Zimmerman charged with 2nd Degree Murder. He is in custody. Turned himself in. Al Sharpton now speaking.
Who made you arbiter? Oh please. you honor, forgive me.....
When he stops dissembling and being deceptive as a matter of course, I will stop treating him like .
And its not what you do; its how you do it. That's the whole point. You do not do it so much now that i have called you on it but if you will recall your questioning my 'charm' and calling me a women and the like. That last bit i found to be delicious irony.
Then of course is:
I have told you before that I am sorry that I whatever it is that i do to you but I am going to say what I feel. I tried compromising before and that didn't work. Sorry.not at all. your style rubs me the wrong way, is all.
Zimmerman charged with 2nd Degree Murder. He is in custody. Turned himself in. Al Sharpton now speaking.
Great.
I can't stand that guy. Couldn't they have brought in someone people take seriously?
It's always relevant. It's the stuff we're made of after all.
Good on all counts, except the last one. Sharpton will turn this into a god dammned circus in short order.
He actually did okay but he did say he didn't trust the Governor or the special prosecutor but now he thanks for doing their job. So if they wouldn't have charged Zimmerman he would have accused them of NOT doing their job!?
Well, there will be no verdict before November so, the politicians can all relax.
2nd degree is going to be unable to prove. They should have gone with manslaughter and gotten a guaranteed conviction.
So here we go. The law as is worked. Now we non-Floridians can stop demanding that they change their laws.
Actually, Zimmerman might end up being a victim of not understanding what was covered or not under the law.
I think they felt pressured into going 2nd degree.
It's not like manslaughter won't be an option to the jury though right?
In the Casey Anthony trial they had a list of charges all the way from murder 1 to manslaughter to choose from. Unless I'm completely out to lunch, can't the jury still convict for manslaughter?
Well, they're going to have to prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, Zimmerman had criminal intent that resulted in Martin's death.
There is one problem with that. I am innocent.
What they're going to have to prove without a reasonable doubt is that Zimmerman did not act in self-defense. That's all the statute covers.
Who "initiated the assault" or such language isn't part of the statute...
Zimmerman turned himself in...
Can he now claim the $10,000 new black panther reward?
Seems only fair.
I disagree.
He could have not been acting in self-defense and, through negligence or recklessness, shot Martin. That's what's covered by manslaughter. To get to murder, you have to prove criminal intent.
i think stalking is a crime.
Did you cry when he turned himself in, got?
But you're not disagreeing with me
The charge is murder in the 2nd degree, not manslaughter (which doesn't mean the jury can't eventually convict him for manslaughter, but that's a different story).
In order to prove there was criminal intent, the prosector will have to prove he was not "standing his ground" and acting in self-defense. Who initiated the assault has nothing to do with it. Never did. It's not part of any statute, AFAIK.
1782.04 Murder.--
(1)(a) The unlawful killing of a human being:
1. When perpetrated from a premeditated design to effect the death of the person killed or any human being;(2) The unlawful killing of a human being, when perpetrated by any act imminently dangerous to another and evincing a depraved mind regardless of human life, although without any premeditated design to effect the death of any particular individual, is murder in the second degree and cons utes a felony of the first degree, punishable by imprisonment for a term of years not exceeding life or as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.
this sounds more like the crime:
782.07 Manslaughter; aggravated manslaughter of an elderly person or disabled adult; aggravated manslaughter of a child; aggravated manslaughter of an officer, a firefighter, an emergency medical technician, or a paramedic.--
(1) The killing of a human being by the act, procurement, or culpable negligence of another, without lawful justification according to the provisions of chapter 776 and in cases in which such killing shall not be excusable homicide or murder, according to the provisions of this chapter, is manslaughter, a felony of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.
(2) A person who causes the death of any elderly person or disabled adult by culpable negligence under s. 825.102(3) commits aggravated manslaughter of an elderly person or disabled adult, a felony of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.
(3) A person who causes the death of any person under the age of 18 by culpable negligence under s. 827.03(3) commits aggravated manslaughter of a child, a felony of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.
(4) A person who causes the death, through culpable negligence, of an officer as defined in s. 943.10(14), a firefighter as defined in s. 112.191, an emergency medical technician as defined in s. 401.23, or a paramedic as defined in s. 401.23, while the officer, firefighter, emergency medical technician, or paramedic is performing duties that are within the course of his or her employment, commits aggravated manslaughter of an officer, a firefighter, an emergency medical technician, or a paramedic, a felony of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.
History.--RS 2384; GS 3209; RGS 5039; CGL 7141; s. 715, ch. 71-136; s. 180, ch. 73-333; s. 15, ch. 74-383; s. 6, ch. 75-298; s. 12, ch. 96-322; s. 2, ch. 2002-74.
The primary distinction between Premeditated First Degree Murder and Second Degree Murder with a Depraved Mind is that First Degree Murder requires a specific and premeditated intent to kill.
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