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    GSW always seemed to wobble on the brink of hating each other. I never had a great sense of vibes from that team. There was no real leadership other than what Draymond provided in his toxic way, and what seemed to hold them together was a sense of grievance, normally supplied by Kerr or sometimes Durant. Like, I never could imagine these players sticking around the franchise the way the Spurs players have.

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    There is, however, a caveat: lumping assets together may improve their outlook in a vacuum but also takes away some flexibility, if you're going to use them via trades or if you project Spurs by then should resort to SRPs to fill their roster like many contenders are doing nowadays (like Denver, for instance). So it's a sensible path, but it depends on what's the team's strategy going forward. Something to consider nonetheless.
    I hear you. However, the Spurs have 20 SRPs over the next seven years. We have seen over the past couple of drafts that their management of SRPs is a bit dubious. They can't use them all themselves so I would prefer to consolidate as opposed to sell or use on continuous draft and stash. SPRs are currency for role players. FRPs is the currency for star players. In this case, I believe the Bucks pick would need to be unprotected because they can't stipulate fallback options after 2031 right now.

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    Agreed 100 percent they were always front runners and were fortunate to always get crucial injury breaks from their opponents ala Zaza taking out Kawhi, and then Chris Paul tearing his hamstring when they were down 3-2 in '18. They showed their true colors the last few years when the deck wasn't stacked in their favor and have suffered a meltdown.

    I'll never forget the struggle the Spurs had from '07-'14 to climb back as a champion. I always view those years as the wilderness years of the big 3's careers but unlike the Warriors big 3 they didn't pout and meltdown when things didn't go their way during that span and just kept on plugging away to get their status back.
    I was just thinking with their volatility, they could never have done the second act like our big three.

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    Is there anyone good even left in the FA market at this? Maybe Trent Jr. or Kyle Anderson?

    This offseason seems pretty dead. Have we officially shifted to the collecting bad contracts phase of the offseason?

    Basically, where are we on Day 3?

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    Is there anyone good even left in the FA market at this? Maybe Trent Jr. or Kyle Anderson?

    This offseason seems pretty dead. Have we officially shifted to the collecting bad contracts phase of the offseason?

    Basically, where are we on Day 3?
    My mind, they've been in collecting bad contract phase since signing Paul, unless they tried for Batum and, like, he wanted two years and they wanted one.

    Seems the mandate now is:

    1. No long term contracts

    and

    That's it. Not sure what two is. Unless some absolute bargain come through, I think they're looking to squeeze into one of these larger deals for teams trying to move players or get themselves under the apron or tax lines.

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    Is there anyone good even left in the FA market at this? Maybe Trent Jr. or Kyle Anderson?

    This offseason seems pretty dead. Have we officially shifted to the collecting bad contracts phase of the offseason?

    Basically, where are we on Day 3?
    DeRozan is still out there

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    Is there anyone good even left in the FA market at this? Maybe Trent Jr. or Kyle Anderson?

    This offseason seems pretty dead. Have we officially shifted to the collecting bad contracts phase of the offseason?

    Basically, where are we on Day 3?
    It seems like things have been put on hold, there’s some decent free agents Imo Buddy Hield, Caleb Martin, Gary Trent, Kyle Anderson, Tyus Jones. Wondering what the hold up is

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    I was just thinking with their volatility, they could never have done the second act like our big three.
    2022 was their 2014.

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    it's so funny LeBron hinted a paycut for another star and the big fish were like 'nah'. Also no one wants to be within five feet of that choker D'Angelo Russell loooool I love this offseason.
    What do you mean by this? He was going to take a pay cut to get someone else to come? Geez, this guy always needs help if so. A supposed top two player always needed help to win anything.

    Agreed 100 percent they were always front runners and were fortunate to always get crucial injury breaks from their opponents ala Zaza taking out Kawhi, and then Chris Paul tearing his hamstring when they were down 3-2 in '18. They showed their true colors the last few years when the deck wasn't stacked in their favor and have suffered a meltdown.

    I'll never forget the struggle the Spurs had from '07-'14 to climb back as a champion. I always view those years as the wilderness years of the big 3's careers but unlike the Warriors big 3 they didn't pout and meltdown when things didn't go their way during that span and just kept on plugging away to get their status back.
    I didn't look at it that way. The big three had a lot of bad breaks with injuries, luck and roster construction not going their way, but they didn't toss it in and just kept going.

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    My mind, they've been in collecting bad contract phase since signing Paul, unless they tried for Batum and, like, he wanted two years and they wanted one.

    Seems the mandate now is:

    1. No long term contracts

    and

    That's it. Not sure what two is. Unless some absolute bargain come through, I think they're looking to squeeze into one of these larger deals for teams trying to move players or get themselves under the apron or tax lines.
    He wanted his wife to not divorce him, and she wanted LA, sort of the Kawhi of wives.

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    He wanted his wife to not divorce him, and she wanted LA, sort of the Kawhi of wives.
    Couldn't sell her on breakfast tacos.

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    DeRozan is still out there
    king midrange wants the lakers

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    Klay is such a weird example of a guy feeling disrespected, and kinda shows how sometimes there's nothing you can do as a GM or a team to reasonably settle a temperamental dispute. I mean, the Warriors paid him like $110mil over three years where he missed two seasons entirely and played 32 games in the third... that comes out to about $3.4mil PER GAME for three years. They bent over backwards to make him feel appreciated, and he still has this outlandish gripe that he's somehow been disrespected. Human nature sometimes... there's no way to fix an irrationally hurt ego.

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    I always think the Spurs value culture way too much, but this is a reason why it makes sense. The Warriors are mainly falling apart because their players egos are too big. Draymond ran KD out of town and knocked out Poole, cause Poole thought he was the next splash brother. Klay got 2 major injuries and didn't want to come off the bench and Steph didn't bother to fix any of this because he is not a leader.

    But it was now being given to Podziemski, who was 8 when Thompson hit the first of his 2,982 3s (playoffs included) for the franchise. That news didn’t land softly. Thompson ripped into Kerr and his staff, team sources said, and spent some of that day grumbling about his inevitable summer departure from the franchise. His impending free agency loomed in the background all season.
    – via New York Times

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    Donovan Mitc , Cavaliers agree to 3-year, $150.3M extension

    ​https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...503m-extension

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    I hear you. However, the Spurs have 20 SRPs over the next seven years. We have seen over the past couple of drafts that their management of SRPs is a bit dubious. They can't use them all themselves so I would prefer to consolidate as opposed to sell or use on continuous draft and stash. SPRs are currency for role players. FRPs is the currency for star players. In this case, I believe the Bucks pick would need to be unprotected because they can't stipulate fallback options after 2031 right now.
    And I would do it too, just saying that there are reasons not to.

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    About the discussion whether Lauri or Naz would be better. As if either is coming to fruition. I’d rather try to stockpile strong 4th offensive options than shoot for a 2nd option this off season.

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    Couldn't sell her on breakfast tacos.

    her loss.

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    no clue where derozan goes at this point

    lakers could potentially offer him the full MLE if lebron takes a discount, but man, do the lakers really need a poor defender who doesnt space the floor to be out there with lebron and AD? derozan has talent, but the lakers are among the worst fits for him i could imagine.

    the spurs could make use of derozan... but would be valuable Castle reps being taken away imo

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    What do you mean by this? He was going to take a pay cut to get someone else to come? Geez, this guy always needs help if so. A supposed top two player always needed help to win anything.



    I didn't look at it that way. The big three had a lot of bad breaks with injuries, luck and roster construction not going their way, but they didn't toss it in and just kept going.
    I never said that they did. I said this " I always view those years as the wilderness years of the big 3's careers but unlike the Warriors big 3 they didn't pout and meltdown when things didn't go their way during that span and just kept on plugging away to get their status back." Where did I say in this statement that they tossed it in and didn't keep going. Plugging away means they kept going.

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    I never said that they did. I said this " I always view those years as the wilderness years of the big 3's careers but unlike the Warriors big 3 they didn't pout and meltdown when things didn't go their way during that span and just kept on plugging away to get their status back." Where did I say in this statement that they tossed it in and didn't keep going. Plugging away means they kept going.
    I don’t think he’s so much arguing with you as agreeing.

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    Absolutely no way Jalen Green should get a max extension, absolutely not. Playing safe with cap with anyone is a pretty good idea, including Sengun.

    The landscape has completely shifted. Even up-and-coming teams are going to have huge problems.

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    looks like derozan may have to settle for a one-year deal if he wants to get paid. not sure who would take him on as ballast for a season.

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    This is smart by the Rockets.

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