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So if you are saying that 5% is HUGE then you would be willing to admit that Josh Howard is no match for Bowen at 3s right?
He isn't because he doesn't get as many touches.
So if you are saying that 5% is HUGE then you would be willing to admit that Josh Howard is no match for Bowen at 3s right?
Saying the only thing that separates Bruce Bowen and players like Dirk/Howard is that Bruce doesn't get as many shots MIGHT BE THE STUPIDEST THING EVER.
HAHAHA....this can't be for real can it? Are you Jessica Simpson....is it chicken or fish? Sure hope that you are acting like a moron on purpose.
No, we are making the arguement that 43% from the field DOESNT suck.... as Amarelooms pointed out it does.... dont cover his assinine tracks for him.
no, YOU need to go back to school.... the whole BASIS for percentages is based on how many repi ions there where.... take a look at the ammount of shots taken beyond the arc.... I could easily say I have a 100% freethrow shooting ability if I only take 2 freethrows.... does that make me better then someone with a Ft% of 76% when they shoot over 200? no.
5% is only huge if they took the same ammount of shots.
to give you an idea what 5% would be... if they both took 200 3pt shots, 5% would mean they made 10 more 3pt shots then the other person out of 200.
Sure I'll give you that Bruce Bowen can shoot corner 3's better than any Maverick...congrats Now tell him to work on his inept skills like...shooting shots other than corner 3's, dribbling, creating his own shot, passing, and I don't know something fundamental like making free throws?
Well if Bruce got as many shots as Dirk and Josh would it still be THE STUPIDEST THING EVER if he got around the same amount of points as them? If they both shoot 20 shots and make between 8-12 of them is it still THE STUPIDEST THING EVER just because you stupid head can't get the fact through that anyone can average just about the same amount of points if they got the same amount of touches. If Diop got like 20 touches down low, don't you think he'd get a good amount of points?
and I contend, since when has he been required to do ANYTHING other then defend? (which he obviously is at the top of that game) Why should he focus on being an offensive threat when he already is one without trying? All we expect bowen to do is defend, and if the shot is there, then take it.
Are you claiming Bruce Bowen is taking the same type of shots Dirk is? Has Bruce Bowen EVER DRAWN A DOUBLE FREAKIN DOUBLE TEAM? I would be NO.
CONVERSATION OVER.....YOU ARE ALL OBVIOUSLY TRYING TO BE
SILLY (at least I sure hope so) Congrats
Bowen is a good shooter from the corner three, almost automatic, but I am certain that the Mavs would much rather have Bowen taking the shots then any of the big three.
As for Harris having the ball .... That is what PG's do. You should know this, his game is the same as Parkers only three years ago. Did Parker get the ball to the people that counted? Yes, you know why? Because its what PG's do.
They couldn't have done otherwise, the centers were not quick enough to recover on DefenseShould the Spurs have played Mavs ball?
A PG needing the ball to be effective? Name one that doesn't. When Parker has the ball, is he taking it out of Duncans hands? Or is it just the way things are. You see what Harris does is use blinding speed to get to the rim, and as the defense collapses, he dumps it off to his All-Star PF, or kicks it out to shooter .... Does that sound familiar ... It should, its exactly what the Spurs do with Parker and Duncan, you should know that it works rather well.As for the speed issue, both Terry and Harris needs the ball to be effective (Terry less so), and if either of them gets it, it means the ball off of Nowitzki's hand.
Did this work last year? Do you think that the Mavs will move away from what worked last time, or do you think its more likely that they keep doing what works?Parker can deal with one, while Ginobili can deal with the other
None of these guys did very good last year either (Oberto didn't even see the floor), that's why Bowen got the job. You see. That is the first domino to fall. If none of those guys can slow Dirk, Bowen has to be moved to him (domino #1), That leave no-one to guard Howard, if Terry and Harris are on the floor, The Spurs are forced to bring in a "Small" to guard Howard (The center can't handle him) (Domino #2) As you can't play 6 men, the center has to come out (He has no-one to guard), because Duncan isn't going to sit (Domino #3). And what happens?Bowen on Howard, Elson/Finley/Oberto/Horry/whoever on Dirk,
Spurs go small with Parker, Manu, Finley, Bowen and Duncan.
As Finley and Horry couldn't guard him last year, I guess your hopes rest on Oberto and Elson being able to do it and staying out of foul trouble.
To be honest, the chances don't look good. The Spurs are much better off going Zone, at least Zone works.
What is your point? Why would they give it to Diop when they have plenty of players who are better scorers than him? Same reason they don't give it to Bowen, he's terrible offensively. Other than spotting up in the corner, he has no offensive skills.
dont be stupid, you know I never claimed that... you are just trying to avoid your up in claiming Bruce is some mediocre player on offense... dont play dumb, I know your not. I never mentioned Dirk, or any other maverick by name for that matter. Besides that, EVERY team knows Bowen is going to camp the corner... why NOT send someone at him and force him to take those "Dirk" shots? Until they do, you cant claim that Bruce is NOT an offensive contributor.Are you claiming Bruce Bowen is taking the same type of shots Dirk is? Has Bruce Bowen EVER DRAWN A DOUBLE FREAKIN DOUBLE TEAM? I would be NO.
CONVERSATION OVER.....YOU ARE ALL OBVIOUSLY TRYING TO BE
SILLY (at least I sure hope so) Congrats
While I'm at it, I'll be sure to tell Dampier, Diop, Buckner, Johnson, George, and Josh.
HAHA...HAHAHAHA.....HAHAHAHAHA
Ok you win I can't take it....SPURS RULE...MAVS SUCK.
BRUCE BOWEN is BETTER THAN ALL THE MAVS inclduing DIRK, Terry, Howard, Stackhouse, etc. Bruce Bowen is a future HOF.
In fact, BOWEN >>>>> JORDAN. Kobe wishes he had the talent Bruce does...I mean Bruce has a higher 3% percentage so Bowen is better than him right?
GET THE F OUTTA HERE WITH YOUR RE LOGIC LOL!!!
You can never win an argument here at Spurstalk. You say something that's common knowledge, such as "Bruce Bowen is not an offensive threat," and they twist things around and back peddal while getting no where. Bowen is good at what he does, defense, but don't ever try to act like he's this great scorer. Aside from spotting up in the corner, he can't dribble, create his own shot, shoot free throws, or shoot from anywhere outside of the deep corner. HE IS NOT A FREAKING OFFENSIVE THREAT.
And that is the conversation-ender.
None of whom besides Diop are as bad as Bowen from the line. Your argument is useless.
Wow someone else who knows basketball. Don't try to argue with them it's pointless.....
You are such a hypocrite. You were first saying that 5% is a HUGE matter. Now you are saying Bowen is better than Kobe because he has 3% on him. What point are you trying to make? Bowen is a great 3-point threat. That is what makes him a theat on offense. I don't know what you are trying to pull.HAHA...HAHAHAHA.....HAHAHAHAHA
Ok you win I can't take it....SPURS RULE...MAVS SUCK.
BRUCE BOWEN is BETTER THAN ALL THE MAVS inclduing DIRK, Terry, Howard, Stackhouse, etc. Bruce Bowen is a future HOF.
In fact, BOWEN >>>>> JORDAN. Kobe wishes he had the talent Bruce does...I mean Bruce has a higher 3% percentage so Bowen is better than him right?
GET THE F OUTTA HERE WITH YOUR RE LOGIC LOL!!!
Because Bowen isn't as much in traffic as those guys, so we don't have to worry about him at the line as much as those guys. YOUR argument is useless.
Let me enlighten you to what sparked this debate.....
We never WHERE talking about FT%, running the court, turnovers, ect. we where talking about FG%. Leave it to a Mavs fan to try and win an arguement by changing what they argued against in the first place.... Look. I got NO problem with the Mavs, except perhaps the owner, but you guys need to quit your spin act.
WTF? How many times they get to the line is irrelevant to how good of free throw shooters they are. The guys you say need to work on free throws all shoot better from the line than Bowen, YOUR ARGUMENT is useless.
Not trying to pull anything....going back to my original point which is a fact even if you don't like it. One poster said the Mavs can't put Terry on Bowen cause he will "shoot over him". To which I responded that Bowen can shoot all he wants...the Mavs WANT HIM TO SHOOT.
Why you ask with your simpleton mind? Because Bruce Bowen is a role player and offensively all he can do is shoot corner 3's when he is WIDE OPEN. Other than that HE SUCKS ASS IN EVERY ASPECT OF THE OFFENSIVE GAME. Sad fact I know...but the truth hurts sometimes.
I STILL dont get how this went from "FYI genius 43% from the field SUCKS." to free throws....
What the ? Your the one with the spin act. You idiots think that just because Bowen has a slightly lower field goal % than say Howard or JET, that he is as much as an offensive threat? That's complete bull and you know it, otherwise you're just plain stupid.
Although it is irrelevant, why should we worry so much about Bowen's FT% if he's barely gonna be there anyway? Although it is not a fact, you can agree with me that Bowen won't be at the line as much as those guys. At the most he'll be at the line for at least 2 attempts per game.
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