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Ok Hedo.
Right you said he sucked and didn''t deserve to be on the court...guess what ..did you like losing? If you didn't then STFU and don't defend moves that contributed towards it.
Ok Hedo.
When have Devin and Beno taken "bad shots"? Given your propensity to recall the faults of players this should be easy.
Secondly, since when does missing good shots repeatedly excuse a player? If he's not hitting from the outside and someone else is (forgetting defense for the moment, something as a Barry fan you should be able to appreciate), well...
Not anymore than he has played, no. He gets a chance every game. He deserves that.Right you said he sucked and didn''t deserve to be on the court.My recommendation was for you to injure more of our opponents' key players if you wanted to maintain our inflated record.guess what ..did you like losing? If you didn't then STFU and don't defend moves that contributed towards it.
Beno really hasn't take any, but Beno's hasn't been getting much better court time in our recent return to Spurs basketball either...Devin has taken some. And he's been reamed several times by Pop for doing so.
A telling sign...I haven't seen Pop yell at Barry once this season...That tells me two things..#1.Barry is ed. #2.He hasn't taken any bad shots or made any incredibly bad passes.
And as an AJ fan, you should be able to appreciate a guy that can't hit the ing side of a barn or defend a rock...in fact you should want his jersey retired.something as a Barry fan you should be able to appreciate), well
Here we go again....
continue Chump and Whottt
When has Devin Brown taken a bad shot?
At least Jack understood how to play defense.
lmao.
This is hillarious. I guess there has to be SOMETHING to argue about at all times.
Dunno the exact moment he has taken a bad shot, but rest assured, I have seen him do it and I've seen him get yelled at for it. And I've also seen Devin make a really big TO as well...believe it or not.
Eventually. Jack also understood how to make 7 bonehead TO's in the first half of a finals game as well...Still, if you want to exchange Barry for Jack, be my guest.
So you have no examples of when Brown has taken a bad shot. Thank you.
Jack also knows how to hit shots to win a championship. Barry?
(Lest we forget who is 26 and who will be 33 in a couple of weeks.)
Keep trying to change the subject.
Well today i had some spare time and i went playing around with stats. As a rookie beno is shooting .467 from 3 point range (14 FGM 30 FGA) which is good for 5 spot overall in NBA. Furthermore i was wondering how well is he doing as backup to tony and it looked even better that i thought.
Beno Tony
PPG 5.5 PPG 13.5
RPG 0.8 RPG 3.4
APG 1.4 APG 5.6
SPG .59 SPG 1.18
BPG .05 BPG .00
FG% .484 FG% .437
FT% .762 FT% .692
3P% .467 3P% .255
MPG 13.2 MPG 33.3
Basicly beno has got better statistics than tony. His percentage is little better in FG and FT, but he is way better in 3 point play then tony. If you go further and do simple math calculation in minutes and points, you will see that beno outscores tony if both would have same minutes. Beno would have 13,875 PPG in 33.3 MPG. I think you should give him at least some slack, given this is his rookie year in one of the best team in NBA.
PS: Dont let me do some more math and calculate what stats tony should have compared to beno with his 66 mills. Can someone tell me how much beno is earning per season? That should be interesting
Damn, I didn't realize Chump was Slovenian.
Dario, I'm going to be nice to you and chalk it up to the language barrier, and since your English is probably a lot better than my Slovenian, I don't have much room to talk....
Let me just state this clearly...I in no way was insulting Beno in that post. I was making note of the fact that Beno has been yanked out of the big games and had his minutes reduced, just like Barry...by Pop...and it has hurt our offense in those games, it has hurt our team.
...and I was pointing out that Beno not getting minutes in those games probably contributed to our offensive struggles in the second half...unlike Barry though...Pop doesn't have an excuse of poor shooting for yanking Beno. Yet he still did it.
So when my erstwhile Spursbrethren were comparing Beno to Barry and using Beno as an example of Pop cutting a weak d player some slack because of his offense..., I was trying to point out that his shooting isn't making much of a difference to Pop, Beno is getting yanked almost as much as Barry...so I don't know why they think it's going to make a difference with Barry.
In summary...Pop has worried so much about D in our big games recently, that he has been hurting our offense by cutting the minutes of some of our more steady offenseive players, in those games.
And it's not hard to prove...we've either had to barely hang on for the win, or blow a lead, in most of those games.
And I'll leave you with a few stats...or give you a hint anyway...
Tell me our record in games when Beno has played less than 10 minutes...I have a feeling it is similar to our record when Barry plays less than 10 minutes...a bad one.
My point...Pop goes gets overly consumed with D in big games this season, particularly in the second half of these games, and Pop is the one to blame for our offensive struggles in these games....he's the #1 culprit.
And he always has been.
Last edited by whottt; 12-12-2004 at 08:00 PM.
Imo he's quite good in D, only mistake (major one) is his pickenroll, where he is left guarding much bigger player, but up to now duncan has made this error go away with his blocking. Decision for pop to put beno to bench in 4/4 is quite normal to me, if you consider he is just a rookie and pop got far more expirienced players then him right now in roster.
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