hobbled Raja Bell. I am a spurs fan but I am telling you that not only will you not be better then the Spurs but you wont be better then the Suns(If healthy) either. If we dont go small ball and if bull doesnt happen we will beat you in a 7 game series.

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    The Suns team who beat you 2 years ago is even better now and with Amare back along with all the other pieces

    No, they have lost key players such as Joe Johnson and Q richardson, while the have picked up others.

    Suns>>>>>>>>>Mavs.

    You make this assumption before the season even begins? This further proves that you are a moron and a troll.

    The suns IMO are a much bigger threat then the Mavs as far as winning the west goes.

    There you go making predictions, Nostrodamus. How do you know this before the season even begins?

    Also the Mavs lack a superstar so if you wanna talk about weaknesses we can talk about that. Land a superstar

    Are you ing kidding me? Anyone who claims Dirk is not a superstar should be banned for being such a ing moron. LMAO thats funny there

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    One Team, One Goal: 2007 NBA Champions!! shaggy17's Avatar
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    The truth hurts. Superstars pick up their play to the highest level in the finals and dont rely on the refs to bail them out in the clutch. Superstars can handle physical play and are never afraid to take the big shots especially if a championship is on the line. And the Suns got nice pickups in dealing Q and Joe Johnson in Kurt thomas and Boris Diaw along with the Hawks future pick. A healthy Suns team will beat the Mavs in the playoffs but sadly we have to wait until May before that happens. Also how am I a troll? I am a spurs fan on a spurs board .

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