Brazil vs. Argentina v2 - Game Blog

[whottt]

I don't know what clutch is

Agreed...

To start with...it's not about how you start the game...KG.


To finish with...it's also not about winning non-must win games in the therefore non-clutch.



Splitter finished better....in the biggest game of his career.

[dbestpro]

Now for something that is really important. Girl's basketball.

[whottt]

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What would you rather have -- a second round pick or Scola?

Question.

And BTW...yeah it's too bad we didn't get a second round pick for Scola...

[picnroll]

That was the biggest bluff I've ever seen. Scola whined about playing in the NBA for years. I can't believe anyone actually thinks he would have signed long-term in Europe.

Scola almost certainly wanted to go somewhere where he would gets LOTS of playing tie so he could parlay the two years into a long term MLE+ contract. That wasn't going to be on the Spurs, not next year with Horry and not likely the year after with a low post game next to Duncan and less than ideal defensive agility.

There were rumors that Scola had no interest in playing for the Spurs, even rumors he gave the Spurs a list of NBA teams he was willing to play for and, from a long term financial standpoint, that rumor makes all the sense in the world.

[objective]

Who couldn't defend and rebounded less than his physicality suggested.

Sound familiar?

Looks like the Spurs have made their choice as to whom they think can best play alongside Duncan.

It's not Butler or guys who play like him. It's Bonner.

Scola can't rebound? Too bad he rebounds just as well as the bigger taller Splitter.

And my point was to illustrate some of the anti-Scola foolishness. People are still posting fake crap like Scola demanding the MLE.

And re: Bonner . . . .

There was a thread this summer post Bonner pre Scola trade, long ass thread, where I made the point of if it came down to Bonner for 3/9 or Scola 3/9-10, Scola for me everytime. That thread also included Timvp refusing to believe that Scola could be had for that contract. I stand by my declaration of choice between the two.

[whottt]

Spurs didn't want a low post scoring bigman, that can only do that one thing.

They wanted a big guy that can rebound and defend...how hard is to figure out...


Butler had the potential to be much more than just a low post scorer...


The Spurs want a defensive oriented bigman who plays in the paint with toughness and desire.


I don't know why you would conclude they wanted anything else...

Watch some Spurs games sometime...




And Scola's NBA viability is still in question...as is his ability to play under pressure.

[whottt]

Spurs also didn't want to pay a guy 3 mil a year who was only going to get 5 minutes per game under Pop.


If he doesn't defend...Pop isn't going to play him. This even if he wasn't going to take a year to learn the NBA.

He wasn't going to play ahead of Oberto.
He wasn't going to play ahead of Bonner, because Bonner comes in to stretch the D.



Spurs drafted Scola for a reason...they also let him go for a reason. He's not a mystery to them, they watched him play for a long long time.

[incansables]

Watch some Spurs games sometime...




And Scola's NBA viability is still in question...as is his ability to play under pressure.

Please,


Watch this game tonight.........

[ArgSpursFan]

Scola can't rebound? Too bad he rebounds just as well as the bigger taller Splitter.

And my point was to illustrate some of the anti-Scola foolishness. People are still posting fake crap like Scola demanding the MLE.

And re: Bonner . . . .

There was a thread this summer post Bonner pre Scola trade, long ass thread, where I made the point of if it came down to Bonner for 3/9 or Scola 3/9-10, Scola for me everytime. That thread also included Timvp refusing to believe that Scola could be had for that contract. I stand by my declaration of choice between the two.

I remember that thread.
I think the same about having Bonner for the same money we could´ve have Scola.
now ,think this for a sec:what if timmy gets injured(hopefuly it wont happen),and have to rest for 20+games,and we need a PF who has a decent low post game and can score too??
would Bonner or Horry do that in the paint?

[objective]

If he doesn't defend...Pop isn't going to play him. This even if he wasn't going to take a year to learn the NBA

lol, who does Elson defend well?

Nick Van Exel sure dended well. Brent Barry after 2005 has been stellar at defense.

[leemajors]

I remember that thread.
I think the same about having Bonner for the same money we could´ve have Scola.
now ,think this for a sec:what if timmy gets injured(hopefuly it wont happen),and have to rest for 20+games,and we need a PF who has a decent low post game and can score too??
would Bonner or Horry do that in the paint?

if timmy goes down, the spurs do too. end of story.

[ArgSpursFan]

if timmy goes down, the spurs do too. end of story.

that´s the easy answer.
think harder.

[hendrix]

And Scola's NBA viability is still in question...as is his ability to play under pressure.

Whottt... really, I agree with you on most of what you posted, but you have no base on that.
If anything I remember Scola putting in both free throws in during the semifinals of the WC'06 against Spain. To tie the game. Then the major blunder of fouling Navarro (I think) that eventually lead to a missed 3-pointer from Nocioni. Anyways, Scola plays well under pressure as far as I remember.
And I'm certain I've watched more of Scola's games than you (naturally).
You can take my word, or not. That's fine.

I don't think Scola is going to be anything close to a star. Just a good, decent NBA player. I think most argentinians agree. Nothing to be mad at.

I know that most of you are pissed with Scola and also wishing he does bad in the NBA so you don't resent later. But that's unfair.
I accept he's not great. I accept the Spurs FO did an almost humanitarian move. I'm glad they did.

[hendrix]

Spurs drafted Scola for a reason...they also let him go for a reason. He's not a mystery to them, they watched him play for a long long time.

OK, maybe that too. Whatever. Thanks Spurs FO for letting Scola in the NBA.

[ArgSpursFan]

Whottt... really, I agree with you on most of what you posted, but you have no base on that.
If anything I remember Scola putting in both free throws in during the semifinals of the WC'06 against Spain. To tie the game. Then the major blunder of fouling Navarro (I think) that eventually lead to a missed 3-pointer from Nocioni. Anyways, Scola plays well under pressure as far as I remember.
And I'm certain I've watched more of Scola's games than you (naturally).
You can take my word, or not. That's fine.

I don't think Scola is going to be anything close to a star. Just a good, decent NBA player. I think most argentinians agree. Nothing to be mad at.

I know that most of you are pissed with Scola and also wishing he does bad in the NBA so you don't resent later. But that's unfair.
I accept he's not great. I accept the Spurs FO did an almost humanitarian move. I'm glad they did.

another close game was the 1st game vs Brazil when we were down by 14.
He made the FTs and key plays to win that game in the 4rd and OT.

[ArgSpursFan]

now ,think this for a sec:what if timmy gets injured(hopefuly it wont happen),and have to rest for 20+games,and we need a PF who has a decent low post game and can score too??
would Bonner or Horry do that in the paint?

answer it wottt,chump,tpark ect...

[leemajors]

that´s the easy answer.
think harder.

tim's irreplacable. think at all.

[ArgSpursFan]

tim's irreplacable. think at all.

ok,we´ll play with 4 guys them.

[objective]

And with the Spurs 'knowing' Scola and his game . . .

LOL. Nobody's perfect. Spurs make mistakes just like anyone else. Giving him away for one year of marginal cap relief to a playoff team WAS a mistake considering his modest salary demands.

So bring on the fake arguements that always come up. Such as : "Scola wants the MLE", "Scola demands to start", "Scola can't rebound", "Scola is a terrible defender", "Scola won't sign for 3/9 you must be crazy to think that stuff", "You don't think Scola sucks that must mean you think he's Wilt Chamberscola or Hakeem Scolajuwon or Michael Scordon", "They've won 4 les, they are perfect!" blah blah blah

[picnroll]

Duncan goes down for 20 and comes in healthy for the plyoffs Spurs have a slightly lower seed and slightly higher draft pick. Duncan goes down going into the playoffs and Spurs are ed, with or without Scola.

[objective]

considering the way Scola has been knocking down midrange jumpers including the final minute of a recent game . . .

He's not just a low-post scorer.

[picnroll]

Sounds like objective is already given up on the season and Spurs have no hope since they didn't sign Scola.

[timvp]

And BTW...yeah it's too bad we didn't get a second round pick for Scola...

That question went over your head.

The question concerning the fact that other teams who have salary dumped players making less than half the MLE have given up second rounders to make it happen. Instead of giving up a second rounder, the Spurs gave up Scola.

So that's why I ask, would you rather have a second rounder or Scola.

[objective]

Sounds like objective is already given up on the season and Spurs have no hope since they didn't sign Scola.

sounds like picnroll has no factual arguements and has pulled the old "You are yelling 'Doomz!' and are declaring the sky is falling you chicken little!" card after I forgot to include it in my prior "ready made fake Scola bashing" arguement list.

Thanks for reminding me of it, I'll add that next time.

[picnroll]

Sounds like objective is only "objective" about his arguments.