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    We need like a FAQ for Ghost so that new posters can understand his posts in context, so that he doesn't seem like a total re .

    1. What makes Ghost post such whiny ing posts every February?


    Casper is an East Coast sports fan. Mid-season trades are a way of life for such fans. If a team in your favorite team's division makes a big move (let's say, the Phillies) then your team must make an even bigger move. Not that it matters that your team is ahead of them in the standings or that the Phillies haven't won jack in the postseason in forever, they must be topped because they are the Phillies and they are dominating the NYC area sports news cycle with their big splashy trade. Having the stones to stand pat is seen as foolish since every armchair GM and their dog now knows that the Phillies are going to win it all since they got player X and player X used to be awesome 5 years ago before the knee injury and putting on 50 pounds. It's as much an ego thing, something to brag about to your drinking buddies that your favorite team got so and so and they are going to win it all this year. Granted, that's baseball, but you get the idea.

    2. Why is Ghost so miserable?


    Part of it has to do with item #1, but some of it is purely psychological. East Coast sports fans must be miserable. If your favorite team wins a championship, well, WHY HAVEN"T THEY WON THE LAST ING TEN CHAMPIONSHIPS?!! You knew how they could do it, but those ING BUMS wouldn't pull the trigger. Just wait, the Giants are the toast of NYC last month, but that will all be forgotten after a couple of early season losses next season.

    3. Why doesn't Ghost ease his pain with the drink, tobacco, sex, WWF, cannabis, and/or yoga?

    He's tried.

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    although Bowen and Oberto can be cheated off of.

    They're not good on offense.
    Ask the Suns last year how that worked out for em.

    It lost them the series leaving Bowen and Oberto open.

    Leaving Oberto open also killed the Cavaliers and the Jazz.

    Do you need a DVD to rewatch this so you can get reminded of it? Or did you just not watch all together.

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    You people keep your heads in the sand. Hopefully you'll suffocate.

    I still think the Spurs have a chance, and if you've read this thread, I've given a much more reality-based case as to why than the typical crap spewed by the homers.

    Your will as a Spurs fan won't get it done.

    You guys think Bowen is doing a good job on Kobe when he still gets 30. Now Kobe doesn't have to shoot as much and can be selective in shots. That means better shots.

    Gasol is good, by the way. And Bynum was having a breakout season.

    But no worries.

    We got Oberto.

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    You guys think Bowen is doing a good job on Kobe when he still gets 30
    When he does it shooting 45 shots and the Spurs win by 10, yeah I'd say thats a good job.

    Keep up with your 50 year old logic though.

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    When he does it shooting 45 shots and the Spurs win by 10, yeah I'd say thats a good job.

    Keep up with your 50 year old logic though.
    That was before he had options like Bynum and Gasol, T ard.

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    Kobe became less of a ball hog? When did he become a team player?

    Ghost idiot.

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    Kobe became less of a ball hog? When did he become a team player?

    Ghost idiot.
    Do you follow the NBA or just train your eyes on the cotton candy vendor at Spurs home games?

    Kobe didn't have a "team" in the past, hence him wanting out.

    Since then, Bynum has emerged and Gasol is on board.

    Why would he jack up all those shots when he can get his teammates involved (a trait he's developed all season)?

    Figure it out.

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    Do you follow the NBA or just train your eyes on the cotton candy vendor at Spurs home games?
    Do you? Or are your eyes fixated still on your Gary Payton blow up doll?

    Kobe Bryant EVEN WITH his improved team is still lulling back into 1 on 1 Kobe from time to time. hes already had a couple games this year where he pouted and only shot 8 times.

    Go look it up.

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    Do you? Or are your eyes fixated still on your Gary Payton blow up doll?

    Kobe Bryant EVEN WITH his improved team is still lulling back into 1 on 1 Kobe from time to time. hes already had a couple games this year where he pouted and only shot 8 times.

    Go look it up.
    WTF?

    Reality-based posts, please.

    Either he is jacking up shots or not.

    Show me where he's been pouty since the trade or shooting for a very low % or the Lakers have been losing as a result.

    I'll wait.

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    WTF?

    Reality-based posts, please.

    Either he is jacking up shots or not.

    Show me where he's been pouty since the trade or shooting for a very low % or the Lakers have been losing as a result.

    I'll wait.



    Dude beginning of Feb late January Jackson dropped "He needs to move the ball around" as he always does and Kobe went into pouty mode.

    Of course hes gonna be a team player he just got Pau, but wait till the first time they play someone worth a and Pau shrivels up like a spanish beno Udrih and you will see how much of a ball hog Kobe once again becomes.

    Mark it down.

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    Dude beginning of Feb late January Jackson dropped "He needs to move the ball around" as he always does and Kobe went into pouty mode.

    Of course hes gonna be a team player he just got Pau, but wait till the first time they play someone worth a and Pau shrivels up like a spanish beno Udrih and you will see how much of a ball hog Kobe once again becomes.

    Mark it down.
    WTF do you think I am saying?

    Kobe doesn't have to shoot as much now after the trade, re .

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    He doesn't when pau is playing well.

    When he goes into his wuss s , wich is what he would do when Duncan guards him, whos gonna shoot?

    Jordan Farmar? Luke Walton?

    Yeah ok.

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    He doesn't when pau is playing well.

    When he goes into his wuss s , wich is what he would do when Duncan guards him, whos gonna shoot?

    Jordan Farmar? Luke Walton?

    Yeah ok.
    Wake me up when Gasol starts to struggle.

    They also got that Bynum guy coming back.


    Yawn.

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    Wake me up when Gasol starts to struggle.

    They also got that Bynum guy coming back.


    Yawn.

    Pay attention to the teams Gasol has gone against.

    Not a big man defender amongst the bunch genius.

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    You guys think Bowen is doing a good job on Kobe when he still gets 30. Now Kobe doesn't have to shoot as much and can be selective in shots. That means better shots.
    You honestly don't understand this? There's only so many shots available in a game. Let's say 75 as an out-of-the-blue number. If Kobe takes 30 shots to get 30 points, that leaves 45 shots for the other players. If he gets 30 points on 15 shots, that leaves 60 shots for other players.

    That's how that works. A low percentage 30 points is worse for the Lakers than him only getting 20 points.

    That's actually the Spurs gameplan against the Lakers. They want to force Kobe to beat them and keep him to a low pts/shot number with only 1 on 1 with Bowen. If his pts/shot is high, the Spurs start reacting to him and open up the rest of his team, if it's not, they clamp down and force him to keep shooting. Kobe getting 30 on 30 means the Spurs plan is working perfectly and his total points is nearly irrelevant.

    But you are right, in that having other capable offensive weapons in Gasol and Bynum (who has had solid offensive games against the Spurs) means Kobe won't have to shoot as much. He should become more efficient, but lower scoring, which is good for the Lakers.

    But seriously, if you can't see how pts/shot can affect the outcome of the game, study.

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    Pay attention to the teams Gasol has gone against.

    Not a big man defender amongst the bunch genius.
    Yea that Dwight Howard guy is such a pussy.

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    You honestly don't understand this? There's only so many shots available in a game. Let's say 75 as an out-of-the-blue number. If Kobe takes 30 shots to get 30 points, that leaves 45 shots for the other players. If he gets 30 points on 15 shots, that leaves 60 shots for other players.

    That's how that works. A low percentage 30 points is worse for the Lakers than him only getting 20 points.

    That's actually the Spurs gameplan against the Lakers. They want to force Kobe to beat them and keep him to a low pts/shot number with only 1 on 1 with Bowen. If his pts/shot is high, the Spurs start reacting to him and open up the rest of his team, if it's not, they clamp down and force him to keep shooting. Kobe getting 30 on 30 means the Spurs plan is working perfectly and his total points is nearly irrelevant.

    But you are right, in that having other capable offensive weapons in Gasol and Bynum (who has had solid offensive games against the Spurs) means Kobe won't have to shoot as much. He should become more efficient, but lower scoring, which is good for the Lakers.

    But seriously, if you can't see how pts/shot can affect the outcome of the game, study.
    The problem the Lakers are gonna have when Bynum gets back is having too many options on offense.

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    The problem the Lakers are gonna have when Bynum gets back is having too many options on offense.
    Not even close. The Lakers have 3 options on offense, just like they did before. The big difference is option#3 is better now. Phil Jackson doesn't really allow there to be more than 3 options. The other 2 people aren't really options, just trash pickup and desperation.

    More likely than not, Bynum will get neglected now and Gasol and Kobe will be the only ones with double digit shot attempts on a regular basis.

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    If the Spurs stand pat and can't get frontcourt help, can you help me figure out how we'll match up with:

    Phoenix*
    C - S. O'Neal MANU
    PF - A. Stoudamire MANU


    Los Angeles**
    C - Bynum MANU
    PF - P. Gasol MANU



    Other players can't be left unchecked if you are thinking double teams:
    * S. Nash, R. Bell, G. Hill ALL MANU
    ** K. Bryant, L. Odom, D. Fisher ALL MANU


    Now do you understand why Pop is p1ssed about the Gasol trade and why Kerr signed off on Shaq to Phoenix?


    Question.
    ANSWER: MANU

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    Not even close. The Lakers have 3 options on offense, just like they did before. The big difference is option#3 is better now. Phil Jackson doesn't really allow there to be more than 3 options. The other 2 people aren't really options, just trash pickup and desperation.

    More likely than not, Bynum will get neglected now and Gasol and Kobe will be the only ones with double digit shot attempts on a regular basis.
    Wow talk about haterism. First of all the triangle is an equal-opportunity offense meaning there are no set plays run for anybody. Everyone is an option, and when Bynum gets back that will truly be the case. Odom, Fisher, Bryant, Gasol, and Bynum are all capable offensive players that can't be left alone. Your two "trash" options are Fisher and Odom, Fisher will kill you from 3pt land if you leave him open and if you give Odom an open lane to the basket he will make you pay. We are not the Spurs who start Oberto and Bowen, two players who are truly inept offensively.

    As far as Gasol getting more touches than Bynum, that just makes sense. He is the better developed post player and that is what we brought him here for. Bynum can concentrate on doing what he does best, rebounding/dunks/alley oops/ and just wreaking havoc in the paint. We need Bynum more for his defense than his offense. Considering we are the #3 offense in the NBA outside of PHX and GSW I don't think this will be an issue, especially considering how our PPG hasn't really dropped since Bynum went down.

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    Wow talk about haterism. First of all the triangle is an equal-opportunity offense meaning there are no set plays run for anybody. Everyone is an option, and when Bynum gets back that will truly be the case. Odom, Fisher, Bryant, Gasol, and Bynum are all capable offensive players that can't be left alone. Your two "trash" options are Fisher and Odom, Fisher will kill you from 3pt land if you leave him open and if you give Odom an open lane to the basket he will make you pay. We are not the Spurs who start Oberto and Bowen, two players who are truly inept offensively.

    As far as Gasol getting more touches than Bynum, that just makes sense. He is the better developed post player and that is what we brought him here for. Bynum can concentrate on doing what he does best, rebounding/dunks/alley oops/ and just wreaking havoc in the paint. We need Bynum more for his defense than his offense. Considering we are the #3 offense in the NBA outside of PHX and GSW I don't think this will be an issue, especially considering how our PPG hasn't really dropped since Bynum went down.
    Not really. Phil Jackson's offenses have always been biased to 2 players. First it was Jordan and Pippen, then Shaq and Kobe, etc. Usually a third person chips in healthily, and that player might change on a night to night basis. Kobe will take 20-30% of the shots, Gasol 20-25%, Bynum probably 10-15%, leaving the rest with a small percentage each.

    Everybody but Kobe and Gasol, and occassionally Bynum, are trash players in the sense that they aren't getting many shots unless the defense falls apart. I would expect Odom to move to the bench when Bynum comes back, which will probably be good for him.

    My point wasn't that Bynum was going to get less touches than Gasol, but that his role in the offense would be less (he's less of an option now).

    PS. Oberto is hardly inept on offense. He sets a good pick, has a pretty good short jumper and is excellent at cutting to the rim. Fisher doesn't do much more than Bowen on offense any more (park at the three point line and wait for a swing pass).

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    you know what
    when tp was healthy the o looked fine
    the o will be fine when tp is healthy PERIOD

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    __ducks sucks__

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    "But you are right, in that having other capable offensive weapons in Gasol and Bynum (who has had solid offensive games against the Spurs) means Kobe won't have to shoot as much. He should become more efficient, but lower scoring, which is good for the Lakers." -- fyatuck


    Thank you.

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    It looks like Ghost Writer here is the only one that's not drinking the silver and black Kool-Aid.

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