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    No, it's not a fact. It's a characterization of poll responses.
    Oh, the US public is rabid in its support of Afghanistan now.
    And, they've taken over Afghanistan again? They've experienced a resurgence in an area, largely never taken by the coalition.
    Why didn't we largely take it?
    So much so, they've started resorting to terrorism and assassinations. Not a sign of a strong military presence.
    Not a strong sign that Afghanistan is better off.
    Not relevant to your assertion that Iraq has spoiled Afghanistan.
    Uh, it IS my assertion, goofball. Of course you'll never believe any poll for either Iraq or Afghanistan that doesn't support your opinion. That doesn't make them cease to exist.

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    Oh, the US public is rabid in its support of Afghanistan now.
    rabid? I would never characterize anyone but the Left as being rabid.

    Why didn't we largely take it?
    Well, some parts couldn't be taken without suffering a Russian style quagmire. Containment seems the better course.

    Not a strong sign that Afghanistan is better off.
    Sure it is. It says the Taliban can't amass troops to confront the coalition militarily because every time they tried, they were annihilated. Is it a good condition? No. But, is it a sign Afghanistan is being lost. Nope.

    Uh, it IS my assertion, goofball. Of course you'll never believe any poll for either Iraq or Afghanistan that doesn't support your opinion. That doesn't make them cease to exist.
    Okay, how is the "continued insurgency and body count in Iraq" the third fact supporting your assertion that "unfortunately, Iraq spoiled the effort in Afghanistan in more ways than one?"

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    Well, some parts couldn't be taken without suffering a Russian style quagmire. Containment seems the better course.
    Hmm, where would a terraist go to make a new base?
    Is it a good condition? No.
    Thanks for agreeing with me again.
    Okay, how is the "continued insurgency and body count in Iraq" the third fact supporting your assertion that "unfortunately, Iraq spoiled the effort in Afghanistan in more ways than one?"
    The continued insurgency and body count in Iraq has kept public opinion of that conflict low, now folks are seeing the same thing happen in Afghanistan, lowering public opinioin of that occupation as well. We can get into troop levels if you like, but if all we wanted to do in Afghanistan was avoid a quagmire, we shouldn't have gone in the first place.

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    Thanks for agreeing with me again.
    Funny how you see that as agreement.

    The continued insurgency and body count in Iraq has kept public opinion of that conflict low, now folks are seeing the same thing happen in Afghanistan, lowering public opinioin of that occupation as well. We can get into troop levels if you like, but if all we wanted to do in Afghanistan was avoid a quagmire, we shouldn't have gone in the first place.
    I can't make people educate themselves on the two different fronts in this war. If their opinion of the Iraq conflict drives their opinion of the Afghanistan conflict (or, vice versa), that would explain the idiots responding to your poll.

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    Funny how you see that as agreement.
    It's not good.
    I can't make people educate themselves on the two different fronts in this war. If their opinion of the Iraq conflict drives their opinion of the Afghanistan conflict (or, vice versa), that would explain the idiots responding to your poll.
    So you agree with me again....

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    Damn, give a dimm-o-crap one sentence out of a whole report and
    look how they can expand on things. Kinda reminds me of what they
    can do on spending money and increaing taxes. Oh, I forgot they
    lowered the deficit, except they didn't.

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    Damn, give a dimm-o-crap one sentence out of a whole report and
    look how they can expand on things.
    They gave us four pages. Why only four?
    Kinda reminds me of what they
    can do on spending money and increaing taxes. Oh, I forgot they
    lowered the deficit, except they didn't.
    A Democratic President and a Republican Congress got rid of the deficit. Those were the good ol days.

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    They gave us four pages. Why only four?A Democratic President and a Republican Congress got rid of the deficit. Those were the good ol days.
    Four pages is a whole lot more than one sentence. Isn't it?



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    Four pages is a whole lot more than one sentence. Isn't it?
    Yes. That's why I questioned your "one sentence" sentence.

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    Why, yet another thread where the Bushies have given up.

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    Yay.

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