That is a big factor when it was the NBA on NBC they had all the big playoff games on all weekend long and in primetime during the week. Not starting at 9:20 in the east either. NBC promoted their games through their major network shows so many more people knew when the games were going to be on. Now with TNT and ESPN the games are all over the place and it is harder to drum up fan interest like before.
If a tree fell in the woods.... No wait, if Jessica Alba was naked in the woods and you were the only one around and she wanted some action, would it make it less great because nobody else saw it?
HEEEEELLLLLL NOOOO!!!!!!
If we win it all for #4, we'll enjoy and appreciate it today... the rest of the world that doesn't get it will catch up 5-10 yrs from now and forever more when they look back and see the greatness of TD, Pop, and this franchise during this time.
To be fair, there is NO reason their system of ball can't play defense.
Steals, running back on defense... defense is not the opposite of "small ball."
The only team to eliminate a full strength Suns team is the Spurs, the best defensive team in basketball. If every team gave up because they couldn't beat the Spurs....
Why are Kings fans hanging around here? Wasn't it the Lakers that repeatedly stomped them?
It all starts with their coach. D'Antoni and his gimmick basketball might have been effective with all those soft Euro teams but the NBA's a different story.
Phoenix ranked 12th this year in opponent's EFG%. So in the last 30 years, only three teams have finished the year with a worse EFG% and won the le.
Twice it was the Bulls during their first 3-peat and the 00-01 Lakers who steamrolled through the Playoffs, losing only one game. I don't see any Jordan/Kobe/Shaq's on the Suns. Maybe Phil Jackson can get away with a bad defense once in a while and still win a championship but D'Antoni? LOL
Spurs are ranked 2nd in EFG% this year while the Cavs are ranked 3rd. Interestingly enough both teams are in the Finals.
The Suns defense is more comparable to teams like the Nets and Raptors than to the likes of the Spurs, Pistons, Mavs, Cavs, Bulls, etc.
Fair enough. I was going more from a gut reaction than any kind of logic, obviously.
Still, who would have predicted the Mavs choking to the Warriors? Stranger things have happened, and although I never said the Suns will win a le, we'll see how far they get next year. I won't be surprised if they get further than the Mavs or Nuggets...
Basicly the only casual fans that watch are fans of the team in the finals, nobody outside those cities watches which is why finals with LA or NY have the best ratings. Thing is we all know the spurs don't draw good ratings outside SA, but Duncan isn't all over ads either. Lebron is all over the place yet he isn't drawing , he's the ing "chosen-1" as it says on his back. From the looks of it, probably not.
I agree with you but a part of me is annoyed the ratings were not better because it would have given the people a chance to see one of the great teams ever play. What happened here is essentially like a movie that got good reviews and the studio spent millions promoting it, only to have the opening weekend not bring in the big box office. The media and the league hyped Lebron like crazy, creating what seemed to be good buzz only to have the ratings fall well short of expectations. No Cavs fans is going to tell me it was the Spurs fault. The average person hardly knew who else was playing, the only thing anyone talked about on every sports channel was Lebron.
..."Deadliest Catch" beat the Spurs/Jazz series a few weeks ago.
If you go to see Godzilla, and King Kong kicks his ass, you don't leave happy, and you don't tune back in the next time.
I still haven't been told why I should care what the average American television viewer thinks.
The Suns play gimmick ball? Please. The oddsmakers certainly didn't agree with that since every single one of them had the Suns favored to win the series, a series most considered the one that would decide the championship, before it began. Every single one. Every single one of them also would have had the Suns favored to beat the Spurs on the updated series moneyline price had Amare and Diaw not been suspended. Every single one.
If you want to talk about gimmick ball look no further than the Warriors. They played the same style of ball this year just like they did fifteen years ago the last time they had any kind of success. And by success, I mean a decent to good regular season record followed by a quick playoff exit since they play a style that will never be good enough to win championships.
Which ones picked the Warriors over Dallas?The Suns play gimmick ball? Please. The oddsmakers certainly didn't agree with that since every single one of them had the Suns favored to win the series, a series most considered the one that would decide the championship, before it began. Every single one. Every single one of them also would have had the Suns favored to beat the Spurs on the updated series moneyline price had Amare and Diaw not been suspended. Every single one.
Alrighty then.
Why does what an oddsmaker thinks have anything to do with who plays solid basketball? Lots of NBA head coach prospects in the oddsmaker biz?
You missed the point entirely. They never tuned in at all. Bad word of mouth did not get a chance to spread because the inital draw was not there to begin with. Which is a bit puzzling since Lebron is suppossed to be this huge mega star and they heavily built him up as the main attraction for the finals.
Good Lord. A 10.6 share for the entire series. 20 for game 1. I know nobody that watched that piece of finals in 2002 because we all knew who would win it.2002 NBC Lakers-Nets 10.6/20. Maybe, (and this is probably obvious btw), NBC does market the games alot better than ABC does.
And I'm saying that it wouldn't have mattered. You think that they would have suddenly had their eyes opened to how great the Spurs are. I say they wouldn't know great basketball if it dragged its balls across their face.
That's probably true, but California and the New York/New Jersey area are enough to command that by themselves.Good Lord. A 10.6 share for the entire series. 20 for game 1. I know nobody that watched that piece of finals in 2002 because we all knew who would win it.
Winner.No kidding.......Denver, Suns, Utah.....Cleveland....who is left?
Oddsmakers don't mean . The Suns had two years to improve from their '05 humiliation and this is the best they can do? Marbury's Suns were a of a lot more dangerous than Steve Trash's overrated And1 team.
Probably not but if the huge audience was tuning in for maybe 5 or 6 games rooting for Lebron they may have come to appreciate the Spurs style of play but it's a longshot. Hey does this mean we can now officially put Lebron's name on the list of most underappreciated athletes along with Duncan since the NBA's first attempt at marketing him in the finals has resulted in a DUD for tv ratings.
And why is everyone making this a Spurs team issue? Or even a "small market" issue? Dallas is considered a huge market and they aren't the Spurs. Miami had Shaq and the would be King if there wasn't already a King Wade, plus Riley and his slick hair and the whole "Miami scene", and their number were no better than ours.
Where's the Jay Leno skit?
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