Yeah, and the Mavs are satisfied with coming in second place.
Dallas' three-year body of work surpasses that of Phoenix, that's all I'm saying. And Dirk has a better playoff resume than Steve Nash, the only other point I wanted to make. Squawk about Miami and Golden State all you want, but he's accomplished more than Steve Nash and Dallas has accomplished more than Phoenix. We'll see what happens this year.
Wishful thinking forum. Hearing the Suns talk about how they want to a win a le so bad is like hearing Andy Reid's sons talk about how badly they want to get off the smack, or Britney Spears talking about wanting to be a good mother. You can pay lip service to these ideals all you want, but what are you actually doing about them?
Who cares if Dallas has accomplished more than Phoenix! Neither team has won an NBA Championship. As far as Nash and Dirk's last three seasons, that's debatable. As great as Dirk is, he sure bombed in the playoffs against Golden State. Nash atleast played well in the postseason in both years that he won the MVP.Yeah, and the Mavs are satisfied with coming in second place.
Dallas' three-year body of work surpasses that of Phoenix, that's all I'm saying. And Dirk has a better playoff resume than Steve Nash, the only other point I wanted to make. Squawk about Miami and Golden State all you want, but he's accomplished more than Steve Nash and Dallas has accomplished more than Phoenix. We'll see what happens this year.
On one side of the ball
At least Dirk tries to play d
Dirk bombed against Miami too.
Basically here, you are saying that it doesn't matter where you lose... the fact is, you lost. If you don't win, then you lost, no matter what nice things you accomplished.
Now here you are saying something completely different. You are saying despite losing, achievements make a difference, and where you lost makes a difference.
Make up your ing mind.
So Nash doesn't try to play defense? Then explain why he led the Suns in charges drawn last season? Dirk is no better than Nash defensively. Although Dirk should be good defensively because he is seven feet tall and has long arms.
All I am saying is that if your team loses, you want to know that your star player showed up.
So in other words, you are admitting you contradicted yourself?
Nope, there is a difference between team accomplishments and personal accomplishments. Teams like the Spurs, Suns and Mavs expect to win the championship or else the season isn't a success. The responsibility on the star player is to play up to expectations. If the star plays poorly like Dirk did against the Warriors, than questions are asked.
You make no sense whatsoever in your argument. I'd say that winning MVP 2 straight years, and being hyped up so much year after year, but never getting to the Finals, only getting dominated by the Spurs and Mavs, should call up some questions as well.
Great, just what we need here... another idiot Suns fan that doesn't know what the he is talking about.
Nash doesn't have to apologize for anything. He never gives up and inspires other to play better. He's what the MVP award is all about.
You make no sense whatsoever in your argument. I'd say that winning MVP 2 straight years, and being hyped up so much year after year, but never getting to the Finals, only getting dominated by the Spurs and Mavs, should call up some questions as well.
Great, just what we need here... another idiot Suns fan that doesn't know what the he is talking about.
Dirk, on the other hand, pouts, finger-points and chokes EVERY YEAR. I couldn't believe that he could top his 2006 playoff performance in terms of meltdowns....but HE DID!
The only question remains...how can he top it this year? In what way could Dirk possibly disgrace himself and the Mavs any further?
In what way could Nash and the Suns get hyped up by everyone, and find a way to it all up again by going nowhere because they cant defend or rebound the ing ball?
Suns = 0 les.
Mavs = 0 les.
Now shut the up.
Is that a real question?
In what way can the Suns get over-hyped and find a way to screw it up because they don't rebound or play defense?
Do you just throw out as many words as possible and then add F-Bombs randomly?
The Suns are America's team Stretchy. The Mavs are the laughing stock...slowly becoming "The Buffalo Bills" of the NBA (although you could argue that losing to an eigth seed is even more disgraceful than losing four straight superbowls....at least the Bills lost to great teams who were just better).
You're just a nitpicky ing lawyer.
Dominated? Seriously? Let's see, the series went 6 games rather than 4, which would be a dominating sweep. The Suns outscored the Spurs 603-492 in the series. The Spurs only held the Suns under 100 points once (Game 5, without Amaré & Diaw). The Spurs largest margin of victory in the series was 8, while the Suns blew out the Spurs by 20 in Game 2. The Spurs average margin of victory was 5.75 points; whereas the Suns average margin of victory was 13. The Spurs averaged 82 points per game for the series, the Suns averaged 100.5. The Spurs thus allowed 100.5 ppg, while the Suns allowed 82 ppg.
You make no sense whatsoever in your argument. I'd say that winning MVP 2 straight years, and being hyped up so much year after year, but never getting to the Finals, only getting dominated by the Spurs and Mavs, should call up some questions as well.
Great, just what we need here... another idiot Suns fan that doesn't know what the he is talking about.
I'm not even going to get into commentary on these numbers, because they speak for themselves. So what I'm really asking is am I missing something, or are you just talking out of your ass?
Capitalize your O mother er.
seriously, did da_suns_fan & yourcheatinheart round up a whole posse from their favorite Phoenix gay bar and tell them all how fun it is to get owned constantly on SpursTalk? apparently they like getting ass- ed figuratively too.
Are you talking about the series vs. the Spurs last season?
If so, you're statistics are grossly inflated. While true that the Suns outscored the Spurs in the series, it was by a mere three points, 603-600. If you divide 600 by six games, you have an allowed average of 100 points per, not...
As for...while the Suns allowed 82 ppg.
I think you can take that last question and ask yourself the same thing...I'm not even going to get into commentary on these numbers, because they speak for themselves. So what I'm really asking is am I missing something, or are you just talking out of your ass?
You were right, I didn't total it correctly. This is how it broke down:
SUNS SPURS
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Game1: 106 111
Game2: 101 81
Game3: 101 108
Game4: 104 98
Game5: 85 88
Game6: 106 114
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TOTALS: 603 600
Which changes Spurs average to 100 ppg exactly, while the Suns averaged 100.5. Still, however, it doesn't really affect my argument since my point was that last year was hardly "domination" in any meaningful sense. I think Spurs fans just want to fondly remember it that way, but I remember that even Popovich said they didn't ever want to see the Suns again after Game 6. Hardly the kind of thing he'd say if he thought the Suns were pushovers, or that the Spurs had dominated.
well simple addition is a .
No. I'd agree that it wasn't a domination. Any Spurs fan saying such is grossly overstating as much as those stats you mentioned. It was a very, very tight series. Horry doesn't wallup Nash, or Amare and Diaw show some self-restraint and who knows. Problem is that average PPG or whatever other stat is meaningless. The only average that matters in a seven-game series is the average number of wins. In the last two Spurs/Suns series, unfortunately for Suns fans the number is 4-to-1.5...
Here's the problem with taking issue to Spurs fans rhetoric. Most times they exaggerate to pound home a point made in response to some moronic claim made by a troll. I'm not saying it was in response to something you've said. I didn't read the last three pages in this thread. However, it's an offensive defense that's employed when their les are attacked, something that happens daily thanks to the BS of da_suns_fan__ and yourcheatinheart. So, you can either help the problem or continue it. If you're smart enough to identify Spurs fan hyperbole, and smart enough to know that statistics could help you back up a claim contrary, then perhaps, and I pray, that you're smart enough to know that hitching your wagons to Suns trolls isn't the best way to be taken seriously, if that's even your intentions at all.
I don't know, but what I hate as much as the Suns losing to the Spurs is seeing trolls make the team I bleed for a laughing stock on these boards. There have been a number of very good Suns fans on this forum over the years, a good half dozen no longer even post, maybe even because of the BS from Suns trolls.
Who ever said that the Suns are America's team?
You???
Oh wait... you were serious...
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