Well its worth it to them. Thats their choice and they understand the sacrifce. Most people getting involved in altercations think of the worst as an afterthougth if at all. Its not up front and center like it is for a firefighter going to a fire. Not to mention a complete lack of training.
Then don't ing say your initial reaction was based on what was being reported. Because what was being reported was she intervened in an argument between a man and his wife.
You decided to totally conger up a scenario where the shooter was the victim.
Nothing seems to be confirmed one way or the other.
Probably never will be. Sounds to me more and more like she was ambushed and obviously thats completely different than what most of us are arguing over. Although I don't think some see that.
Pay attention my initial reaction was she shouldn't have played peace keeper.
I congered up the attack notion as something to debate. You have your lines crossed and aren't understanding what I'm trying to say. Stop mixing up two different points.
You agreed to this (B2B).So she's supposed to give up her life, her marriage, all the good she would have done for people for the CHANCE that some kids she doesn't even know don't grow up in foster care?
Cops, firemen, and soldiers all do it, just like she did (even though she probably thought otherwise at the time)
Someone walking up to stop a fight of course doesn't know the consequences of their actions whether they be null or their life ending but unless the fight is occurring between two people with guns and knives, that probably never crosses their mind.
If we lived in that "what could happen?" state of mind, people would be paralyzed to the world. You wouldn't go get gas because "what if I get hit by a car." People wouldn't fire anyone because "what if that person comes back with a gun." People would live their life because they'd worry about the worst case.
You obviously need to pay attention to your own bull .
After your little race comment your next post contained this:
You're so ing pathetic.Maybe she attacked him and he defended himself with his legal firearm. Thank god we let people own and carry guns. I know I've gotten into fights with strangers before when people try to tell me to stop yelling and belittling my wife in public.
There is always two sides
Although I see your train of thought I don't compare breaking up a fight to "what if I get hit by a car" while driving that is. Now comparing breaking up a fight to running across a busy highway would be more like it. There have been more than one example in this thread displaying why you shouldn't get in other peoples . You could die be injured, hurt and so forth. I for one know that such actions can come with a price. I chose to mind my own business.
Funny you should mention the firing thing. My boss refused to fire our service writer because he fears him. Sad but true. I still can't compare fire a bad worker to getting involved in a domestic dispute.
Fireman, police officers, coastguards all risk their lives by their own choice and its not based on lack of better judgement but hopefully more because they felt it was their calling in life to do so. In any event its a choice and they're trained to do it and they want to do it.
I'm really ing sorry you thought that comment wasn't just dripping with sarcasm. After the obsurd reaction I still felt the thought was open for interpretation and debate. I'm better than I thought if you actually believe I was taking a jab at her. Wake up guy.
blizzOWN3D
Sarcasm? Please, there was no sarcasm in that lame ass post. Well, now there is because your ass had been called out so many times.
Nancy Grace will sort this all out and reveal the truth.
Fixation is cited in doctor's slaying
Web Posted: 04/06/2008 12:01 AM CDT
Brian Chasnoff and Robert Crowe
Express-News
It started with love letters from an obsessed man and ended abruptly in blood.
Timothy McCloskey first met Dr. Julie Abbott at a Christmas party last year thrown by iMED Internal Medicine, a North Side practice. His wife was working there as a receptionist, and Abbott, an internist, was treating her.
Soon, McCloskey began sending Abbott flowers and letters in which he professed his desire for the married physician. Abbott grew increasingly uneasy about the persistent and unwanted advances, police spokesman Gabe Trevino said Saturday.
Abbott and others at iMED were in the process last week of determining how to deal with McCloskey's fixation. Known for her compassion, Abbott wanted to resolve the situation in a way that would not embarrass McCloskey or his wife.
McCloskey felt spurned, police said, and Friday afternoon the situation escalated into tragedy.
Abbott, 47, had left work early and gotten into her car to go home when McCloskey confronted her in the parking lot behind her office in the 200 block of Sonterra Boulevard, Trevino said. Troubled by the encounter, she got out and walked toward her office.
When police arrived, McCloskey was standing over Abbott's body, holding a handgun. The doctor had been shot three times — in the shoulder, abdomen and face.
She died soon after.
The responding officer, Michael Blanquiz, ordered McCloskey to drop the handgun. When McCloskey refused and advanced toward Blanquiz, the officer fired his gun six times and struck McCloskey four times — in the legs, the hand and the abdomen, Trevino said.
McCloskey, 52, was in critical condition Saturday at University Hospital, where he was charged by proxy with murder and attempted capital murder.
McCloskey's wife was inside the iMED building at the time of the shooting. It was unclear Saturday whether McCloskey was lying in wait for Abbott before he shot her, police said.
Little else is known about Timothy McCloskey. His wife, Ellen, who has been a receptionist in Abbott's office for about six years, told police Friday that McCloskey has struggled with mental illness.
A woman who answered a phone call to Ellen McCloskey's residence Saturday hung up, and no one answered knocks to her door.
A San Antonio private investigator who is familiar with stalking cases said the behavior attributed to McCloskey is different from most stalkers.
"That's such an overt kind of stalking," Mike Kaliski said. "That's an unusual kind. ... They're not upfront like that (about stating their infatuation. And they certainly aren't going to resort to murder for being rejected."
Two police sources and two people with ties to the iMED practice said McCloskey's infatuation with Abbott was so awkward that it had become an issue in the office. Abbott considered the option of transferring McCloskey's wife to another doctor, police said.
Abbott and her husband had planned to take a vacation this weekend because the unwanted attention was stressing them out.
Abbott's husband declined to comment for this report.
A memorial is planned for 11 a.m. Monday at Community Bible Church at 2477 North Loop 1604 East, where Abbott was an active member.
The church's pastor, Robert Emmitt, said many people close to her were unaware of the situation with McCloskey.
Wow if thats not the most pussy thing I've ever read on here then I'm not sure what is.
Does SAPD not understand the concept of center mass?
So all the debate over intervening in a domestic dispute was baseless, as that was not what even happened. So sad... I had a stalker once- long before they were called stalkers.
Understanding and performing are two different things...
If it was a .45, all he needed was the one abdomen shot.
why die over some dumb you dont care about?
You're a Howler monkey. Go find your troop.
STFU, asshole! He had a crush on her ass! He could not take that she would not reciprocate. Confronted her in the parking lot. His wife was not even there. She verbally refuted her feelings for him, then he shot her in the face, shoulder, and abdomen, and she fricking died shortly thereafter.
So r u happy pappy?
I wouldn't intervene unless I was packing.
I've seen and been around situations where dying is definitely a possibility when trying to be the good Samaritan. It's just not worth it, IMO.
i was talking about his reply to midges reply.... what the are you talkin about?
you would have never been without the minstrel show that is Flavor Flav.....
Sorry, that's what I cared about!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
are you drunk? or do you just sound this stupid all the time?
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