Finally a trade? Report of Melvin Ely to the Spurs

[T Park]

Depends on how well, if he helps us regain some defense and rebounding along with putting up points, then yeah it may be worth the pick. But who knows, the upcoming draft is going to have a lot of talent.

If he brings what he brought last year in Charlotte.

Then yes, the first rounder is worth it.

[Mr. Body]

So if they resign him, then its a good trade?

I still don't like it. No first rounders.

[JPB]

No pick involved ?

[SenorSpur]

My guess is that the deal does not include a first round pick unless it's part of a bigger deal.

That's just a guess.

The should offer up the first round pick + Barry + Udrih to the Clippers for Maggette+Daniel Ewing

[timvp]

If they do trade the first and Ely plays well.

Is that as good as something youd get in this draft where they would be drafting?

QUESTION

I wouldn't trade a pick in this year's draft for him. This draft is pretty deep. But the main reason why I wouldn't want to give up any first round pick for him is I think this is a four month rental.

Would the Spurs really re-sign Ely? If he plays well, he'll be out of the Spurs' price range. If he doesn't play well, the Spurs would just re-sign Bonner.

Again, the main reason why the Spurs are doing this is to get under the luxury tax threshold. The fact they are getting back a guy they've wanted for a long time is just good luck.

[T Park]

What if what if what if

[Spurminator]

Out of curiosity, do the Bobcats have any reason to do this move if they DON'T get a pick in the deal? Both players are on the last year of their contracts.

[MoSpur]

I wouldn't go into work if he was involved

I would pre-order my Wallace Spurs jersey. I know it won't happen though. Wallace and Knight would solve the Spurs main issues. An athletic 3 and a backup point.

[T Park]

The should offer up the first round pick + Barry + Udrih to the Clippers for Maggette

That deal will happen when pigs fly.

[T Park]

What number does Ely wear.

2?

[FromWayDowntown]

So if they resign him, then its a good trade?

I can understand optimism, TPark, but you go completely in the tank with every move this team makes and see the rosy upside of everything without any real acknowledgment for the possibility of a downside. You did the same thing right out of the chute with Rasho and Nazr, IIRC.

Tim Duncan does a lot to make guys around him better, but he's not going to turn straw to gold.

I like the idea of making a deal to bring in some fresh and younger blood, particularly if you're able to get something for Eric Williams' expiring contract. But I don't think this is a singular move that makes the Spurs immensely better or that puts them over the top or anything like that. If they're able to parlay this deal into something else -- something that will get them a difference-making player, then it will be exceptional. For now, though, it looks like a solid financial move that might possibly have some basketball upside, or so we hope.

[Mr. Body]

Out of curiosity, do the Bobcats have any reason to do this move if they DON'T get a pick in the deal? Both players are on the last year of their contracts.

I don't think so, unless Ely is a cancer in their locker room. Williams will cost them more, anyway, although the Spurs can pay the difference I think. There has to be at least a 2nd to whet the Bobcats' appe e.

[VaSpursFan]

I would pre-order my Wallace Spurs jersey. I know it won't happen though. Wallace and Knight would solve the Spurs main issues. An athletic 3 and a backup point.

I'd piss myslef if that happened. G. Wall is a beast.

[duncan228]

I like that they're doing something. It almost seems like anything is better than nothing at this point in our season. They're acknowledging that there's problems, that sticking with what we have isn't cutting it.
Besides, I was having a bad day and this gives me something to focus on!

[Spurminator]

There is absolutely no reason for the Bobcats to trade Gerald Wallace to the Spurs. Let's go ahead and put that dream to rest.

[bigdog]

wow,i hope this happens. i wonder who we would trade. probably williams,but who knows

[ArgSpursFan]

i hope the bobcats also throw Herrmann in the trade.they are not playing him that much anyways

[Kori Ellis]

wow,i hope this happens. i wonder who we would trade. probably williams,but who knows

It is Williams.

[timvp]

Out of curiosity, do the Bobcats have any reason to do this move if they DON'T get a pick in the deal? Both players are on the last year of their contracts.

The Bobcats will get something more than the one-for-one deal. Ely > Williams. It has to be either a first round pick, a second round pick, rights to an overseas player or cash. And I'd guess it'd be a combination of those three.

If it's Williams for Ely, a second round pick and cash ... then that's a good trade

[td4mvp21]

i hope the bobcats also throw Herrmann in the trade.they are not playing him that much anyways

We don't need another Oberto.

[JPB]

What number does Ely wear.

2?

21

[AFBlue]

The Bobcats will get something more than the one-for-one deal. Ely > Williams. It has to be either a first round pick, a second round pick, rights to an overseas player or cash. And I'd guess it'd be a combination of those three.

If it's Williams for Ely, a second round pick and cash ... then that's a good trade

Perfect trade if it only involves Ely!

[pad300]

Once again your looking at the bull stats of a guy that plays as many minutes as Beno.

Look at his stats when given consistent 23 mins a game.


The come talk to me.


Butler wasn't and isn't playing this year. Get. OVER. IT!!!!!!

T park, I AM TALKING TO YOU ABOUT THOSE STATS. The stats presented were 2005/06 when Butler was with the knicks, getting minutes (averaging 9.3 mpg, 12.3 mpg, 63 games played), and Ely averaged 16 mpg (23 mpg for 57 games played).

How is this guy better than Butler - who's not getting any tick.


From Knickerblogger for 2005/06
NAME POS QUAL G MIN/G PTS/40 eFG FT TS% FT/FG PPR AST-r TO-r REB-r USG-r PER
Melvin Ely FC N 57 23.6 16.6 50.8 66.7 55.0 30 -3.7 11.1 14.6 11.9 18.2 14.4
Jackie Butler FC N 55 13.5 15.8 54.4 75.3 58.7 27 -6.1 7.4 18.5 15.0 17.2 14.9

Better rebounding. Better PER. What does Ely bring to the table that's worth paying for as opposed to playing Butler. Unless there is more to this, trading for Ely is purely lateral.. Which is NOT what we need.

[Kori Ellis]

My guess is that it is Ely for Williams, 2nd rounder and cash.

[Mr. Body]

If it's Williams for Ely, a second round pick and cash ... then that's a good trade

Unless, IMO, that's the Milwaukee pick. Currently at 35 or so, it's going to be a nice pick.