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    In my book it does.
    Your book is poorly written fiction.

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    The flaw in the notion on any forum is how much credibility and play an outlet would get by exposing such a conspiracy. People would eat that up just like the NewsCorp story.
    It'd be a penny wise and pound foolish effort.

    It's like when Limbaugh's people sometimes the morning after will loop a dozen or so Media en y's news stories together. It's hilarious. They all use the same exact verbiage.

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    It'd be a penny wise and pound foolish effort.

    It's like when Limbaugh's people sometimes the morning after will loop a dozen or so Media en y's news stories together. It's hilarious. They all use the same exact verbiage.
    The Daily Show does that with Limbaugh and their ilk as well.

    The fact you don't realize that is hilarious.

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    The Daily Show does that with Limbaugh and their ilk as well.

    The fact you don't realize that is hilarious.
    I'm pleased that we're in agreement here on centralized Media in this country, Dumper.

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    I'm pleased that we're in agreement here on centralized Media in this country, Dumper.
    I'm pleased that you don't even know how stupid you look right now.

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    I'm pleased that you don't even know how stupid you look right now.
    I got a pulpit.

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    You're an idiot.

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    Got you by the short hairs.

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    Got you by the short hairs.
    In your dreams. Of course I'm probably also much younger in your dreams, perv.

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    In your dreams. Of course I'm probably also much younger in your dreams, perv.
    You are a sweetheart in my dreams.

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    There has been a lot negativity floating around about the revised deal on the table Some of it, like the D League demotions, has proven to be false. I wonder where these rumors are coming from and if they aren't predisposing the players into voting no on the deal. This is going to be interesting, as the players must be aware that the deal isn't going to get better down the road in all probability.

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    There has been a lot negativity floating around about the revised deal on the table Some of it, like the D League demotions, has proven to be false. I wonder where these rumors are coming from and if they aren't predisposing the players into voting no on the deal. This is going to be interesting, as the players must be aware that the deal isn't going to get better down the road in all probability.
    Seems kind of like the DLeague Rule has been discussed to try to push them to vote for this package. Like it's part of the 47% + hard cap threat from the NBA or something.

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    Seems kind of like the DLeague Rule has been discussed to try to push them to vote for this package. Like it's part of the 47% + hard cap threat from the NBA or something.
    Bum with the goods. Not the way Media wants us to see the sudden shadow of this DLeague materiel, but, refreshing nonetheless.

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    Seems kind of like the DLeague Rule has been discussed to try to push them to vote for this package. Like it's part of the 47% + hard cap threat from the NBA or something.
    Pretty good threat! Do you think the NBA is ever going to give them a better deal if they walk tomorrow. Other than losing 4 billion for sure, I'm not sure decertification is the answer either. It's not a slam dunk they would prevail in court, though I would give the edge to the players.

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    Fact is, this will all be explained and detailed to the players if they are to vote. The deal needed pretty significant give backs from the owners and this deal isn't very different overall and that's the problem. They gave on the perimeter, but the outcome was still the same and the players aren't buying it.

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    The owners haven't negotiated at all, or only insubstantially. They keep insisting on the same things, then demanding the demands are going to get worse. It's like the GOP holding the country hostage last summer on the debt ceiling bull .

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    The owners haven't negotiated at all, or only insubstantially. They keep insisting on the same things, then demanding the demands are going to get worse. It's like the GOP holding the country hostage last summer on the debt ceiling bull .
    Good analogy. I only wonder if they will gain much from losing an entire season or more. It's plain to see the players have been doing all the compromising. The idea of it being a 6 year deal instead of 10 is a lot better, however it will probably another lock out in six years.

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    The owners haven't negotiated at all, or only insubstantially. They keep insisting on the same things, then demanding the demands are going to get worse. It's like the GOP holding the country hostage last summer on the debt ceiling bull .
    Or, Hussein Obama as POTUS.

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    whether the players or the owners are in the right, the NBA is taking a huge hit in public opinion.

    After most of the articles regarding the status of negotiations, most comments are geared toward "who cares, NBA sucks", "players are overpaid babies", "college ball is better", "I hope the NBA goes away and never comes back" etc etc

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    http://espn.go.com/espn/commentary/s...r-negotiations

    If this article is indicative of how the players feel (and gauging from the Twitterverse, it seems to be), there won't be any deal done this week.

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    This Q&A on Twitter was one of the most infuriating things I have ever seen (relatively speaking obviously). I gave it to them pretty good (not that they really care ). I'll go and post some of the stuff here in a minute.

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    http://espn.go.com/espn/commentary/s...r-negotiations

    If this article is indicative of how the players feel (and gauging from the Twitterverse, it seems to be), there won't be any deal done this week.
    Thomas is going the Frank Luntz route by labeling the owners with the hated CEO word.

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    This is real. This is from the NBA.


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