2024 NBA Off-Season Thread (FA, Trades, Extensions, Rumors)

[Dex]

I feel like the Spurs must have more draft capital to offer for Lauri, but we all know they are going to short-change it

[Mugen]

Godspeed, Fathead.

[Mugen]

Either or get off the Markannen pot tbh. That FA pool starting to try up.

[Robz4000]

Either or get off the Markannen pot tbh. That FA pool starting to try up.

If they're asking for 5 firsts and 5 swaps time to wash their hands of it imo.

[3&D_TBH]

Five firsts and five swaps?! Hahaha. There are only 4-5 dudes in the whole league I would give that up for tbh. Lmfa

[Robz4000]

Five firsts and five swaps?! Hahaha. There are only 4-5 dudes in the whole league I would give that up for tbh. Lmfa

Same, but it seems like that's the going rate these days.

[buttsR4rebounding]

Spurs should make sure they can clear space to offer him the max (if they feel he is worth it) next year and make sure he gets the message. If he wants to pair with Wemby he’ll be there next year for just the financial commitment. If he doesn’t want to be here you don’t want to waste those assets anyway.

[Dejounte]

Clippers trying to acquire Miles Bridges the anti-class organization

[scott]

Clippers looking at Miles Bridges. Wtf happened with the Clips that they want all the abusers?

[Wilt Chamberlain]

Same, but it seems like that's the going rate these days.

If you mean the Nets haul, those picks are from successful playoff teams in MIL and NYK. FRP have more value because of contract controls if you want them but the talent you get 20+ is worth a significant fraction of lottery picks and only slightly better than high SRP.

Would you trade the ATL 2025 unprotected for those 6 picks?

[exstatic]

Is it though? Ive seen Windy report he "thinks" the Spurs are inquiring and I've seen Lowe opine that he would be a good fit in SA but haven't seen any actual reports that SA has had any real talks about it.

When do you EVER hear anything definitive about the Spurs? They run a tight ship, and do not negotiate in the media like 20 something other NBA franchises.

[Robz4000]

If you mean the Nets haul, those picks are from successful playoff teams in MIL and NYK. FRP have more value because of contract controls if you want them but the talent you get 20+ is worth a significant fraction of lottery picks and only slightly better than high SRP.

Would you trade the ATL 2025 unprotected for those 6 picks?

of course not. However, Utah also got the same sort of package for Gobert too and Ainge only makes trades that he feels he won. Been his MO since he was in Boston.

[exstatic]

Same, but it seems like that's the going rate these days.

The market is what teams will pay. Hours after the Bridges trade, Dejounte, with a very similar resume to Lauri (1 ASG), and more remaining years of team control, was traded for contracts, and two FRPs, neither of which is unprotected.

[exstatic]

of course not. However, Utah also got the same sort of package for Gobert too and Ainge only makes trades that he feels he won. Been his MO since he was in Boston.

He’s on the clock, though. Wasn’t the Case with Gobert or Mitc .

[Wilt Chamberlain]

of course not. However, Utah also got the same sort of package for Gobert too and Ainge only makes trades that he feels he won. Been his MO since he was in Boston.

The Gobert trade got them a bunch of the Wolves picks who were a young team on the rise with KAT and Edwards already.

Ainge has a lot of treadmill or worse FRP.

Would you trade the ATL 2025 for the Gobert haul Ainge got?

[Robz4000]

The Gobert trade got them a bunch of the Wolves picks who were a young team on the rise with KAT and Edwards already.

Ainge has a lot of treadmill or worse FRP.

Would you trade the ATL 2025 for the Gobert haul Ainge got?

Absolutely since I think Minny will implode in the next few seasons tbh.

[Robz4000]

If the Spurs could get Markennan for some of the packages I've seen proposed they would've done so by now tbh. They might still be able to since they're essentially in a staring contest with Ainge; he could just hold out to torpedo whatever other plans/back-ups the Spurs have to try to force their hand. Better to just cut bait and move on to plan B.

[exstatic]

If the Spurs could get Markennan for some of the packages I've seen proposed they would've done so by now tbh. They might still be able to since they're essentially in a staring contest with Ainge; he could just hold out to torpedo whatever other plans/back-ups the Spurs have to try to force their hand. Better to just cut bait and move on to plan B.

Or, Ainge is desperately trying to wait out the clock on Devonte’s contract to see if any other credible offers appear. That’s his deadline for our offer, and if he accepts, it will be with an hour or less left on the guarantee/cut deadline. Fasten your seatbelts.

[Wilt Chamberlain]

Or, Ainge is desperately trying to wait out the clock on Devonte’s contract to see if any other credible offers appear. That’s his deadline for our offer, and if he accepts, it will be with an hour or less left on the guarantee/cut deadline. Fasten your seatbelts.

What is Ainge limited by exactly and when is the deadline?

[Chinook]

If the Spurs could get Markennan for some of the packages I've seen proposed they would've done so by now tbh. They might still be able to since they're essentially in a staring contest with Ainge; he could just hold out to torpedo whatever other plans/back-ups the Spurs have to try to force their hand. Better to just cut bait and move on to plan B.

I don't know that the Spurs want to -- or should want to -- do this. I think it makes more sense for them to go into the year to see how much improvement the team shows with Paul and the react to that. If they're still in tanking condition, trade Paul and hope to not up the draft. If they're showing progress, keep Paul and use some of of the expirings and assets to snag a guy at the deadline. Mark, Ingram, Randle, Butler and others -- they won't all have been extended. The Spurs can pay expiring price for them and still retain the option value to go in a different direction during the summer.

I'd still like them to do the Lopez trade if possible. It seems like another "level-up" move that could be tech'd into a tank if need be.

[Chinook]

Or, Ainge is desperately trying to wait out the clock on Devonte’s contract to see if any other credible offers appear. That’s his deadline for our offer, and if he accepts, it will be with an hour or less left on the guarantee/cut deadline. Fasten your seatbelts.

There's not really anything special about Graham's contract. The Spurs can complete a Mark trade whether they waive Devonte, guarantee him or trade him.

[Obstructed_View]

If they're asking for 5 firsts and 5 swaps time to wash their hands of it imo.

The Spurs don't have to give Utah what they ask for, they just have to offer more than anybody else.

[Obstructed_View]

If the Spurs could get Markennan for some of the packages I've seen proposed they would've done so by now tbh. They might still be able to since they're essentially in a staring contest with Ainge; he could just hold out to torpedo whatever other plans/back-ups the Spurs have to try to force their hand. Better to just cut bait and move on to plan B.

Ainge is welcome to take someone else's lame package. He's welcome to keep his superstar who will up his tanking plans and sign with the Spurs for free next summer.

See how that works?

[Wilt Chamberlain]

I don't know that the Spurs want to -- or should want to -- do this. I think it makes more sense for them to go into the year to see how much improvement the team shows with Paul and the react to that. If they're still in tanking condition, trade Paul and hope to not up the draft. If they're showing progress, keep Paul and use some of of the expirings and assets to snag a guy at the deadline. Mark, Ingram, Randle, Butler and others -- they won't all have been extended. The Spurs can pay expiring price for them and still retain the option value to go in a different direction during the summer.

I'd still like them to do the Lopez trade if possible. It seems like another "level-up" move that could be tech'd into a tank if need be.

This is decision making surrendering to fear.

Spurs controlled their tank all season and ended the season on a tear instead of improving their lottery odds. I am not sure what another year of evaluation is going to bring. It would seem the Spurs already have theirs.

[Robz4000]

Ainge is welcome to take someone else's lame package. He's welcome to keep his superstar who will up his tanking plans and sign with the Spurs for free next summer.

See how that works?

Doubt he comes here unless the Spurs trade for him tbh.