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    hahahaha youre gay for saying that. Must have been some freak of nature that your were born man. Hey some people have sex with animals, but then again i guess they were just born that way... hahaha
    i love the "if you allow gay people to do things, then you okay animal sex" crowd. as if one has anything to do with the other.

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    i love the "if you allow gay people to do things, then you okay animal sex" crowd. as if one has anything to do with the other.
    Now how I know you're gay? You go on and on about how disgusting sexuality is. These guys are either playing a character and trolling to elicit indignant responses....or they doth protest too much, if you catch my drift.

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    how about christianity ... that way you can abstain from any debate regarding publishing and translation. Second, why are people blowing what Tim said out of proportion! Weve all said and used the word "hate" millions of times in our lives with as much emphasis or less than what weve seen recently. Its just that he had a microphone in face when he said it.
    I think that's kinda the point, right? He is a public figure who used a public forum to give his opinions? Wait, I'm really confused by what you're arguing here.

    Ok, I'm guessing your first remark was the "how about christianity"? Again, wtf? I'll try and parse what you're saying. The United States was founded by Christians, so it's based on Christian values? Holy Jesus, read something written by the founding fathers, anything, their grocery lists for god sakes. Yeesh, ok never mind, this isn't the place for a civics lesson. One word: Deism.

    Now, thank you for aptly proving the point that I made in my first post. Great to see young minds at work.

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    hahahaha youre gay for saying that. Must have been some freak of nature that your were born man. Hey some people have sex with animals, but then again i guess they were just born that way... hahaha

    What are you, 10 years old? Or are you trolling? Which is it?

    Know how I know you're gay? You go on and on about how disgusting sexuality is. You doth protest too much.

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    This thread has officially been flushed.

    My fiance has been friends with a male individual since birth. When they would play together, he wanted to play Barbies, and be Barbie. When his father took him to the bike store and told him "Any bike you want" he picked the flourescent purple with pink streamers on the side, with a matching pink helmet at age 5. He never really had guy friends, always hung out with girls. He'e the best dressed person in any crowd. A degree in interior design.

    I, like alot of you morons in this thread, used to think homsexuality was a choice. While I still believe its fashionable to be gay these days and alot of people do choose to be gay, I finally realized people are born gay.

    Everyone knew he was gay since he was young, I think he did as well, but bigots like you ass-clowns kept him from coming out. Its prejudice pieces of that walk the earth that would threaten, harass and probably assault gay people. He doesnt live in California, he lives in Michigan, not exactly popular to be gay here.

    He came out (officially) last year at age 25. Just this Valentine's Day, he finally built up enough courage to tell his mother. She said "Pffffft, I've known that since you were 3 years old. I'll always love you."

    Tell me how ing cool that is? Hes standing up in my wedding and probably the best friend we have.

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    Tell me how ing cool that is? Hes standing up in my wedding and probably the best friend we have.



    I hope you got him to do the flower arrangements.

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    I hope you got him to do the flower arrangements.
    Naturally.

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    i love the "if you allow gay people to do things, then you okay animal sex" crowd. as if one has anything to do with the other.
    of course it does. Being with another man is a choice. So does being with an animal. Why wouldnt one be the same as another? Both are sexual preferences.

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    I think that's kinda the point, right? He is a public figure who used a public forum to give his opinions? Wait, I'm really confused by what you're arguing here.

    Ok, I'm guessing your first remark was the "how about christianity"? Again, wtf? I'll try and parse what you're saying. The United States was founded by Christians, so it's based on Christian values? Holy Jesus, read something written by the founding fathers, anything, their grocery lists for god sakes. Yeesh, ok never mind, this isn't the place for a civics lesson. One word: Deism.

    Now, thank you for aptly proving the point that I made in my first post. Great to see young minds at work.
    what does deism have to do with any of this? Aside from the idea that thats what you obviously believe in it seems.

    http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/religion/rel04.html

    why dont you read and educate yourself before making dumbfounded statements.

    but if dont you care to read:
    "On July 4, 1776, Congress appointed Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson and John Adams "to bring in a device for a seal for the United States of America." Franklin's proposal adapted the biblical story of the parting of the Red Sea (left). Jefferson first recommended the "Children of Israel in the Wilderness, led by a Cloud by Day, and a Pillar of Fire by night. . . ." He then embraced Franklin's proposal and rewrote it (right). Jefferson's revision of Franklin's proposal was presented by the committee to Congress on August 20. Although not accepted these drafts reveal the religious temper of the Revolutionary period. Franklin and Jefferson were among the most theologically liberal of the Founders, yet they used biblical imagery for this important task."

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    of course it does. Being with another man is a choice. So does being with an animal. Why wouldnt one be the same as another? Both are sexual preferences.
    Ummmm, this may be a reach here, but it may something to do with the fact that its ANOTHER ING SPECIES?!?!

    Animals arent protected by the Bill of Rights, sadly for you, humans are...hetero or . Sorry.

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    I support Ameachi and his book and plight wether he makes money or not. What he is doing is going to help no matter his reasons.

    I will make these observations though. I in no way support Tim and what he said but he sure does take some heat for his opinion which is basically the same opinion as 90% of the republicans in office and our very own President. Seems like everyone is Tim bashing for simply having the same opinion as many of the people that run this country. It cost him his job but these same beliefs put people in very high and important positions that greatly affect our lives.

    Typical bandwagoning America to act this way. If you don't think this Country is nearing the bottom of the toilet, wake up.
    well you know the power to do what you want is entirely in the hands of the people and many of those people have no accountability. so what has been socially unacceptable is now socially acceptable. "Toilet", yes. Some of that is due in part to being force fed diversity on every freaking level outside of race. Im just waiting for the next taboo thing to become the norm...

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    sexuality has never been taboo. See Rome.

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    Ummmm, this may be a reach here, but it may something to do with the fact that its ANOTHER ING SPECIES?!?!

    Animals arent protected by the Bill of Rights, sadly for you, humans are...hetero or . Sorry.
    its releveant because ITS A CHOICE! regardles of the detail. A CHOICE.
    And yes i was just making a point (a far reaching one at that). But you get the idea.

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    of course it does. Being with another man is a choice. So does being with an animal. Why wouldnt one be the same as another? Both are sexual preferences.
    Know how I know you're gay? You're obsessed with sexuality and you loudly proclaim your disgust with it. Be Gay. Be Proud. It's who you are. God loves you too. And btw, your at udes aren't going to endear you to the franchise that you follow. Cuban is very much supportive of Amaechi. It makes me proud to be a Mavericks fan, just as proud as when Nash wore a "Shoot for Peace" t-shirt to the All Star Game and got called out by David Robinson. How is that war working out, Mr. Big Christian?

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    sexuality has never been taboo. See Rome.
    really. well sad to say thats been taboo back to ancient times. An has NOT been acceptable. So rome? Why are you using chaos as an example...

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    Know how I know you're gay? You're obsessed with sexuality and you loudly proclaim your disgust with it. Be Gay. Be Proud. It's who you are. God loves you too. And btw, your at udes aren't going to endear you to the franchise that you follow. Cuban is very much supportive of Amaechi. It makes me proud to be a Mavericks fan, just as proud as when Nash wore a "Shoot for Peace" t-shirt to the All Star Game and got called out by David Robinson. How is that war working out, Mr. Big Christian?
    From a business standpoint yes. Who wouldnt be for a guy that stood out for what he believed in...that beign said, whats to hate about the guy. Hate the act and the belief, but not the guy. Dont hate the player, hate the game right?
    Why would i be obsessed? when im only responding to comments.

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    I don't think its taboo either, its just life, its not like he came up and put his penis in Tims ear. But at the same time we aren't stipping work from people in our front offices that have the same sentiments as Tim had.
    I'm guessing that Tim Hardaway and all of these posters obsessed with sexuality and in a rush to condemn it must have been molested at some point when they were younger by an older man. There's no other way to explain such hostility towards a group of people that haven't done -all to you and just want to live their lives in peace with the same rights and freedoms as everybody else. Because there's nothing more moronic than equating pedophilia with sexuality. Pedophilia is a sexual orientation all its own.

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    what does deism have to do with any of this? Aside from the idea that thats what you obviously believe in it seems.

    http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/religion/rel04.html

    why dont you read and educate yourself before making dumbfounded statements.

    but if dont you care to read:
    "On July 4, 1776, Congress appointed Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson and John Adams "to bring in a device for a seal for the United States of America." Franklin's proposal adapted the biblical story of the parting of the Red Sea (left). Jefferson first recommended the "Children of Israel in the Wilderness, led by a Cloud by Day, and a Pillar of Fire by night. . . ." He then embraced Franklin's proposal and rewrote it (right). Jefferson's revision of Franklin's proposal was presented by the committee to Congress on August 20. Although not accepted these drafts reveal the religious temper of the Revolutionary period. Franklin and Jefferson were among the most theologically liberal of the Founders, yet they used biblical imagery for this important task."
    Typically, I don't deal with trolls, but there is something entertainingly idiotic about you.

    I would just like to point out that you have effectively hijacked a thread that was supposed to be about Hardaway and his incredibly stupid remarks, but hey go with the flow right?

    You see, you use the same argument that other people have used, just because I said read something about Deism does not mean I profess a belief for that particular system...I'll let you try and get what I'm saying here. Nor does this funny little quote you just put up indicate that the United States was founded on Christian belief, just that they decided to use common imagery for the great seal and that there was religious at udes prevalent in the period. What a shock.

    As to the whole "dumbfounded" and educate myself statements, well...I'll help you, go to wikipedia, type the word deism into the little search engine and see what pops up.

    Look, this is the last I'm going to say on this subject, because I have more important things to do, like try and improve my fantasy basketball team. You pathetically changed argument mid-stream...going from biblical values to Christian values, to some odd religious values argument. Make up your mind.

    The United States may have been colonized by Puritans, but they were more intelligent that any of us give them credit for, read up on and focus on Deism...Deeeiiiisssmmmm.

    Now to bring this back to the original point of the thread. Hardaway was a jackass and nothing in the founding of this country, the organization of this country, so-called free speech, that icky feeling dumb s like you get when talking about gays, or just the general ness of immature, ill-read and idiotic nuts (like you and others on this thread) can excuse that. Take this tip, go to school far far away from wherever you are, because it's become obvious that your current environment has become hindrance to your mental development.

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    I don't think its taboo either, its just life, its not like he came up and put his penis in Tims ear. But at the same time we aren't stipping work from people in our front offices that have the same sentiments as Tim had.
    well of course its not taboo now. and youre insane to think that it was way back when. In overseas cultures, maybe. But that really depends on where you go. Besides, if it wasnt taboo, then why is he making such a big deal about it now?

    dig.

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    I've always heard the biggest gay bashers and phobes are actually more than likely gay themselves and are projecting their hate outwards so that they don't have to deal with their own issues. While people that are indifferent to it are secure with themselves and have nothing to hide.

    Just saying.....

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    really. well sad to say thats been taboo back to ancient times. An has NOT been acceptable. So rome? Why are you using chaos as an example...
    Ok, couldn't resist. Not been taboo, taking at udes developed during the Dark Ages and back-dating them to 'ancient times' does not a truth make. There is an incredible amount of research that demonstrates it was an accepted part of human society, up until the Dark Ages and the rise of the Roman Catholic church. Now, good bye, good luck and good night.

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    Typically, I don't deal with trolls, but there is something entertainingly idiotic about you.

    I would just like to point out that you have effectively hijacked a thread that was supposed to be about Hardaway and his incredibly stupid remarks, but hey go with the flow right?

    You see, you use the same argument that other people have used, just because I said read something about Deism does not mean I profess a belief for that particular system...I'll let you try and get what I'm saying here. Nor does this funny little quote you just put up indicate that the United States was founded on Christian belief, just that they decided to use common imagery for the great seal and that there was religious at udes prevalent in the period. What a shock.

    As to the whole "dumbfounded" and educate myself statements, well...I'll help you, go to wikipedia, type the word deism into the little search engine and see what pops up.

    Look, this is the last I'm going to say on this subject, because I have more important things to do, like try and improve my fantasy basketball team. You pathetically changed argument mid-stream...going from biblical values to Christian values, to some odd religious values argument. Make up your mind.

    The United States may have been colonized by Puritans, but they were more intelligent that any of us give them credit for, read up on and focus on Deism...Deeeiiiisssmmmm.

    Now to bring this back to the original point of the thread. Hardaway was a jackass and nothing in the founding of this country, the organization of this country, so-called free speech, that icky feeling dumb s like you get when talking about gays, or just the general ness of immature, ill-read and idiotic nuts (like you and others on this thread) can excuse that. Take this tip, go to school far far away from wherever you are, because it's become obvious that your current environment has become hindrance to your mental development.
    so what is it that youre saying throughout that entire garbled mess. You mixed in a few curse words and a few misstimed shots to make it seem like "o well he must not know what hes talking about". When you really didnt explain anything or respond to anything. Obviously you have the freedom to say what you want and its quite clear that you obviously didnt have anything else to do with you time. And yes i said Christianity because obviously there are millions of bibles, but there is only Christianity.

    Ans yes i read what tim said and i quote (before it gets misquoted again and again):
    "You know, I hate gay people, so I let it be known. I don't like gay people and I don't like to be around gay people," Hardaway said. "I'm phobic. I don't like it. It shouldn't be in the world or in the United States."

    Look i dont condone hate in any manner, and it is wrong to hate people. But its the lifestyle that hes outspoken about

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    Ok, couldn't resist. Not been taboo, taking at udes developed during the Dark Ages and back-dating them to 'ancient times' does not a truth make. There is an incredible amount of research that demonstrates it was an accepted part of human society, up until the Dark Ages and the rise of the Roman Catholic church. Now, good bye, good luck and good night.
    Seriously when and where was that...

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    Now how I know you're gay? You go on and on about how disgusting sexuality is. These guys are either playing a character and trolling to elicit indignant responses....or they doth protest too much, if you catch my drift.
    um, asshole. i'm defending amaechi here. learn to read. try hooked on phonics.

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    Ok, couldn't resist. Not been taboo, taking at udes developed during the Dark Ages and back-dating them to 'ancient times' does not a truth make. There is an incredible amount of research that demonstrates it was an accepted part of human society, up until the Dark Ages and the rise of the Roman Catholic church. Now, good bye, good luck and good night.
    Bingo. Do your research, bigot. sexuality was not only accepted, it was actually pretty widespread. But it wasnt exclusive. If we were to term it today, everyone was basically bisexual, only they didnt look at it that way.

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