View Poll Results: Was the Kidd trade Good for the Mavs ?

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  1. #176
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    I wonder if Findog and monosylab1k are the same person. They say the same dumb and are completely ignorant to stats.
    Yep, you got us, we're the same 43-year old KFC aficionado/lonely masturbator living in our mom's basement.

    And we're completely oblivious to the fact that since the Kidd trade we're giving up fewer points, holding opponents to a lower FG%, allowing fewer offensive rebounds and fouling less.

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    I wonder if Findog and monosylab1k are the same person. They say the same dumb and are completely ignorant to stats.
    ing weak. You're the one ignoring stats and made it worse by making the dumbest claim in internet history, that +/- is the only stat that matters.

    You're a disgrace to all bandwagon jumpers.

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    I wonder if Findog and monosylab1k are the same person. They say the same dumb and are completely ignorant to stats.

    Don't get bothered by tweedle dee and tweedle dum........they just like to curse and try to shout down people with different opinions.

    It doesn't change the truth.....

    I will say that Findog is a bit like the character in Awakenings though, he sometimes has some coherent thoughts, but Mono is purely a waste of time.

    He just like to act like an internet tough guy, and then calls names when he runs into words that contain more than 2 syllables and he can't understand them.

    When Mono speaks it is like a Mouth shart.



    DD

  4. #179
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    I am sorry, did you say something?

    DD

  5. #180
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    I will say that Findog is a bit like the character in Awakenings though


    DD
    Oh, that is so kind of you. I'm only partially re ed.

    You stay classy, da_rockets_fan.

  6. #181
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    why can't we have some good trolls for a change? guys that are actually funny. kinda like the old days of Louis and Jonathan Chow.

  7. #182
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    why can't we have some good trolls for a change? guys that are actually funny. kinda like the old days of Louis and Jonathan Chow.

    Hey it is Captain 98% of the board agrees with me.....how are you doing?

    I guess the numbers you pulled from your anus were really just chunks of last night's burrito....

    DD

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    why can't we have some good trolls for a change? guys that are actually funny. kinda like the old days of Louis and Jonathan Chow.
    I don't know about trolls, but if we're going to be calling out fellow Mavs fans, not one person has commented on my Bob Ortegel anal sex sig. "He can do that!"
    Last edited by Findog; 04-09-2008 at 03:03 PM.

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    Oh, that is so kind of you. I'm only partially re ed.

    You stay classy, da_rockets_fan.

    LOL - Have a sense of humor.

    The guy was not re ed, he was comatose because of an influenza outbreak and was briefly awakened with L-Dopa....

    Actually Findog, when you are not cursing or slipping into Mono like posts, I quite enjoy the discussions we have.

    DD
    Last edited by DaDakota; 04-09-2008 at 03:14 PM.

  10. #185
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    LOL - Have a sense of humor.

    The guy was not re ed, he was comatose because of an influenza outbreak and was breafly awakened with L-Dopa....
    Ah. I've never actually seen the movie all the way through, just parts of it.

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    Hey it is Captain 98% of the board agrees with me.....how are you doing?

    I guess the numbers you pulled from your anus were really just chunks of last night's burrito....

    DD
    Hi DD.

  12. #187
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    ing weak. You're the one ignoring stats and made it worse by making the dumbest claim in internet history, that +/- is the only stat that matters.

    You're a disgrace to all bandwagon jumpers.
    Yes it is the best stat in basketball to tell if a player is having a positive effect on the game. They play the same position so it is very comparable. Btw I looked up the stats of Harris's team with a full healthy team in January and Kidd's team with a full healthy team up to now. The team with Harris and Diop scored 101.8 per game and gave up 93.4. The team with Kidd scored 103 points and gave up 94.8 points. The team with Kidd feasted on the bad teams in 5 straight games while they couldn't beat the best teams. The teams that actually care about transition defense beat Dallas.
    Last edited by mavsfan1000; 04-09-2008 at 03:13 PM.

  13. #188
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    Hey it is Captain 98% of the board agrees with me.....how are you doing?

    I guess the numbers you pulled from your anus were really just chunks of last night's burrito....

    DD
    The only guy I know pulling anything out of anyone's rectum is devilish Ladies' Man Bob Ortegel. I've seen that man clean up in the Jack Daniels Old No. 7 Club like a kid tearing through presents on Christmas morning.

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    Mmmmmmm...Jack Daniels.......one of my favorite founding fathers, he came over on the Johnny Walker Red, right?

    DD

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    The mavs of old won 67 games and were 29-12 this year. The reason the mavs didn't go small is because they didn't have a good backup at the time because of lack of depth. Barea was a liability. Now they have Lue so starting Harris and Terry was definitely a good option. Yes teams would fear that combo. That combo is what got us over the hump against the spurs.
    huh? isn't that the same combo we had the whole year??? And how well did THAT do ... Avery had issues playing that lineup because youre putting a small devin harris out there along with the defensively crippled jason terry. Now they have a much bigger and stronger jason kidd and jason terry. You didnt lose much defense at all / actually you gained a very smart defender that can guard 3 maybe 4 positions and you still have terry. On top of that you add a guy that can get terry much easier looks than he had been getting. We gain an exponential boost in fast break ability and one of the best if not the best floor leader in basketball. [and that has been said by many media outlets and columnists] Say what you want about Kidd, but he's a proven commodity. Don't get sucked in by youth and talent because the spurs have been wining championship after championship with the same old [smart] veteran guys

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    Don't get sucked in by youth and talent because the spurs have been wining championship after championship with the same old [smart] veteran guys
    But the Spurs can all shoot.....

    Jason Kidd has had an amazing career, but his inability to actually SHOOT well is a massive stain on his career.

    And with the rules being the way they are now (in favor of penetrating players) trading a good penetrating player who can shoot for a player who doesn't or can't penetrate and can't shoot is a bad deal.

    Sure you will get some easy trasnition baskets, and some good looks for Dirk and Josh in early offense sets, but when the games slow down in the playoffs, Kidd will be even more exposed.

    Bad trade.

    DD

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    I am sorry, did you say something?
    You did.
    Don't get caught up in the numbers
    Hypocrite.

  18. #193
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    But the Spurs can all shoot.....

    Jason Kidd has had an amazing career, but his inability to actually SHOOT well is a massive stain on his career.

    And with the rules being the way they are now (in favor of penetrating players) trading a good penetrating player who can shoot for a player who doesn't or can't penetrate and can't shoot is a bad deal.

    Sure you will get some easy trasnition baskets, and some good looks for Dirk and Josh in early offense sets, but when the games slow down in the playoffs, Kidd will be even more exposed.

    Bad trade.

    DD
    I gotta agree with DaDakota. He knows his stuff. Kidd can't shoot and can't penetrate. Teams will force Kidd to be a scorer and put more pressure on the other 4 players. Kidd is a liability in the halfcourt. He doesn't create a lot like Nash does when in a halfcourt setting because of these 2 things (shooting and slashing).

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    "Denial is not just a river in Africa".......wow that doesn't work one bit in the written format. Not that a cliche that tired works at all. Fail.

  20. #195
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    huh? isn't that the same combo we had the whole year??? And how well did THAT do ... Avery had issues playing that lineup because youre putting a small devin harris out there along with the defensively crippled jason terry. Now they have a much bigger and stronger jason kidd and jason terry. You didnt lose much defense at all / actually you gained a very smart defender that can guard 3 maybe 4 positions and you still have terry. On top of that you add a guy that can get terry much easier looks than he had been getting. We gain an exponential boost in fast break ability and one of the best if not the best floor leader in basketball. [and that has been said by many media outlets and columnists] Say what you want about Kidd, but he's a proven commodity. Don't get sucked in by youth and talent because the spurs have been wining championship after championship with the same old [smart] veteran guys
    The lineup works but we had no one off the bench that could score at the time. Lue was not on this team. We got 67 wins with Harris and Terry starting together for a lot of the year. Don't say it can't work. As long as we got a shotblocking center to cover up for one defensive liability we could get away with it except for a few teams.

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    I gotta agree with DaDakota. He knows his stuff. Kidd can't shoot and can't penetrate. Teams will force Kidd to be a scorer and put more pressure on the other 4 players. Kidd is a liability in the halfcourt. He doesn't create a lot like Nash does when in a halfcourt setting because of these 2 things (shooting and slashing).
    So which Bulls team was your favorite back when you were a Bulls fan?

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    I gotta agree with DaDakota. He knows his stuff. Kidd can't shoot and can't penetrate. Teams will force Kidd to be a scorer and put more pressure on the other 4 players. Kidd is a liability in the halfcourt. He doesn't create a lot like Nash does when in a halfcourt setting because of these 2 things (shooting and slashing).
    Take that Mavs logo out of your avatar and remove the team's name from your moniker, you ing loser.

  23. #198
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    Lue was not on this team.
    You keep talking about Lue like he's done something in Dallas worth talking about. Why don't you take a look at what Lue's done in your beloved +/- statistic.

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    Take that Mavs logo out of your avatar and remove the team's name from your moniker, you ing loser.
    I prefer intelligent speaking rather than my team is better than your team smack talk. Sorry if I'm not homer enough for you.

  25. #200
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    You keep talking about Lue like he's done something in Dallas worth talking about. Why don't you take a look at what Lue's done in your beloved statistic.
    He has not gotten enough minutes thanks to Avery and his lovefest for Stackhouse. Lue needs more minutes and he'll produce. He had a positive +/- in Atlanta so I know he can produce here if given enough minutes.

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