2006 Thread: Spurs Pass on Corey Maggette

[timvp]

Ok. You guys win. Let's break the bank for Mr. Glass (in more ways than one) Corey Maggette, who will kill our chances to get an actual SF, is extremely injury prone, and will wreck what continuity our bench has by costing our best bench player.

Corey Maggette costs as much as Josh Childress and Mickael Pietrus COMBINED.

Yeah, that's a new invention called a rookie contract. And you really think the Hawks are Warriors are looking to trade those players who are cheap and have longterm potential.

[Mr. Body]

To say Maggette is better right now than Childress or Pietrus is seriously overvaluing Maggette. Corey Maggette is WYSIWYG. Injuries+no perimeter game+prima donna personality+demand to start is a lot to swallow, beyond the fact that he makes only about a million less than Manu Ginobili per year, plus two more years. He is not likely to opt out of that third year, if he is a Spur.

I would love to have Maggette, but it's not a serious crime to pass him up. That's a lot of junk to swallow for a guy who, if he doesn't improve the team very much, kills all our flexibility.

Keeping Brent Barry is not such a ludicrous idea.

[timvp]

Corey Maggette isn't fragile? What??

Uh, I'm the one who called him a China doll. That doesn't make Pietrus not fragile though.

I think you're loving this guy far more than he deserves. Pietrus and Childress are far better players than Maggette is THIS YEAR.

Do you watch any of these guys play. Childress plays for a horrible Hawks team and Pietrus plays for a run and gun Warriors team. Put Maggette on either of those teams and he averages 20+ without a problem.

Childress gets most of his points on the inside? Where does Maggette get his? At least Chilly has worked on his outside game.

Maggette used to be a good outside shooter ... until he lost his shooting coach. The Spurs have him.

Picking Maggette over either of these guys is imbecilic. This forum is seriously overvaluing what Corey Maggette is.

If you seriously think Pietrus or Childress would help the Spurs more this year you really need to watch more basketball.

[Mr. Body]

Pietrus or Childress off the Spurs' bench would be a mighty punch. Not quite the answer to Josh Howard, but a bolt of youth and energy. Obviously they aren't available.

That doesn't mean we need to overpay for Maggette. If one of these things were different:

1) extremely injury prone
2) no outside game
3) very bad contract
4) costs Brent Barry

... then I'd be much more excited.

But then, if one of those was not the case, LAC would not be shopping him so desperately.

[timvp]

To say Maggette is better right now than Childress or Pietrus is seriously overvaluing Maggette. Corey Maggette is WYSIWYG. Injuries+no perimeter game+prima donna personality+demand to start is a lot to swallow, beyond the fact that he makes only about a million less than Manu Ginobili per year, plus two more years.

By the time Childress or Pietrus is ready to contribute, you are going to have to break the bank for them. You think they'll make $2M their whole careers?

He is not likely to opt out of that third year, if he is a Spur.

Of course he'd opt out. He'd be 29 and would be looking to cash in for last big contract.

Keeping Brent Barry is not such a ludicrous idea.

Brent Barry makes a lot of money, plays no defense, doesn't rebound, doesn't show up in the playoffs ... but at least he likes playing a role

[Mr. Body]

The second unit works largely because of Brent Barry and he's an expiring contract starting next summer. His efficiency this year has taken a lot of pressure off the starting unit.

I don't think Maggette opts out, necessarily. Isn't that the Summer of Love as far as big FAs on the market? He might need to wait until the next year to get a payday.

And I say again: Pietrus or Childress would impact this team just as much as Maggette would. But let's leave them aside. As we all know, that ain't happening.

[Mr. Body]

Do I like Maggette? Yes.

Do I think he's waaaaay too expensive? Yes.

The Spurs' FO is conservative. It pisses us off at times, sure. But this is a case where their prudence may be the best idea.

[Mr. Body]

Sorry for multiple posts, but I have to go_-

I'd be absolutely behind acquiring Maggette if they chose to. I just think a cost-benefit at this point marks him too costly. If we absolutely knew he'd opt out that last year or - miraculously - we could drop all expirings+Udrih+pick/Scola for him, I'd be tremendously excited.

As is, I think the scales tip in favor of No.

[timvp]

1) extremely injury prone

Funny you harp on that considering that Childress has played 9 games this year and Pietrus missed 74 games in his first three years in the NBA. Extremely fragile prone Maggette missed less than half of that.

2) no outside game

Would be true but of the three, Maggette has hit the most threes in a season. And it's not even really close.

3) very bad contract

You'd rather have Barry and Beno at two-years, $13.6M than Maggette at two-years, $14.8M?

Paying a 37-year-old Brent Barry $6M is going to be awesome.

4) costs Brent Barry

Is this the same Brent Barry who was the team's worst player in the playoffs last year and the guy who is currently the team's worst defender?

[Mr. Body]

Yes, the same Brent Barry. I don't see the same second unit without him.

Again, as I said before, if Maggette's contract was one year shorter (or he didn't take that last year), this is a different scenario.

All that aside, I still see the Spurs trying to acquire him. They may have seen the level of offers the Clips have been receiving (which are not good) and pulled back to a position of strength. I don't think this is over.

[polandprzem]

Once there were talks about karl malone....and how it ended?

[Kori Ellis]

Once there were talks about karl malone....and how it ended?

He retired.

What does that have to do with Maggette?

[polandprzem]

He retired.

What does that have to do with Maggette?

Nothing


But we have won that year

[lefty]

Still talking about Corey?????

FORGET IT, HE WON'T COME !!!!

Plus, I don't see the Clips giving up on him easily

[Mr. Body]

Still talking about Corey?????

FORGET IT, HE WON'T COME !!!!

Plus, I don't see the Clips giving up on him easily

He demanded a trade.

[Bob Lanier]

Now there's an idea. Somebody hunt down Stockton and ask him if he thinks he's better than Beno Udrih.

[lefty]

He demanded a trade.

So???
Doesn't mean they will trade him ;
and if they do, they won't trade him for Barry+Beno or Finley or whatever we'll offer them

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

You're a lunatic. Only two seasons of his career has he not averaged more turnovers than assists.

True, that was three and four years ago, when he was actually worth all the money people want us to pay him.

Considering you ed and moaned that we needed to pay Javtokas the entire mid-level exemption over the summer, pardon me if you're ing and moaning about Maggette's salary doesn't fall on deaf ears here...

We'd be paying him the same we're paying Beno and Barry now, and we'd be ditching our worst two defenders along with it. Win-win.

[Kori Ellis]

So???
Doesn't mean they will trade him ;

The Clippers want to trade him. Dunleavy doesn't want him there.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Still talking about Corey?????

FORGET IT, HE WON'T COME !!!!

Plus, I don't see the Clips giving up on him easily

Eight pages, and lefty is still clueless...

The Clips are the ones who initiated the talks, dumbass.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

So???
Doesn't mean they will trade him ;
and if they do, they won't trade him for Barry+Beno or Finley or whatever we'll offer them

Can you not read? They were already willing to do the Barry & Beno deal, the Spurs said no.

[lefty]

Eight pages, and lefty is still clueless...

The Clips are the ones who initiated the talks, dumbass.

I know, you asshole, but think about it : Corey is a terrific player ; we have good, but not terrific players to offer.

Hey, but after all, Sterling is able to screw things up, so we never now

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I know, you asshole, but think about it : Corey is a terrific player ; we have good, but not terrific players to offer.

Hey, but after all, Sterling is able to screw things up, so we never now

Can you not read? The Clips *are willing to do the deal*, the Spurs passed.

No comprende or what?

[lefty]

Can you not read? The Clips *are willing to do the deal*, the Spurs passed.

No comprende or what?

I do, I do, but maybe they were testing the market, or bluffing ; that has happened in the past

[50 cent]

Wtf??!?!?!?