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    so your saying that Dirk worths now????
    you are really running out of arguments.

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    I wasn't siding with chump, I was just sayin... might as well give in and go on to something else...
    that´s cool,nothing personal at all.

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    I am presenting a situation in which Dirk could indeed be regarded as worth .

    You already presented proof that Scola pulled a move -- and a player only has to do that once.

    Thanks again.

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    Actually .If it happens often enough and Dirk is one of the main reasons, it would be safe to say he's worth .
    You said it.
    And Dirk has been doing it for what?3,4 yrs?

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    Yes, I actually presented the conditions under which it could be concluded Dirk is worth . That does not necessarily mean I think those conditions have been met.

    If you'd like anything else explained to you, let me know.

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    you´re out of arguments.
    let´s just wait and see how He performs with the spurs next season.

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    Bring him in or trade him.

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    you´re out of arguments.
    What argument? I simply expressed surprise at your report that Scola is a Vince Carter-type . I never thought of him as such, but you have given me something to think about.

    let´s just wait and see how He performs with the spurs next season.
    Yeah, you'll keep your opinions about him to yourself until then, won't you?

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    at least my opinions are not ¨Dirk worths ¨
    Just bring something more productive to the table next time.

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    at least my opinions are not ¨Dirk worths ¨
    It's not my opinion either.
    Just bring something more productive to the table next time.
    You first.

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    nope,you first.

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    bring that mofo down

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    Define "productive."

    Your report about Scola's move raised a red flag with me, so I was very productive in expaining how such a move could repeat itself if Scola became a Spur.

    And your attempt to change the subject to national teams and Dirk was not productive at all. It was also a move.

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    Scola is going to be the best player to come out of the Euroleague ever next to Manobili of course

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    Scola is going to be the best player to come out of the Euroleague ever next to Manobili of course


    could def see that happen



    but the Spurs need to make it happen

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    Define "productive."

    Your report about Scola's move raised a red flag with me, so I was very productive in expaining how such a move could repeat itself if Scola became a Spur.

    And your attempt to change the subject to national teams and Dirk was not productive at all. It was also a move.
    I never changed subjets.
    you were the one that said Scola pulled a Carter
    you were the one that said Dirk worths .
    and you are the one saying Americans players aint quiters.
    ALL 3 wrong.

    sorry chump better luck next time.

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    I never changed subjets.
    Sure you did.
    you were the one that said Scola pulled a Carter
    I asked, you confirmed.
    you were the one that said Dirk worths .
    Nah.
    and you are the one saying Americans players aint quiters.
    Nah, they are quitters -- it just doesn't matter when it comes to the farce of national teams. It does matter when they quit on the teams that pay them millions of dollars to play a child's game like Vince Carter and Luis Scola did.
    sorry chump better luck next time.
    Luck has nothing to do with it.

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    Define "productive."

    Your report about Scola's move raised a red flag with me, so I was very productive in expaining how such a move could repeat itself if Scola became a Spur.

    And your attempt to change the subject to national teams and Dirk was not productive at all. It was also a move.

    Question why are the Hawks under your favorite team? Is it to mock their owner ship or did you lose a bet?

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    Question why are the Hawks under your favorite team? Is it to mock their owner ship or did you lose a bet?
    Someone has to be a fan.

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    Someone has to be a fan.

    Gotcha

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    Someone has to be a fan.
    I'm a fan of the Hawks, just not of Billy Knight. What a god-awful mess this man has created...the most mocked team in all of basketball, maybe all of sports.

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    Why people talk this much without knowing ?

    Amazing what the offseason can do.

    Scola won't pull a Vince Carter. He feels that he has given the club all he could, and he is surely frustrated, because since the season that he is TAU's main offensive weapon, they have been always very close to winning but failed for various reasons. He said he wants to play in the NBA, but if he stays in Tau, he will give 100% for the club, until next summer when his contract runs out and he can sign as a free agent. He said to the Tau board that he wants out now, because that would mean playing for the Spurs, the team that drafted him when he wasn't what he is now, and finally reaching his dream of playing in the NBA.

    Next:
    - Scola's deal with TAU was signed by his father when he was underage to sign contracts. It was offered when TAU knew Scola had some potential, but no one, even Scola himself, figured out that he was going to be drafted by an NBA team, be the best PF in Europe and Olympic Gold Medal winner.

    - Scola has just turned 27 in April.

    - The European season isn't 20 games long. Specially not for a team like TAU. They play the Spanish League regular season and playoffs, the Copa del Rey, and the Euroleague regular season and Final 4. That's about 65 games per season.

    - Splitter in not carrying TAU in anyway. He is a defensive enforcer, who crashes hard the boards, with physical presence who has to work a lot on his shot if he wants to fit in the NBA.

    - Scola "choking" isn't his fault only. He is a good sidekick, like he was in the Argentina National Team when all the FIBA zonal defenses couldn't collapse on him because of Manu, Oberto, Nocioni, etc, and the FLEX OFFENSE. All what TAU seem to know to do with Scola is pick-and-roll and post him up. In the NBA, he wouldn't have to face those collapsed zonal defenses with triple defense on him. Those who doubt his wingspan, he has faced defenders as tall as 6'11'' or even 7'0'' with TAU and Argentina and scored over them. Two words that might sound familiar: footwork and fundamentals.

    - Manu and Oberto are from a different generation of the Argentina National Team than Scola. That's why they aren't exactly "friends", but they get along very well.

    - In Spanish baskteball forums, the rumour is that TAU will accept Scola leaving this summer for a percentage of his buyout. They preffer that to see him walking away for free next year.

    I've said (punches the table -Pop style-)

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    - In Spanish baskteball forums, the rumour is that TAU will accept Scola leaving this summer for a percentage of his buyout. They preffer that to see him walking away for free next year.
    Makes sense.

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    Why people talk this much without knowing ?

    Amazing what the offseason can do.

    Scola won't pull a Vince Carter. He feels that he has given the club all he could, and he is surely frustrated, because since the season that he is TAU's main offensive weapon, they have been always very close to winning but failed for various reasons. He said he wants to play in the NBA, but if he stays in Tau, he will give 100% for the club, until next summer when his contract runs out and he can sign as a free agent. He said to the Tau board that he wants out now, because that would mean playing for the Spurs, the team that drafted him when he wasn't what he is now, and finally reaching his dream of playing in the NBA.

    Next:
    - Scola's deal with TAU was signed by his father when he was underage to sign contracts. It was offered when TAU knew Scola had some potential, but no one, even Scola himself, figured out that he was going to be drafted by an NBA team, be the best PF in Europe and Olympic Gold Medal winner.

    - Scola has just turned 27 in April.

    - The European season isn't 20 games long. Specially not for a team like TAU. They play the Spanish League regular season and playoffs, the Copa del Rey, and the Euroleague regular season and Final 4. That's about 65 games per season.

    - Splitter in not carrying TAU in anyway. He is a defensive enforcer, who crashes hard the boards, with physical presence who has to work a lot on his shot if he wants to fit in the NBA.

    - Scola "choking" isn't his fault only. He is a good sidekick, like he was in the Argentina National Team when all the FIBA zonal defenses couldn't collapse on him because of Manu, Oberto, Nocioni, etc, and the FLEX OFFENSE. All what TAU seem to know to do with Scola is pick-and-roll and post him up. In the NBA, he wouldn't have to face those collapsed zonal defenses with triple defense on him. Those who doubt his wingspan, he has faced defenders as tall as 6'11'' or even 7'0'' with TAU and Argentina and scored over them. Two words that might sound familiar: footwork and fundamentals.

    - Manu and Oberto are from a different generation of the Argentina National Team than Scola. That's why they aren't exactly "friends", but they get along very well.

    - In Spanish baskteball forums, the rumour is that TAU will accept Scola leaving this summer for a percentage of his buyout. They preffer that to see him walking away for free next year.

    I've said (punches the table -Pop style-)


    Great Synopsis of the player and the situation....well done.

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    What about PAPALOUKAS's teammate:

    SMODIS, MATJAZ
    Team: CSKA
    Height: 2.05
    Born: 1979
    Nationality: Slovenia
    Number: 8

    Min - 24:34
    Pts - 12.9
    2FG - 55.6%
    3FG - 42% 34/81 this year in Euroleague
    RPG - 3.8

    Plays both forward positions in Europe, but prefers playing small forward on offense and power forward on defense.



    Could fit to Spurs and his price is much lower than Scola's, and they are both top forwards in the league.

    MATJAZ SMODIS

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