I think I agree with all of this. But I'm not looking for a #1 guy, that guy just had a top 5 rookie season ever. He is already a defensive force. Lean into that. Defensive, spacing, shooting. Naz does all that really well. Lauri does 2 of those maybe better, and one of them far worse.
I want great complementary pieces who fits really well with Wemby, part of that is helping Wemby on D. And I do not think Naz has had his chance to shine.
KAT was a number 1, put up huge stats, made Allstar teams, I'd rather have Naz at the same money, no exaggeration. I'm cool having Wemby surrounded by high-end role players and until a real 1B comes available-maybe draft, maybe FA, maybe trade- to me maxes should only go to real 1As and 1Bs, think thats gonna prove out under the new CBA. 1 and 2 time All-Stars are often very bad value, great role players that often play at or near that same All-Star level are often great value with lesser counting stats.
I think Naz would get much better next to Wemby and I think he'll get better as a 24 y/o thats still developing.
I am not saying your at all wrong, just Championship window is big here for me. Naz fits that much better imo and has already proven himself in the POs. Plus, defense is undervalued in contracts.
But I take your points, Lauri definitely has more creation ability, ability to step-up on his own, take over a game if/when needed. I really like him but with the new CBA rules, I'm terrified of giving a borderline All-Star who misses 30% of games over 7 seasons max money. If Lauri plays 70-75 games this year, a lot of my fears are alleviated. Injuries can always happen, but the best indicator is prolly lots of missed games. Thats a huge marked against Lauri and I don't see him as a high-end #2 unless he's showing up 80% of the time.
Yeah, I'm not trying to make the case Naz is a #2, just that he may be much better value either (trade or FA). But if Minny moves McDaniels, keeps Reid, this is moot (but that s their SL).
And that I think Lauri is very likely an expiring for UTA, so much cheaper mid-season. I do think if Lauri improves his D a bit (likely when not shouldering a whole O) and plays more games, he's a great fit and a difference maker.
Is this true? Right after winning the Championship they're looking to sell, or were they already looking to beforehand?
Who was the quote by? Was it former GM (Bob Myers?)?Light years ahead
no the team owner Joe Lacob
That is wild. The only thing crazier is that OKC has only managed to have one of their picks lol.
Oh, right, thanks. Glad it wasn't Bob Myers as I like the guy.
Man, just saw that MIL draft pick list. What the heck are they going to do to get talent around Giannis? What if he asks out? They're going to ask for a bounty for him looking at how depleted they are draft pick wise, or do you think if they trade both Giannis and Lillard, they'll get quite a few of those first rounders back?
Won't likely be as good as their own picks, though. Wow, they're in a bad spot.
Thats exactely why I like us stockpiling assets like the Minnesota stuff or the Dallas swap.
Once we are in contention (and we somehow will even with giving up some stuff), having some assets to retool and enhance will really help and prevents us from having a frustrated Wemby or just to be not one of these teams that will be eaten up by the disease of more after winning one ship.
Probably not their '31 FRP outright, because that would hurt their chances of moving their '32 FRP next year per the Stepien rule. However, there's a way to suck most of the value of that pick and still leave them with the possibility to trade their '32 pick: get swap rights instead. Spurs own 2 '31 FRPs: their own + Minnesota's. You can offer Milwaukee to keep the worst of the three while the Spurs keep the best two (among Spurs' own, Minnesota's and Milwaukee's). That way Milwaukee is guaranteed to keep a pick which allows them to trade their '32 if they need to do so at a later time. Since Spurs paid 3 SRPs in the Grant Williams/Reggie Bullock trade to get that '30 swap with Dallas, I'd say 4 SRPs would be in the ballpark of what would be required.
There is, however, a caveat: lumping assets together may improve their outlook in a vacuum but also takes away some flexibility, if you're going to use them via trades or if you project Spurs by then should resort to SRPs to fill their roster like many contenders are doing nowadays (like Denver, for instance). So it's a sensible path, but it depends on what's the team's strategy going forward. Something to consider nonetheless.
A lot of these teams like Denver, Milwaukee, Dallas, with great single players have leveraged nearly everything they have. I'm not sure this is what the league wants, but it'll force them to eventually trade out those stars. Actually, just realized that's what they want. Never mind.
That’s the point a lot of people are missing about Utah and any potential GS trade. Markannen’s window of interest is five years. Utah sucks for the first half of it,and GS sucks for the last half.
Yeah, Jokic has really been leveraging Denver over the past years and is surely about to ask for a trade.
It's just amazing how bad some of your takes are and yet you post them with such confidence.
I think he’s a bitter little who overplayed his hand and ended up with less. That 3rd year in Dallas, he’s essentially playing for $2M, in the context of GS’s 2/$48m offer.
It’s a business, and should be treated as such. You intake GS’s offer, and field other offers. Take the best one.
it's so funny LeBron hinted a paycut for another star and the big fish were like 'nah'. Also no one wants to be within five feet of that choker D'Angelo Russell loooool I love this offseason.
That’s why I think it had nothing to do with the money, but that he felt slighted by the team. At some level I get it too: you’re a good soldier, no drama, and are indispensable to the success of the team’s runs, but when it’s time to reward you the organization prioritizes the loud and overrated young upstart.
Millionaire problems…
I thought GS gave Klay a nice contract right after he was severely injured? Probably akot of factors for his bitterness, starting with he is not as good as he used to be.
What’s not to understand? Lopez can help this team. The Spurs need a big for matchups with other true bigs (Jokic, Gobert, etc.). They also need outside shooting. They also need veteran leadership. It would also be fantastic to get off the Collins deal. I don’t know if Lopez and Vic even play that much together, but Lopez being a true stretch five makes it a lot more plausible than a horribly inconsistent Collins who also gets manhandled in the paint. Lopez certainly hasn’t clogged up the floor for Giannis. But the best part is that if it doesn’t work out they can move Lopez to a contender at the deadline and get more assets. It’s a no brainer.
Badly managed franchise that can't even make the playoffs with LeBron James and supposed top 75 player of all time Anthony Davis still in his prime. It's great to see.
. They’re the ones that traded Lauri to Utah in the first place. Doubt either side wants a reunion.
Winner winner chicken dinner. I think it makes a ton of sense personally from both an on and off court fit perspective. Like CP3, Brooks brings that veteran moxie (plus he has won a chip). The debate is who should add an asset in such a deal, Spurs or Bucks? But straight up is fair given the Bucks’ financial challenges.
Not sure how these deals get structured with the new cap/apron stuff, but the Spurs could also agree to do a separate deal with MIL to eat the Portis money, obviously in exchange for a pick.
I still like Garland for the Spurs long term, but I think that opportunity is on pause for a year now with the Atkinson hire. They’ll try the 2 guard thing again, and when it fails (again) in a year Spurs should be ready to make a move.
This is exactly my reasoning. The eighth pick in a bad draft could have helped Wemby more in the short-term, but might have actually hurt in the long-run if he got an extension and impacted future financial flexibility and wasn’t a bonafide star. The future asset can either be used in a trade or to bring in a cheap rotation piece when Wemby is in his mid/late-20s. Contending teams need ways to bring in young talent, and most have dry cupboards as many here have mentioned.
Plus CP3 would have eaten into almost all of the space had the pick been made. Now the team still has space to add more a vet this year, which is more important to developing the pieces they have.
That’s apparently not true, according to recent post trade leaks. High drama is more like it, just not visible like Dray’s.
With Mitc finally signing an extension, Cavs probably get rid of Garland and Allen, replace them with wings.
Ingram for Allen+ could work, even though NOLA is looking for a stretch big.
Garland to Magic makes sense. With KCP, Suggs and Gary Harris Magic has too many guards that can't playmake. Mitc would prefer a defensive stopper to play with.
Other than that I guess Garland for Cam Johnson, DFS and a couple of picks works.
There's going to be a massive chasm between good and bad teams in the East.
Agreed 100 percent they were always front runners and were fortunate to always get crucial injury breaks from their opponents ala Zaza taking out Kawhi, and then Chris Paul tearing his hamstring when they were down 3-2 in '18. They showed their true colors the last few years when the deck wasn't stacked in their favor and have suffered a meltdown.
I'll never forget the struggle the Spurs had from '07-'14 to climb back as a champion. I always view those years as the wilderness years of the big 3's careers but unlike the Warriors big 3 they didn't pout and meltdown when things didn't go their way during that span and just kept on plugging away to get their status back.
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