lol fisher and his arkansas st. degeree getting powned
The most ridiculous was when they answered to player through it breaking the most basic rules of the lockout.
It's hard to tell if owners offer is true good faith offer or if it's just a PR move without knowing every details of this offer. A CBA has a lot mechanism that interacts. For example, I wouldn't be overly surprised to learn that owners offer is nearly equivalent of a hard cap.
Stern was Hunter's man. He got beat so bad that he's not even in the frame.if the players accept a deal this gif will dominate the twitter feeds of the nba writers, because thats exactly what it would be.
Some details about owners offer:
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baske...ils/51170894/1
Players and big market teams are screwed.
The only good point for players is that they can opt out after 6 years.
Honestly, why would the owners want to make a deal now when they are so close to seeing how the players respond to missing a paycheck? It doesn't make any sense. If there was a deal to be made it would have been made long ago.
The owners are playing with house money now. Offer the players crap and if they agree it's a bonus. If they turn it down wait until the players miss a paycheck and then come to the table.
The players could have put tons of pressure on the owners with the right public outreach but Hunter's absolute incompetence on the PR side of things has put them in a very difficult spot.
How do you make a BILLION dollar concession with your first offer and be painted as the greedy ones? Awful, awful leadership.
me.
That's an ELE for the Lakers.
Ya Bruno, I was going to say that from my understanding, even before reading that link, that the owners offer wasn't all that much different from the one the players wouldn't even vote on.
This is not good.
They are not going to accept this. They will start the decertification process and wait for the owners response.
I agree, but sadly people will call the player idiots and greedy for not taking this completely terrible offer. So it puts a lot of pressure because many who don't understand the financial ramifications of this deal and how it works (at least with some degree of understanding) will just bark and bark and want to be entertained.
I'm more sick to my stomach & closer to tears after reading this:::
• An increased luxury tax. For the first $5 million over the luxury threshold, a team will pay $1.50 for every dollar over the limit. For the next $5 million over the luxury threshold, team will pay $1.75 for every dollar over. For the next $5 million over the luxury threshold, team will pay $2.50 for every dollar over. For the next $5 million over the luxury threshold, team will pay $3.25 for every dollar over. For every $5 million after $20 million, the tax increases 50 cents: $3.50, $4, $4.50, etc.
Teams also face a stiffer tax for exceeding the luxury tax threshold more than three times in any five-year period. A dollar will be added to the above numbers if that happens so that $1.50 becomes a $2.50 tax, $1.75 becomes $2.75, $2.50 becomes $3.50 and $3.25 becomes $4.25.
:::than I was reading about the Penn State Fiasco particulars.
What a load of crap. Yeah, the owners are going to throw the season in November.
The NBA players are just stupid n~ggers to a lot of the fans.
Grim, but, true.
Sure comes off that way sometimes, BB
that luxury tax deal on the usa today article. wow thats the definition of rape. these concessions of the MLE are meaningless if teams are not in position to spend them. i dont think fisher will even bring this up for vote. its bound to lose by alot.
And the NLRB for failing to rule out the case in an adequate amount of time.
If they don't accept the players need some leaders to step up and start thinking about damage control.
Lakers will get $150M per year with their local TV deal. Even if they spend $50M in luxury tax, they still will be fine.
What will hurt them is the min MLE for taxpayer and no S&T.
So....tennis, anyone?
Ken Berger article:
http://ken-berger.blogs.cbssports.co...38893/33243068
In addition to the seven major agencies that have been clamoring for decertification for months, several other previously moderate agencies have joined the movement, sources told CBSSports.com.
"They've lost me," said one of the previously moderate agents. "Three months ago, we thought this would be done. We thought people would be reasonable."
Looks like it's taking the ugly road...The introduction of a series of B-list issues -- drug testing in the offseason, an age-limit of 20, and a provision that would allow teams to send players to the D-League during the first five years of their careers and make substantially less than the NBA minimum -- formed a rallying point to get players and agents who formerly were open to considering the league's system proposals unified against it.
And@ owners having such things like the D-League rule as a B-list issue. It's a rule that basically makes all rookies contract unguaranteed and they treating it as a minor item. That's crazy.
If you look back at what was said, from Holt saying "the players haven't hurt enough" as well as Hunter telling people "that he was guaranteed the owners would lock the players out and they didn't care if a season was lost" to all of the offers that come out after the dog and pony shows from the "negotiating sessions" it is very clear that there was a predetermined plan from the owners to bust the players and lose a season doing so.
It's basically the same deal from a month ago. smh.
If that's the best Hunter can do, and he has any dignity left, he should hand over a "disclaimer of interest" letter to Stern monday, and players should be suing in federal court Tuesday.
Am I the only one who thinks that the tiny step up to the second level of the tax is kinda wonky?
Correct, Nono. And that disclaimer of interest is what I was referring to when I said "decertification or something along those lines". No more time wasting. No more being tricked. No more hoping that logic will prevail. Quit shuffling your feet and either sign off or make a stand.
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