Does Ron Paul have a chance?

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Aside from watching it on TV, you have no clue what goes on outside the US.

I didn't realize señor smeagol possessed omniscience, I mean, here I am, a normal human being, naturally not enough money to travel, and naturally not enough godlike powers to travel everywhere in a very short amount of time. Here I am, trying to argue with you. My bad. I stand owned. BTW, the only things I ever watch on tv are spurs and longhorns games.

[Whisky Dog]

I'd love to be able to temporarily do a "Sliding Doors" type thing where I could sit back and view life as it would currently be if Gore had won the election in 2000 or even Ketchupman in 2004. I don't know if things would be better or worse for me personally, but I'm pretty sure they would be different on a large scale in some very noticeable ways. In that sense, it does stand to reason that the election of the executive leader would have an impact on our society for better or worse. We just don't have any clue which is better and which is worse when we decide.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...n_and_programs

Give me a ing break manny, how would a free trade agreement with Jordan affect my tvnews watching every day life?



On a serious note, smeagol's mayweather-esque evasion and dancing around on this subject has to be considered classic material. I mean really. Who gives a flying what the common argnetinian thinks about our country? I don't. But, to reiterate, its when a foreigner displays the s of the earth trait of pompousness as a result of waltzing into this country, taking advantage of its opportunities, then speaking completely out of his or her ass--that i do care about. Because he's a chief, numero uno reason I'm an isolationist. Not because I don't think foreigners deserve an opinion to criticize my country, but smeagol is fitting the stereotypical bill of a foreigner who talks and talks , hypocritically makes his life energy off of an en y he sees as wrong, waltzes back to his precious homeland, then proceeds to talk to which he is incapable of providing a logical basis for.

Its madness. Imagine someone twice as stupid as me reading smeagols posts, or even worse, talking in person to someone who sees the world like smeagol.

If you imagine this happening, you then can understand from where modern day American bigotry towards other nations arises.

I may be juvenile, talk , whatever, but when someone nails me, logically and based on facts, I back down, eat crow, and give prahps where they are due. Smeagol is a run of the mill POS, who not only is giving Argentinians a bad name on this board, but probably gave them a bad name while he was here making his bread.

Make no bones about it. If argentina is full of smeagols it deserves to be nuked on principle alone.

[Kori Ellis]

Has Fox News Excluded Ron Paul?
December 28, 2007 10:39 pm EST

ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA – According to the New Hampshire State Republican Party and an Associated Press report, Republican presidential candidate and Texas Congressman Ron Paul will be excluded from an upcoming forum of Republican candidates to be broadcast by Fox News on January 6, 2008.

“Given Ron Paul’s support in New Hampshire and his recent historic fundraising success, it is outrageous that Dr. Paul would be excluded,” said Ron Paul 2008 campaign chairman Kent Snyder. “Dr. Paul has consistently polled higher in New Hampshire than some of the other candidates who have been invited.”

Snyder continued, “Paul supporters should know that we are continuing to make inquiries with Fox News as to why they have apparently excluded Dr. Paul from this event.”


http://www.ronpaul2008.com/press-rel...luded-ron-paul

[mikejones99]

him he has as much chance as Jamal tinsley does of winning the MVP.

[SouthernFried]

At least he's not running as a 3rd Party candidate, ala Ross Perot.

Ron Paul cannot garner broad appeal. And that folks, is half of what being the President is all about. Lament it all you want.

Until libertarians learn how to do that, they are irrelevant also. I would be libertarian, if I had any beleif that they knew how to get votes. You can be idealistic all you want...you can even be right. But, if you can't get people to follow you, who cares?

"I do!!!"

Whaaateevaaah, now go outside and play.

[whottt]

At least he's not running as a 3rd Party candidate, ala Ross Perot.

Ron Paul cannot garner broad appeal. And that folks, is half of what being the President is all about. Lament it all you want.

Until libertarians learn how to do that, they are irrelevant also. I would be libertarian, if I had any beleif that they knew how to get votes. You can be idealistic all you want...you can even be right. But, if you can't get people to follow you, who cares?

"I do!!!"

Whaaateevaaah, now go outside and play.

I've been saying that for years...


I don't really have much problem with Libertarians...except that they basically choose to be irrelevant.


Although I just wonder why a guy doesn't become affiliated and known through one of the major 2 parties, perhaps via a Presidential Bid and then go indendent...I think a successful Presidential Bid could possibly be pulled off in that case.....I think that's their best chance. Lots of "best candidate voters" and the Libertarians tend to have platforms that would appeal to voters in both parties.


Only 2 major parties...historically it's kept both parties pretty moderate...although that's beginning to change now.

[Holt's Cat]

Has Fox News Excluded Ron Paul?
December 28, 2007 10:39 pm EST

ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA – According to the New Hampshire State Republican Party and an Associated Press report, Republican presidential candidate and Texas Congressman Ron Paul will be excluded from an upcoming forum of Republican candidates to be broadcast by Fox News on January 6, 2008.

“Given Ron Paul’s support in New Hampshire and his recent historic fundraising success, it is outrageous that Dr. Paul would be excluded,” said Ron Paul 2008 campaign chairman Kent Snyder. “Dr. Paul has consistently polled higher in New Hampshire than some of the other candidates who have been invited.”

Snyder continued, “Paul supporters should know that we are continuing to make inquiries with Fox News as to why they have apparently excluded Dr. Paul from this event.”


http://www.ronpaul2008.com/press-rel...luded-ron-paul

No surprise. He went too far off script.

[smeagol]

I cannot speak for anyone else. I didn't blast you until you went on a posting rampage defending your very stupid original statement. I'm not even sure who else has agreed with you in this thread but I can tell you your posts outnumber them by a 10:1 margin. I don't care if you're from the moon, your assertion is simply completely wrong.

First it was that we shouldn't care because things don't change much. Then it was because we don't change as much as Argentina and we don't know how good we have it. Now we shouldn't care because changes take time to materialize. You're dancing around like a monkey while someone plays a damn tune.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...n_and_programs

Thats a list of legislation passed and vetoed by Bush and his administration. I could also list the judgments handed down by every Bush appointed federal judge. I could also point you to the amount of debt racked up by Bush in Iraq.

Those are all actions that have effects - and very real affects - on American lives EACH AND EVERY DAY. You may ignore them, you may not notice them, you may not understand them, or you simply may be ignorant of their effects but that does not make their effects any less present and any less real.

If there is a reason you got blasted in this thread, Smeagol, it is because of the incredibly ignorant and blatantly incorrect stance you took and the way you defended it. When a person outside of the United States tells people inside the United States that they should not care about their elections because they don't change their lives while those US citizens are feeling the changes it is obviously going to piss people off. When you further compound it by trying to say you were giving a compliment and continue to dig your hole deeper don't be surprised if people get further annoyed and you get blasted.

Don't make this out to be Americans hating foreigner bull . YOU were the one who tried to lecture us on "how good we had it" and tried to tell us what we should concern ourselves with while advocating we just be apathetic about it.

You win Manny.

If either Mondale, Dukakis, Dole, Gore or Kerry had won the election, Americans everyday life would be very different.

[smeagol]

I didn't realize señor smeagol possessed omniscience

Lot's of things you don't know about me.

In this case, it looks like I was right.

I mean, here I am, a normal human being, naturally not enough money to travel,

Norman human beings in the US have enough money to travel. You don't seem to be normal at all.

and naturally not enough godlike powers to travel everywhere in a very short amount of time.

What does this even mean?

BTW, the only things I ever watch on tv are spurs and longhorns games.

It shows in the level of ignorance of your posts.

[smeagol]

Give me a ing break manny, how would a free trade agreement with Jordan affect my tvnews watching every day life?

Or one with Peru, or one with Chile . . .

On a serious note, smeagol's mayweather-esque evasion and dancing around on this subject has to be considered classic material.

It should. Considering you are also the all powerfull one who decides what is and what is not classic.

I mean really. Who gives a flying what the common argnetinian thinks about our country?

Here comes the bigotry once again.

I don't.

Wether you like it or not, I'm not the common Argentinean. I have lived enough time in the US to opine on many aspects of your country. I have a green card and it is a matter of time until I become a citizen.

And that must kill you inside, asshole.

But, to reiterate, its when a foreigner displays the s of the earth trait of pompousness as a result of waltzing into this country, taking advantage of its opportunities,

Again, you know about me and my life, and you talk out of you arse once again.

I was hired by an AMERICAN bank, which transfered me from Argentina to the US because they could not find Americans who could do my job as well as I did it.

I did not take advantage of anybody. The bank (Chase Manhattan Bank) made a lot of money out of me. And they paid me a market salary in return. And I paid taxes like anybody who lives in America. Lots of taxes.

So shut the up, for once in your sorry life.

Because he's a chief, numero uno reason I'm an isolationist.

You are an isolasionist? Another reason why cbf is a s bag. The box is checked.

Not because I don't think foreigners deserve an opinion to criticize my country

Oh yes you do, dirtbag, yes you do.

but smeagol is fitting the stereotypical bill of a foreigner who talks and talks ,

Very soon I will no longer be a foreigner, s bag.

hypocritically makes his life energy off of an en y he sees as wrong,

Again, link to where I criticize the US unfairly. And if you are of the opinion that saying that no major changes occur to Americana is Bush jr, Bush sr, or Clinton rule, is a criticism, then you are an idiot.

Imagine someone twice as stupid as me

Hard to imagine.

If you imagine this happening, you then can understand from where modern day American bigotry towards other nations arises.

I can understand very well where bigotry towards other nations arises. From s bag islasionsts such as you.

I may be juvenile, talk , whatever, but when someone nails me, logically and based on facts, I back down, eat crow, and give prahps where they are due.

Same here. And manny knows it. He actually gave me props when I admitted I was wrong.

I have never seen you admit you were wrong on anything, bigot.

Smeagol is a run of the mill POS, who not only is giving Argentinians a bad name on this board, but probably gave them a bad name while he was here making his bread.

Go off. You have insulted my country 10 times more than I have yours.

Seriously, you are a lowlife. A true disgrace to Americans.

Make no bones about it. If argentina is full of smeagols it deserves to be nuked on principle alone.

There you go again. Try and find a post of mine where I say anything as remotely insulting as this, towards America or Americans. I have said insulting things about posters such as yourself, because they deserve to be insulted.

[boutons_]

NewsCORP interferes in the election against Paul:

http://www.boston.com/news/local/pol...ox_news_i.html


Only the news that fits Rupert's agenda.

[MannyIsGod]

There you go Joe. Thats why we think your beloved debates are a ing joke.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Smeagol i've admitted i've been wrong a bunch of times, to extra stout, manny, chumpdumper, even Yonivore when he was The Resurrected One. You're like an argentina spurs forum poster who only pays attention to posts about manu.

[Ignignokt]

i didn't take smecal's statement as offensive. I don't think he was talking down america either.

[smeagol]

Smeagol i've admitted i've been wrong a bunch of times, to extra stout, manny, chumpdumper, even Yonivore when he was The Resurrected One. You're like an argentina spurs forum poster who only pays attention to posts about manu.

That is why half of my posts are in the political forum.

Good job, but try harder the next time.

[smeagol]

i didn't take smecal's statement as offensive. I don't think he was talking down america either.

Thanks gtown

[Ignignokt]

I wonder if Lamarcus Bryant gets mad at illegals for protesting against America and criticizing our govt.

But, then doing so would make me more of a mexican than the CBF pharmacy.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Making fun of you using brown dye to turn your skin brown after being born into this world a neocon naturally implied you turned yourself into an american of mexican descent. You're not a foreigner and I've never considered your takes to be baseless like smeagols.

I get mad at both sides when they base their views on no reality and overall I am against immigration so there.

[smeagol]

You're not a foreigner and I've never considered your takes to be baseless like smeagols.

Cause if you say they are baseless, there is no way around it, knowing that you are the authority on all topics discussed on this board.

I get mad at both sides when they base their views on no reality and overall I am against immigration so there.

No need to emphasize it. We all know you are a disgusting bigot.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Sorry señor smeagol! You stay in your country, and I'll stay in mine, and we'll both be happy.

[BradLohaus]

NewsCORP interferes in the election against Paul:

http://www.boston.com/news/local/pol...ox_news_i.html


Only the news that fits Rupert's agenda.

I second Paul on this statement:

"They are scared of me and don't want my message to get out, but it will," Paul said in an interview at a diner here. "They are propagandists for this war and I challenge them on the notion that they are conservative."

Whatever Fox News is, it isn't conservative.

[smeagol]

Sorry señor smeagol! You stay in your country, and I'll stay in mine, and we'll both be happy.

I can't. My country has been nuked by yours, Mr cbf (afer you advocated it). I have nowhere to go. I guess I will become a citizen of your country now.

Cheers.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

touché señor smegmal!

[Holt's Cat]

I second Paul on this statement:

"They are scared of me and don't want my message to get out, but it will," Paul said in an interview at a diner here. "They are propagandists for this war and I challenge them on the notion that they are conservative."

Whatever Fox News is, it isn't conservative.

I'm just glad we have campaign finance laws that prevent large commercial interests from having an undue influence in our politics.

Anyways, we can't have anyone with a divergent view at a presidential debate. That is neither the time nor place.