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No, a medic who was a 9/11 1st responder says there was a countdown.
The Elephant In The Room:Kevin McPadden, 9/11-1st Responder
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...arch&plindex=1
Maybe he's on it, too?
Well, the NIST report begins to explain it but, you apparently refuse to listen.
They have a well-reasoned, logical working theory behind the collapse of WTC7.
I hope you'll post a still of their "visual evidence" because I don't plan to sit through Loose Change Final Cut.
No, a medic who was a 9/11 1st responder says there was a countdown.
The Elephant In The Room:Kevin McPadden, 9/11-1st Responder
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...arch&plindex=1
Maybe he's on it, too?
I already posted the interview with one of the WTC building engineers saying it was designed to withstand multiple airplane hits.
Sort of shakes up your world, don't it?
I'm still waiting for you to source this one.
So the firemen and the Red Cross were in on it too. Both organizations are chock full of demolition experts!
Why would they tell anybody at all they were going to blow up the building?
So let's review.
1) The twin towers were brought down by controlled demolition for unknown reasons. Merely crashing jumbo jets into them wasn't enough.
2) The north tower was brought down in a precision controlled demolition designed not to quickly destroy WTC 7 even though such directional demolition is possible and done on a regular basis. No, the conspirators merely wanted to start a few fires in it and gouge out holes in it.
3) More conspirators in the FDNY including the Deputy Chief, made up stories about WTC 7 making creaking noises, being deformed and saying it was about to fall.
4) Finally, after spending hours making up and gathering evidence for a cover story about the WTC 7's imminent collapse, the conspirator firemen then purposely blow that story by broadcasting their true intentions to blow up the building with preplanted explosives they set up using the demolition training they received at the firefighting academy, with the blessings of the entire American Red Cross.
It all makes perfect sense.
construction mgr of WTC
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...arch&plindex=1
I have no odea what you are talking about. Must be a different conspiracy in a parallel universe.
This is what you are saying happened. It's not my problem it looks so stupid when one puts it all together.
That is what you are saying I'm saying, but it not what I'm saying I'm saying, nor it it what I'm saying. What I have been saying I already said.
Of course you said all this. It just makes you look that stupid when it's all in one place.
That why I can't even call you a conspiracy theorist.
You have no theory.
Nothing about full-throttle or fully loaded with fuel. He appears to be strictly talking about the kinetic affect of an object the mass of a 707 crashing into the towers.
As we've been saying. That's different that a full-throttled, fully-fueled 767.
9/11 wasn't a conspiracy. It was a clean and legal military operation that achieved objectives with only a minimum of casualties and property damage.
Well, we could ask him, but he got blown up when the bombs went off.
btw
the planes that hit the towers has less than half a tank.
How many people know about this "military operation?"
I mean, we can't keep secret prisons or a ing surveillance program secret.
Have any of you taken a good look at the area of WTC-6?
Notice the distinctive shapes and sizes of WTC 1 pieces. Many of them are in and over WTC 6. There is a distinct trail in the south center of WTC 7 if the smaller WTC 1 pieces completely broken up, and the ground didn't cushion their fall like the pieces lying in WTC 6. These pieces are also clearly seen on slides 18 and 19 of the slide link furnished by Yoni.
Now I'm not sure, but isn't slide 18 at least a picture of WTC 7 after WTC 1 fell, but befor WTC 7 fell, and of the south face?
WTC 1 pieces obviously had the capability of hitting the south faces of WTC 7. In later reports, the south face damage is not stated as possible, but stated as happening. The appendix L is older (June 2004) than the slides furnished by Yoni (April 2005). They say it did happen.
Dates are important Galileo. I noticed much of your explanations are older than accepted conclusions.
One more thing. Loose Change is a total joke.
Legal?
Minimum property damage?
Minimum casualties?
You are clearly insane.
So, can thermite cut steel or can't it?
It depends on how its used. Thermite is used both as a welding process, and an incendiary in the military to destroy equipment left behind, so the enemy cannot use it. I cannot imagine it being used to cut a vertical standing beam, but I'm not qualified to state it as fact. I would say the answer is no, but there may be factors I’m unaware of. The process heats the thermite to melting, so it would slide or fall off a vertical surface. It will melt through a horizontal steel surface *IF* the mass of the steel does not dissipate too much heat, keeping it from achieving enough temperature to liquefy the metal past surface damage. In the case of steel I beams, I think the heat would dissipate before causing enough damage unless the size of the thermite was really large.
My question about the thermite theory is what did they find to be able to declare thermite was used? Thermite is a process between rust, or other iron oxides, and aluminum. Modern processes use other metallic chemicals to some degree. Thing is, fire causes the iron in the steel to oxidize. Aluminum is used for so many things these days. With the heat of fire, any aluminum in contact with the oxidized iron could create a aluminothermic reaction with enough concussive damage, like when a steel structure falls…
Signs of thermite can de found without it actually being used! Now I skipped allot of this thread, because I just wasn’t into rehashing this old debate. I never saw any evidence of thermite before. Did this thread have something irrefutable about thermite?
This should be the most convincing evidence to the conspiracy theorists. Where is any legitimate source? Like you said, nothing these days are secrets. Secrets get leaked left and right, and they are small operations. With the number of people involved in such an operation, it would be statistically next to impossible to keep secret.
...didn't the government keep stealth fighters a secret? hmmmm...
No, if you recall, there were rumors about it everywhere. Security is also kept well under programs that are on the right side of right and wrong also. Take something as evil as an act that kills thousands of innocent people... The patriots will talk...
what if.....what if those 'patriots' are black-water? or some other foreign outfit>....which do you think is more important to them? patriotism or dollars?
Now you are just being irritating, like a troll...
Blackwater may have some bad apples, but they are not anything like the media would have you believe.
maybe not black-water, but you also got costa rican mercinaries.....south African separatists....dutch fighters.....you got a whole somrgesbourge of bad guys running around in Iraq...anyone of these outfits is more than capable of running a operation like 911 - it would have been childs-play if you really think about it....
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