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    i'm convinced the Spurs will do something within the next week or so after this trade. i'm really hoping so. it will be a bad move if they bring Ian over this year. and remember, Ely is gone, now Butler is gone, and with speculation that White ocule be cut in a couple of weeks, we might only have 12 players on our roster (and Spanoulis), so we could definitely have some room for a couple of other players (Melzer?)
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    We just handed Houston 2/3 of their big man rotation for a second round pick and a couple of 40 oz.ers for Holt. Damn I hate those cheap ass ers running this team.
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    Is there anyone left that could make up for this?
    If the Spurs are able to find the wing they so badly need, that would make up for it, I think. If Scola comes to the US, is he more Carlos Boozer or more Malik Rose (or worse). I'm thinking he's more the latter. While he's been successful in international compe ion and very good in Europe, the NBA histories of guys with that sort of background is sketchy at best. For instance, Jasikevicius ate the world (including Team USA) alive at the 2004 Olympics, but has done nothing in the NBA. I'm not suggesting that Scola sucks or that he'll never pan out or anything of that sort. I'm just saying that the reverential view of Scola is (perhaps) premature. I realize that NBA scouts love him and that many think he'll make a nice transition if he ever comes over, but it remains to be seen what his ultimate impact will be.

    I understand the frustration in dealing him away in this cir stance, but there's got to be much, much more to this than we're seeing. It doesn't make much sense to me that the Spurs have been so steadfastly holding out for a first rounder for Scola only to decide to jettison him along with a project big man for a 2nd rounder without something else coming.
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    i'm convinced the Spurs will do something within the next week or so after this trade. i'm really hoping so. it will be a bad move if they bring Ian over this year. and remember, Ely is gone, now Butler is gone, and with speculation that White ocule be cut in a couple of weeks, we might only have 12 players on our roster (and Spanoulis), so we could definitely have some room for a couple of other players (Melzer?)
    You don't trade Butler and Scola to sign a scrub like Melzer. Give us a break.
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    The only way this trade even remotely makes sense is if Scola is re-upping tomorrow with Tau for 5 years with no buyout possibility until the end of the contract.
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    FromWayDowntown is talking sense.
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    in might go Nancy Kerrigan on Butler's knee to make sure this bull does not happen!
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    I would be surprised to see them come out of the first round.....
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    The Rockets lacked scoring ... especially at the power forward position and behind Yao. The Spurs gave it to the Rockets for a second round pick.

    And with Yao being 8 feet tall, Scola's size won't matter.
    If they stay healthy then well, i dont even wanna think of it. Dont you think if they had Van Gundy they would have been even more formidabble. I mean, they were great defensively they were just lacking that one extra low post option - now they got two. I just dont see how a Yao/Butler/Scola combo will work with Adelmans up tempo style.
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    What people aren't understanding is that the Spurs could have traded away Beno instead and kept Scola's rights and they'd basically be in the same financial position. This trade doesn't even make sense if you look at it as just a money move. It doesn't put the Spurs below the luxury tax threshold. With the addition of Mahinmi, it opens up no roster spots.

    It does nothing over than make Holt $4-7M richer.
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    You don't trade Butler and Scola to sign a scrub like Melzer. Give us a break.
    yeah, but I was thinking that the only spots open would be 2 spots on the inactive list for now and not the regular 12 man roster. unless they gid rid of beno, which i hope they do. but either way, like i said, after this, i'm sure the spurs have something else coming up
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    With the addition of Mahinmi, it opens up no roster spots.
    In theory, the Spurs now have 2 spots available (Butler, Ely) instead of the 1 (Ely) they had before.
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    What people aren't understanding is that the Spurs could have traded away Beno instead and kept Scola's rights and they'd basically be in the same financial position. This trade doesn't even make sense if you look at it as just a money move. It doesn't put the Spurs below the luxury tax threshold. With the addition of Mahinmi, it opens up no roster spots.

    It does nothing over than make Holt $4-7M richer.
    My guess is that Scola's signing long-term with Tau. In that case, they essentially got a 2nd round pick and cash for Butler (which should please all of the fans of San Antonio Basketball, LLC or whatever's P&L statement).
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    I guess if Spanoulis would agree to play in Spain, the Spurs could at least release Spanoulis to Tau as barter...a negotiating chip to set Splitter free a year early.
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    If they stay healthy then well, i dont even wanna think of it. Dont you think if they had Van Gundy they would have been even more formidabble. I mean, they were great defensively they were just lacking that one extra low post option - now they got two. I just dont see how a Yao/Butler/Scola combo will work with Adelmans up tempo style.
    Adelman isn't only up tempo. His Portland teams had a slower pace and were great on defense. He just knows how to coach his team in a way that best brings out the team's ability.
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    In theory, the Spurs now have 2 spots available (Butler, Ely) instead of the 1 (Ely) they had before.
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    My guess is that Scola's signing long-term with Tau. In that case, they essentially got a 2nd round pick and cash for Butler (which should please all of the fans of San Antonio Basketball, LLC or whatever's P&L statement).
    I'd bet Scola is coming over this year. The Rockets now have until Monday to buy out Scola's contract ... which I'm sure they are planning to do.

    If the Rockets do sign him in the next couple days, that'd make this trade even worse.
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    this . T Park or AHF could run this team better.

    Adios.

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    My guess is that Scola's signing long-term with Tau. In that case, they essentially got a 2nd round pick and cash for Butler (which should please all of the fans of San Antonio Basketball, LLC or whatever's P&L statement).
    Surely Houston would have talked to Scola and Tau before making the trade...not that they lost anything anyway so your probably right
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    Well this is.....strange. I guess Ian is happy. I thought giving Bonner 3 years was dumb, but this is dumber. Who knows, maybe he know something about Ian that we don't. I won't question it, because we are the SPURS, the NBA CHAMPIONS, WE DON'T MAKE BAD MOVES.
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    Yeah, I don't see them keeping both White and Williams.
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    Well this is.....strange. I guess Ian is happy. I thought giving Bonner 3 years was dumb, but this is dumber. Who knows, maybe he know something about Ian that we don't. I won't question it, because we are the SPURS, the NBA CHAMPIONS, WE DON'T MAKE BAD MOVES.
    That he sucks to a degree less than we think. COULD BE
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    Looking at it salary cap wise, the Spurs would have saved more money by trading away Beno for nothing than trading away Butler and Scola to bring in Mahinmi.

    Classic.
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    Maybe Peter Holt has just exposed himself as a closet Mavs/Suns/Rockets fan -- he's tired of the Spurs winning all of these championships!!
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