***** The Official 2014 Avante Football Thread *****

[NFO]

translation

So tell me Avante, who were the best white backs with some speed and wiggle? If anyone would know it's you.

You still need a better translator then, your translation skills appear to be getting poorer.

I picked up on this guy while he was in HS, I expected big things out of him. He left Texas for Michigan, nope! Then he ended up at Rice, nope! Then...poof!

I like watching McGuffie highlights too. This one is my favorite.

[Avante]

Not a fan of the combine at all. It's a very bad way to do things.

Football is all about desire/need to excell. It's not about the standing long jump and silly like that. You go with game footage, football scenarios.

Jerry Rice was no sprinter, his 40 time was weak. So??? Now look at Olympian sprinter Jeff Demps who can't find a team to play for. Not that he shouldn't be given a shot as a slot receiver instead of a running back.

Look at Dri Archer, the fastest player in his draft, why isn't he starring with Pitt?

Who saw Alfred Morris doing what he has? Doug Martin?

[Avante]

Remember how Russell Wilson and Andrew Luck walked right in and took off? Let's see what other rookie QB's can do that?

It is not that common.

[Avante]

Al you.....speed means nothing....check out the combine and how important those 40's are. Trust me a 4.65 for a wide receiver will cost him big $$$$$$$ compared to a 4.35.

[Avante]

Looks like yet another first for Russell Wilson. The guy just keeps piling up never done befores, wow~~~

The first fully guranteed contract.

Let's keep score....

First NFC QB to throw 26 tds in a rookie season
First under six foot QB to win a SB
First QB to pass for 300/run for a 100 in a game
Fist second year QB to have two 100 passing ratings
First QB to go 10-1 vs other SB winning QB's.
First QB to play in two SB's in his first three seasons
First QB to start 56 games in three seasons
First QB to win six playoff games in their first three seasons
First player ever to sign a fully guranteed contract

[Clipper Nation]

That contract is going to be a disaster.

[Avante]

That contract is going to be a disaster.

Dude, if he never does anything again he's already accomplished more in just three seasons than your Chargers have in over five decades.

He's already won more SB's than...

Tobin Rote
John Hadl
Dan Fouts
Stan Humphries
Philip Rivers

COMBINED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

More SB wins than how many franchises? How many HOF QB's?

got, the guy is 26 years old, now think ya dumb .

[Clipper Nation]

Nope. The team accomplished that in spite of their game-manager quarterback because he was inexpensive, so the rest of the roster could be stacked. Give Struggle a big-money guaranteed contract and the decline starts now.

[Avante]

Nope. The team accomplished that in spite of their game-manager quarterback because he was inexpensive, so the rest of the roster could be stacked. Give Struggle a big-money guaranteed contract and the decline starts now.

Nope? Nope what? Has Russell Wilson not already accompished more than your Chargers and a ton of other teams and Hall of Fame QB's? And it only took him three seasons. , actually just two.

Dude, the Seahawks don't need to win another game. And RW could retire tomorrow, the bottom line ya ing got is this.

Russell Wilson/Seahawks Superbowls champs.

That can't be said about...

Warren Moon
Buffalo Bills
Dan Fouts
Detroit Lions
Jim Kelly
Cleveland Browns
Andrew Luck
San Diego Chargers
Matthew Stafford
Boomer Esiason
Donovan McNabb
Dan Marino
Sonny Jurgenson
Ken Anderson
Minnesota Vikings
Fran Tarkenton
Tony Romo
Philly Eagles
Atlanta Falcons
Randall Cunningham
John Hadl
Matt Ryan
Houston Texans
Tennessee ans
Jacksonville Jaguars
Philip Rivers
Carolina Panthers

[Avante]

I do get a kick out of this place soooo many rookies.

Remember....TOM BRADY IS DONE!

Remember....NO SB WINNING TEAM CAN WIN A...........

Remember...The Seahawks hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!! (at 3-3)

Remember....Tony Romo sucks. (after week one)

Hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hopefully you little s learned something in 2014....SLOW THE DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...ok? Stop ing over reacting to everything on a weekly basis. This is not the NCAA, ok? All these pro team are trying to do is win a division...NOT EVERY ING GAME..ok? yes they pick and choose their energy out puts and what games need to be won. And when they are sitting pretty and can ease up. So stop acting like a deranged banty rooster over a game or a couple...ok?

Remember...hey Avante your picks suck, 0-3 and minus 330, hahaha!!!!!!!
As I....slow down it does get easier. Well how did that go, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The season starts after Turkey Day, ok? Remember that.

[Avante]

My first 2015 prediction.

It will be around week 6, one of the good teams will be 2-4 and it will be....THEY SUCK!!!!!!! THEY'RE DONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FIRE THE COACH!!!!!!!!!!!!! NO QB~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Then at week 8 they are 4-4 then 6-4 then....

Hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Clipper Nation]

Has Russell Wilson not already accompished more than your Chargers and a ton of other teams and Hall of Fame QB's? And it only took him three seasons. , actually just two.

Again, the team accomplished those playoff runs in spite of their quarterback ting the bed repeatedly. The rest of the roster could be stacked enough to hide Struggle's shortcomings as much as possible because he was still on his cheap third-round rookie contract. When he gets his new 100% guaranteed big-money contract, though, his supporting cast will have to get broken up and he will get exposed when he finally has to shoulder the responsibilities of a franchise QB.

[Avante]

Again, the team accomplished those playoff runs in spite of their quarterback ting the bed repeatedly. The rest of the roster could be stacked enough to hide Struggle's shortcomings as much as possible because he was still on his cheap third-round rookie contract. When he gets his new 100% guaranteed big-money contract, though, his supporting cast will have to get broken up and he will get exposed when he finally has to shoulder the responsibilities of a franchise QB.

Why do you keep ignoring the fact nobody has more GWD's since he came in the league? Why totally ignore his stats which are great? Why continue to ignore the fact he's never had a great receiving gang? Why keep acting totally stupid over the fact he's been a success everywhere he's played? Why act like you've never seen his highlight video which is...WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't think you have a clue what's going on here. The guy is doing things never seen before. This isn't just another QB on a great team, how you fail to see this is amazing. Dummy, Seattle runs the read option, ok, do you understand this at all?

Dude, do you understand stuff like comp%, passer rating, QBR at all? Do you have any clue at all about how rare it is to see a young guy step right in and do what he's done? CN, you appear to live in a fantasy world all your very own, a world where everyone is a got or stupid or this or that, constant negavity 100% of the time, do you ever stop and actually pay any attention at all to what is actually going on?

Pete Carroll is a winner, Russell Wilson is a winner you are a stupid got.

[Clipper Nation]

Pete Carroll's a winner. Struggle's a minor role player on a winning team.

[Avante]

I've done this before, so what?

Top RB's for each team, in my opinion. Not just about numbers.

Niners...Frank Gore, Roger Craig, Joe "The Jet" Perry, Hugh "The King" McElhenny
Rams...Eric erson, Marshall Faulk, Steven Jackson, Bass
Seahawks...Shawn Alexander, Marshawn Lynch, Curt Warner, Chris Warren
Cards...Ottis Anderson, Ollie Matson, John David Crow, Terry Metcalf
Packers...Jim Taylor, Ahman Green, Paul Hornung, John Brockington
Vikes...Adrian Peterson, Robert Smith, Chuck Foreman, Tommy Mason
Lions...Barry Sanders, Billy Sims, Nick Pietrasonte, Mel Farr
Bears...Walter Payton, Gale Sayers, Matt Forte, Neal Anderson
Cowboys...Emmitt Smitt, Tony Dorsett, Don Perkins, Calvin Hill
Eagles...Wilbert Montgomery, Brian Westbrook, Lesaun McCoy, Timmy Brown
Redskins...John Riggins, Larry Brown, Clinton Portis, Stephen Davis
Giants...Tiki Barber, Rodney Hampton, Frank Gifford, Joe Morris
Falcons...Gerald Riggs,William Andrews, Warrick Dunn, Jamal Anderson
Saints...Deuce McAlister, George Rogers, Dalton Hillard, Ruben Mayes
Buc's...James Wilder, Mike Alstott, Cadillac Williams, Michael Pittman (Martin)
Panthers...DeAngelo Williams, Jonathan Stewart, DeShaun Foster, Tim Biakabutuka
Raiders...Marcus Allen, Bo Jackson, Clem Daneils, Mark Van Eeghan
Chargers...Ladainian Tomlinson, Paul Lowe, Marion Butts, Natrone Means
Chiefs...Jamaal Charles, Christian Okoye, Priest Holmes, Abner Haynes
Broncos...Terrell Owens, Floyd Little, Otis Armstrong, Sammy Winder
Jets...Curtis Martin, Freeman McNeil, Emerson Boozer, Matt Snell
Bills...Thurman Thomas, O.J.Simpson, Cookie Gilchrist, Joe Cribbs
Pats...Sam Cunningham, Jim Nance, Tony Collins, Larry Garron
Dolphins...Larry Csonka, Ricky Williams, Mercury Morris, Ronnie Brown
Colts..Edgerrin James, Lenny Moore, Lydell Mitc , Alan Ameche
Jags..Fred Taylor, Maurice Jones Drew, James Stewart
Oilers/ ans...Earl Campbell, Eddie George, Chris Johnson, Lorenzo White
Texans...Arian Foster, Domanick Williams, Steve Slaton, Ron Dayne
Steelers...Jerome Bettis, Franco Harris, John Henry Johnson, Willie Parker (Bell)
Browns...Jim Brown, Leroy Kelly, Marion Motley, Mike Pruitt
Bengals...Corey Dillon, James Brooks, Pete Johnson, Rudi Johnson

I can't ignore Hercshel Walker, his USFL days were amazing and he is in the top 50 all time NFL rushers, he just never stayed in one place for very long.

[Avante]

The forgotten Seahawk

fast forward to 20



He was out of tiny Furman college. Not sure what Division that is or where it's at. And I know these things..

[Avante]

Pete Carroll's a winner. Struggle's a minor role player on a winning team.

Damn you're dumb.


Dude, 7-9 7-9 before RW showed up. Two pro bowls in three seasons.

I'll pass on all the things he's done nobody else ever has, you don't appear to understand any of that, yep, too dumb.

Do even know what QBR is?

A minor role player becoming histories first totally guaranteed contract, boy that's some role he plays, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!

Do you work at being stupid?

[Avante]

The best undrafted offense

QB...Warren Moon
RB...Cookie Gilchrist
RB...Priest Holmes
WR...Wes Welker
WR...Rod Smith
TE...Antonio Gates

I would do the worst drafted offense but those guys were so bad you wouldn't have everd heard of any of them.

[Avante]

Russell Wilson vs Dan Marino first three seasons

Wilson's playoff success on a whole other level as is his wins.

Comp %

Marino 58.4, 64.2, 59.3
RW 64.1, 63.1. anorher 63.1

RW advantage

TD's

Marino 98
RW 72

Marino advantage

INT's

Marino 54
RW 26

RW advantage

Passer rating

Marino 96.0, 108.9, 84.1
RW 100.0, 101.2, 95.0

RW advantage

Looks like RW to me, anyone wanna try someone else?

So far RW has downed Cam Newton, Tom Brady, Joe Montana, Joe Flacco, Kurt Warner, Aaron Rodgers, and Dan Marino.

Who else?

There is nobody with more wins, playoff success.

I do get a chuckle out of this totally stupid...."he has a RB and a defense"...hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!! the fact he has no receivers and a ton of HOF QB's also had a RB/defense. the fact he left the college game as the all time passing leader. the fact he never rode the bench for one second. the fact he;s had more 4th quarter game winnig drives than anyone since he's came in the league. Never seen so many who know so little about the game as I see here. It's amazing, the...DUH!...is deafening.

Anyone wanna see how badly he kicks Andrew "INT" Luck's ass? Does that er look goofy or what? I can't believe someone hasn't told him...."dude ya simply don't have the head for a beard, ok?"

[NFO]

So far RW has downed Cam Newton, Tom Brady, Joe Montana, Joe Flacco, Kurt Warner, Aaron Rodgers, and Dan Marino.

Can you please show me where RW won a SB MVP trophy in his first 3 years????

Pretty sure he won LVP in this past SB with that beautiful 1 yard INT.

[Avante]

Kurt Warner only played in 27 games his first three seasons. We can stop right there. Ya see RW walked right in and never sat on a bench, he's played in more game than any QB in history after three seasons.

Who was that guy who started every game as a rookie, won a playoff game, started every game his second season and won a SB then came within a foot of winning another SB in his third? Who is that guy who never sat on a bench and has played in 8 playoff games in three seasons?

[Avante]

Hmmmm?

[Avante]

I started to compare RW's first three seasons to Philip Rivers but he only started 16 games. Then I thought...Drew Brees, but he only started 27 games.

So down goes two more.

Can anyone compare with this guy? Keep in mind he's played in 56 games. How many games did Aaron Rodgers sit on a bench? Tom Brady played in how many games his first three seasons?

[NFO]

Kurt Warner only played in 27 games his first three seasons. We can stop right there. Ya see RW walked right in and never sat on a bench, he's played in more game than any QB in history after three seasons.

Who was that guy who started every game as a rookie, won a playoff game, started every game his second season and won a SB then came within a foot of winning another SB in his third? Who is that guy who never sat on a bench and has played in 8 playoff games in three seasons?

But where is RW's SB MVP trophy????

Can you post a picture of it??

oh wait, you can't

[Avante]

But where is RW's SB MVP trophy????

Can you post a picture of it??

oh wait, you can't

Let me guess...bi-polar?

Dude, RW stepped right off the plane and took over, ok? Kurt Warner didn't do that at all....ok? I;m looking for a ....ROOKIE!!!!!!!...who became a starter in game one....OK?

Wow~~~~~