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King of their division from an historical perspective.
Niners
Packers
Cowboys
Saints
Broncos or Raiders?
Steelers
Patriots
Colts
deserve mention...
Those Otto Graham Browns teams
50's Lions teams
That undefeated Dolphins team
85 Bears
That Colt team that lost to Joe Namath had...
RB's...Tom Matte, Jerry Hill
WR's...Ray Berry, Jimmy Orr
All white and slowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.
King of their division from an historical perspective.
Niners
Packers
Cowboys
Saints
Broncos or Raiders?
Steelers
Patriots
Colts
deserve mention...
Those Otto Graham Browns teams
50's Lions teams
That undefeated Dolphins team
85 Bears
It's funny watching any of those ESPN/NFLNetwork guys talk about how Russell Wilson is now among the elite, a unique talent, the modern day Fran Tarkenton, a legend in the making. Bill Belichick comparing him to Roger Staubach and then a guy like myself (who saw Staubach play at Navy) who has far far more experience at this than anyone here saying he's great. Then to read a bunch of dummies......................sheesh~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Is it because he's what? Black? Short? Wisconsin QB? Runs too much? Doesn't need to throw all over the place? What exactly is it?
Only a blind man or a total fool wouldn't see this guys greatness.
Last edited by Avante; 01-21-2015 at 07:48 PM.
Will we ever see another speedy/quick/elusive white running back drafted in the first round?
When the Boston Patriots first came into existance in the old AFL their first QB was a cat who was working as a probation officer, a former CFL player named...Ed "Butch" Songin. He sucked, so in 1961 they traded (Raiders)for Babe Parilli out of Kentucky, he was a good QB, they also moved db Gino Cappelletti to receiver. Parilli to Cappelletti was the first potent Italian passing duo in pro football history. Their first stud linebacker....Nick Buonconti.
See, ya learned something.
Hard to believe but 100% true.
A wide receiver blind in one eye...Wesley Walker Jets
A 137 pound kick returner....Gerald McNeil Oilers
A 5-4 "stud" running back....Buddy Young Colts
Gale Sayers having a brother faster than he was
John Riggins winning the Kansas State 100yd in 9.8.
When Bob Hayes was wowing everyone with his WR speed, there were two others in the league who had beaten him....who?
Avante has never heard of hand timers...
How long does it take the avg human being to hear a noise and THEN press a button?
Try this trick:
fold a hundy in half lengthwise
Make sure its new and crisp.
Hold the hundy lengthwise barely above the opened fore finger and thumb of a contestant wishing to lose a hundy.
Give the contestant about an inch of distance between the thumb and forefinger.
Drop the hundy.
The contestant should not be able to pinch the hundy, no human should unless they jump the gun early, the hundy will fall thru before the pinch.
If you can pinch the bill, you have cheated.
It will be really obvious if you get said contestant drunk, like Avante on the prowl for underage Asian girls.
While a junior at Baker High School in Florida, sprinter Houston McTear runs a sizzlin' 9.2 at the Florida State Track & Field Championships. I was at a big meet in Fresno when the PA announcer chimed in with that. The WR being 9.0 held by Ivory Crockett out of Southern Illinois. Later that night...."this just in from the Florida State Track & Field Championships, Baker High Schools Houston McTear has just ran a....(long pause).....NINE FLAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The crowd went bonkers with...WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
Little man you'd be funny if ya weren't so stupid. I ran the sprints in the 60's, now think moron.
So how long?
How long does it take to hear that sound and then press that start button?
Lets assume the said timer is 100 yards away at the finish line?
Being that you are so interested in the accuracy of fast times at distance.
Where on earth did you get this idea timers went with the sound of the gun? THEY WENT WITH THE SMOKE...ok?
ing rookies, sheesh~~~~~~~~~~~
Read..
Someone standing on the finish line, 100m away, won't hear the gun until 0.303 seconds after the start. He might see a puff of smoke from the starter's pistol just 0.270 seconds after the gun. Hand-timers were trained to react to the smoke signal.
Smoke.
You are Frkn old.
So the 0.27 second was added? To the final time?
And of course this all varies a great deal, especially with the SOUND that is used in today's HS track meets.
I'll go slow...
Hand timing was dumped in 1976 as was running yards. Post 1976 it's been about meters and electro timing, and you add 0.24 not 0.27....ok?
But....
It's real had to beleive that Jesse Owens who ran a 10.2 was just a 10.44 guy. That won't win Cali State HS today.
And yes back in those hand timed days it was all about the smoke from the gun not the sound.
This will be the third Superbowl the Seahawks have played in, as we know they aren't one of those old/long time NFL franchises. So here they are looking to win another Championship Belt while the Lions/Browns have never played in a SB despite how long they've been around, it just isn't right.
Imagine a black kid who was raised by just his mom. They struggled trying to make it because dad was...poof! But because the kid can run he gets a scholarship to college. While he might get a little under the the table $$$$ it's nothing like his first NFL contract.
Like most here I started out making a little then as the years went by.....
Imagine...BOOM!!!!!!!!!...big $$$$$$.
No wonder we see what we do from these young black guys. Talk about a life changing in a matter of minutes, there it is.
I do get a kick out of all this.....Russell Wilson is a so so talent on a great team........hahahaha!!!!!!!!
Bart Starr was on a better team, yet....Hall of Fame. Terry Bradshaw was on a better team....Hall of Fame. Joe Namath only had one great season....Hall of Fame.
Russell Wilson is histories most successful QB after three seasons. And he doesn't have the leagues best RB, he does have a great defense but no receivers.
So how come playing on great teams didn't hurt Starr or Bradshaw when it came time for HOF voting?
Marshawn Lynch has averaged 79.1 yards a game as a Seahawk. Shaun Alexander averaged 79.2. Curt Warner...72.1. So Lynch isn't doing a whole of a lot that hadn't already been done there. , Chris Warren had 4 1000 yard seasons in a row where he averaged around 75 yards a game.
In his first three seasons STRUGGLE Aikman threw 46 INt's and only 31 TD's. hahahaha!!!!!!!! And Aikman had the all time rushing king Emmitt Smith, a HOF receiver, a great TE, a stud fullback and a monster O line. So why is he doing in the HOF?
How many seasons did Peyton Manning have...Harrison, Wayne, Clark and James?
Last edited by Avante; 01-26-2015 at 04:33 AM.
Dan Marino at Pitt
79tds/69ints
Passer rating...127.7
Russell Wilson at North Carolina/Wisconsin
109tds/30ints
Passer rating...147.2...the highest in NCAA history
Russell Wilson vs Marcus Mariota senior seasons
RW
Comp % 72.8
td/int....33/4
passer rating...191.8
MM
Comp%...68.3
td/int...42/4
passer rating...181.7
Last edited by Avante; 01-26-2015 at 04:53 AM.
I keep waiting for someone to show me any QB who had a better first three seasons than Russell Wlson.
Games started
Completion %
TD/INT ratio
Rushing
Wins
Passer rating
So who had a better first three seasons, well?
Joe Montana? Dan Marino? Peyton Manning? Aaron Rodgers? Johnny Unitas? Andrew Luck? Tom Brady? Brett Favre? Otto Graham? John Elway? Warren Moon in Canada?
Who?
I'm not saying better than Russel Wilson, but Kurt Warner's first three seasons in the NFL were pretty good. Okay, well his first was backup duty, but the next 2 seasons were pretty good and the 4th was pretty good as well.
Surprised you didn't mention him in your list of names.
Warner only played in 24 games in his first three seasons, that won't work.
What seems to get lost in all this is how RW walked right in and took over. How many QB's have done that? The great Johnny Unitas was cut. How many great QB's had a rookie season like RW, and then in his next two...SUPERBOWLS.
Wilson walked right in and took a 7-9 team to a playoff win in season one, in season two..SUPERBOWL WIN! in season three ANOTHER SUPERBOWL.Who compares to that? In three seasons...6..playoff wins.....so far. RW has never lost to any SB winning QB, he's....10-0.
No QB in history has won more games in their first three seasons. What is the bottom line....WINNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Last edited by Avante; 01-26-2015 at 01:32 PM.
Rodgers only played in 7 games his first three seasons in the NFL, but is comparable to Wilson but Warner is not despite playing more than 3x as many games.
Not saying Warner had a better 3 year start than Wilson, but to not include him in the list of comparables by your logic then say he isn't comparable by a different logic for which you contradict yourself is asinine. I guess that is right on par for you though.
Everyone I listed either plays today or is in the top 10 stat wise, or is in the Hall of Fame, that leaves Kurt Warner out.
And.....that wasn't meant to be every QB who ever played. Honest!
In his first three seasons Joe Namath threw....70....INTs. He never completed more than 57% of his passes or had a passer rarting higher than....74.0. That's terrible!
How about the great Roger Staubach?
Warner did not play long enough in the league to rack up top stats, is not eligible for the hall of fame until this August.
Besides, I thought you were only comparing the first 3 years, in one of which Warner was the MVP of the league, something that Wilson does not have (albeit he won the SB, unlike Warner).
Either you are comparing the first 3 years in the league or you aren't.
This is worse than having a conversation with a woman. The requirements chnage based upon how you see fit. AKA loser speak.
Why did you totally ignore what I just said? Is Warner playing today.,...nope! Did he have the stats...nope! Is he in the HOF....nope! Are all those others one of those...YEP!
Dude, are you really as dumb as you appear?
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