Spurs Committed to Ryan Anderson

[K-State Spur]

No doubt a healthy Manu helps, but the whole point of this was saying the Spurs defense has slipped.

Agreed - nobody's arguing that. It's your "misremembering" of Nazr's defense that is the point of contention.

[DPG21920]

That was my point, here, lets solve this, who was better for the Spurs, Elson or Nazr? Obviously, Kurt is the best (career wise) but I wonder if his time has passed a little, he is always in foul trouble and his shot was poor on the Spurs. I do not know if it is age or unfamiliarity from the system, I wonder if we will get to find out. I personally would rather sign Hibbert and let Ian play than sign Kurt and pass on Hibbert. Saves us money and Hibbert will at minimum give us what Kurt did.

[DPG21920]

I never claimed Nazr was a superstar by any stretch, I just said we are missing a longer body like his in the low post who can alter things by just standing there. Oberto and Kurt can not do that. Hibbert can.

[SpursChampsIII]

Their contract status' are discussed all over the place on this board, even within this thread. Do the leg work.

If you don't know, just say so. You show me where on this thread, prior to my first post, does it say whether or not Batum and Ajinca are under contract overseas? Quit using message boards to try to get a reputation only to embarrass yourself.

[K-State Spur]

I would like to see what you were saying about Nazr when he was playing a huge role, you were probably jocking him. I never said he was a great shot blocker, I said he was a big man that clogged up the lane and altered shots, thats all, and he played way more of a role than Elson did.

Well, you got the clogging of the lane correctly...

And all of our current big men (save Oberto, who is a much better help defender) alter shots as well Nazr.

[K-State Spur]

I never claimed Nazr was a superstar by any stretch, I just said we are missing a longer body like his in the low post who can alter things by just standing there. Oberto and Kurt can not do that. Hibbert can.

Kurt is a MUCH better defender and shotblocker at his worst than Nazr is at his best.

[DPG21920]

Kurt averages .7 blocks a game for his career? Nazr was also much longer.

[Tully365]

The latest nba.com mock has the Cavs taking Anderson at # 20. A week ago everyone had him mid 2nd round. If he keeps moving at this speed he will be a lottery pick in the '07 draft, thereby changing History and Time as we currently understand them.

[T Park]

Kurt averages .7 blocks a game for his career? Nazr was also much longer.

Sigh.

Lenth doesnt = great defense.

Come on

[DPG21920]

If you can point out one time that I said Nazr was a Great defender, I will stop posting. I said his length, regardless of skill or not, changes shots. If he just stands there, with arms extended, it makes it harder to score. Hibbert is a legit 7 footer, who has some skill as well, I think it would be a safe pick, that can contribute right away and have some upside, that is 3 very exciting things from a #26, imho

[K-State Spur]

If you can point out one time that I said Nazr was a Great defender, I will stop posting. I said his length, regardless of skill or not, changes shots. If he just stands there, with arms extended, it makes it harder to score. Hibbert is a legit 7 footer, who has some skill as well, I think it would be a safe pick, that can contribute right away and have some upside, that is 3 very exciting things from a #26, imho

guys who don't block shots don't change shots. they could be 8 feet tall and that would still be true.

[BOHOLANO#21]

Instead of an athletic slasher, they target Matt Bonner Jr. when they already have Matt Bonner.

exactly...

[DPG21920]

OK, K-State, then how come so many big guys that are "not shot-blockers" are still in the league. Especially ones that have limited offensive games like Nazr? You can not teach size.

[DPG21920]

Anyways, you are missing the point, Hibbert would be a very nice #26, but I doubt he falls that far.

[DPG21920]

guys who don't block shots don't change shots. they could be 8 feet tall and that would still be true.

So Kurt Thomas does not change shots?

[K-State Spur]

So Kurt Thomas does not change shots?

not particularly.

[K-State Spur]

OK, K-State, then how come so many big guys that are "not shot-blockers" are still in the league. Especially ones that have limited offensive games like Nazr? You can not teach size.

because you can't put a 6'5 guy on shaq or duncan without giving up 50+ points.

[DPG21920]

Smaller guys guard Duncan all the time, what about Ronny Turiaf? What about the Malik Roses of the world, or the Okafors

[K-State Spur]

Smaller guys guard Duncan all the time, what about Ronny Turiaf? What about the Malik Roses of the world, or the Okafors

LOL. Turiaf & Okafor are both the same size as Nazr.

[Nbadan]

The Spurs FO should be commited if they take Anderson...

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Well the videos of Anderson I've seen, he reminds me of a lanky Troy Murphy.

Once again, CDR is a college star who scored well and was considered a great player. Carrawell was like ACC player of the year or something like that, I don't remember.

Again, if Pop and RC see something in this kid, and nothing in the others, then you've got to go with their gut.

If POP wants to go with him, you really go with it, due to him in the past being able to find good players in the rough, ala Udonis Haslem Raja Bell and what not.

What domestic draftee in the last nine years have the Spurs hit on?

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Hibbert is a slow plodding stiff.

No thanks.

As is Anderson.

[T Park]

What domestic draftee in the last nine years have the Spurs hit on?

Whens the last time Pop picked a domestic draftee?

Last time he tried to pick one, was Josh Howard.

[T Park]

As is Anderson.

Won't get an arguement out of me.

I don't like Anderson.

[objective]

How is CDR now Carrawell and Anderson now Murphy?

Why not CDR as Josh Howard and Anderson as Kirk Haston or Cal Bowdler?

Basically any late first is a gamble for staying the league regardless of position. The Spurs as of right now would have greater opportunities at the 1-3 spots than 4-5 on the floor. With Finley a free agent, Barry very old and injury prone, Vaughn proven as no better than a 3rd string point guard, and Manu and Bruce susceptible to injuries, there's at least some opportunity there. It's an applied gamble.

If the Spurs drafted Anderson or any big, Jawai for example, the opportunities probably wouldn't be there. As it is there's Duncan and his major block of minutes, plus Oberto, plus Mahinmi who supposedly could get an opportunity, plus Bonner who replicates the skills of Anderson, plus the possibilities of a re-signed Kurt Thomas and even the longshot of a re-signed Robert Horry . . . where's the opportunity for a big man if there's no guarantee that Mahinmi even gets a chance. If KT is re-signed, that's probably a multi-year deal. So you could have a solid 2+ more seasons through summer 2010 of TD, Mahinmi, Oberto, KT and Bonner before a young big could step on the floor. Meanwhile in summer 09 the only smalls guaranteed are Ginobili, Parker, and Bowen if the Spurs miss out on the prime swingmen this summer with the MLE. Vaughn's deal will be up. Udoka's deal will be up. Barry's deal will be heading into a non-guaranteed year just waiting to be bought out.

I'd rather a gamble on a wing player if one slides to 26 than Anderson or Jawai. It's entirely plausible one doesn't last that long, so it might be moot anyway.