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    Will be interesting to see if Wama ever gets some competent coaching in his NBA career.

    Fabulous game vs MINN.

    Unreal how much he is held back by Granda Power Trip Senile and parts of this roster.

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    I think his real take is: play him with a real PG, period. It’s a view shared by many here.

    Also, if the Sochan at PG things is supposedly for better D, that doesn’t seem to be working either based on recent performances. Not because of him per se. I still think the answer longer terms requires Keldon going to the bench.
    Sending keldon to the bench is only the right thing to do if Sochan can shoot well enough to play SF. he can’t. Because Wemby is definitely not playing Center.

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    blame is to be shared. the team misses easy looks to him, a lot. and that's on them. im sure nobody here wants him trying to dance from 22 feet out. so when he does duck into position, or runs the break and has a clear rim-rim... feed him the ball. and they miss a lot of those

    then wemby is at fault because he allows those missed opportunities to frustrate him to a degree that next time he has the ball, he plays like he's antoine walker and jacks up bad contested jumpers.

    he has a right to be frustrated, but cant let it get to him and cause him to make bad decisions, or play lackadaisical defense. he's showing some of the "muh touches" syndrome and i really hope pop isnt too scared to coach that out of him. at the same time, pop has to make more of an emphasis for the offense to run through those actions that lead to wemby getting isolated down low.

    if pops master plan is just to have all the players out there figure it out among themselves, then im not quite sure why we are paying him to coach
    This is such a great take and exactly what I read from his body language. I too noticed Wemby takes a lot of frustration shots after getting missed on offense for a few plays.


    As for Pop, he’s always had cerebral players who could “figure it out” and was never some kind of basketball mastermind. He was a relationship builder who kept Hall of Famers playing in a small market. He’s never had to coach up low BBIQ players.

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    Victor very much seems like a momentum type player. Once he makes a big play or two, you can visibly see his body language change and he feels more engaged with the game. He needs to work on having that sort of motor/ferocity more consistently but damn has he been impressive in spurts…going to be scary if/when he puts it all together + has a better surrounding cast to help out.

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    29 points, 9 rebounds, 4 assists, 4 blocks, 1 steal, 3 turnovers in 35 minutes.

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    Victor very much seems like a momentum type player. Once he makes a big play or two, you can visibly see his body language change and he feels more engaged with the game. He needs to work on having that sort of motor/ferocity more consistently but damn has he been impressive in spurts…going to be scary if/when he puts it all together + has a better surrounding cast to help out.
    Bro is just like me fr

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    29 points, 9 rebounds, 4 assists, 4 blocks, 1 steal, 3 turnovers in 35 minutes.
    BTW one more indication that he's the next one to have a quadruple double if he can do this in his 8th game ever.

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    Back in May KAT was wondering what it'd be like when Wemby plays against him.



    Well now we know... so far this season their respective stats are remarkably similar, even in percentages (I'd give the edge to Victor tho, less minutes, way more blocks, etc...).



    Reminder one is a franchise player in his prime at 28, the other a teenager with less than 10 games in their NBA career. Let's you put things in perspective

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    one minute left

    Keldon tries a 6 foot jumper from the lane, and in typical Keldon 4th qtr performance, ball not in the cylinder, bounces off the front of the rim.

    VW is standing ALL ALONE several feet away to the side,

    SPECTATING Keldon's miss,

    makes NO move to grab the rebound which was sorta in his direction.

    Heat grabs the rebound uncontested

    That Boy Don't Play Right

    WTF

    He needs to instructed, trained to crash the boards, NOT to spectate from no man's land every damn shot?

    WTF WTF WTF

    The VW cultists here lost in the hype, rather than watching VW play badly.

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    Keldon tries a 6 foot jumper from the lane, and in typical Keldon 4th qtr performance, ball not in the cylinder, bounces off the front of the rim.

    VW is standing ALL ALONE several feet away to the side,

    SPECTATING Keldon's miss,

    makes NO move to grab the rebound which was sorta in his direction.

    Heat grabs the rebound uncontested

    That Boy Don't Play Right

    WTF

    He needs to instructed, trained to crash the boards, NOT to spectate from no man's land every damn shot?

    WTF WTF WTF

    The VW cultists here lost in the hype, rather than watching VW play badly.
    I actually agree. I notice these things as well. Also he has had several opportunities throughout the games to help a teammate contest or block a shot underneath the basket but he just stands there and his teammates get scored on. He has rare height and ability to where I’m sure he can help block those shots unlike any other player but he’s either not willing to do it or he’s trying to save energy.

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    You're harsh on Wemby

    Yes he could do more, but he's already doing more than expected.

    You don't realise the energy requiered to be active on offense and defense all the time especially for a 7'4 rookie. Trying to block every shots is tiering him up quick so he;s saving energy on some plays on D.

    It's only his 10th game, he's not strong enough for the NBA rythm and still "improvising" most of the time on O without a PG or any veterans to help/teach

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    Keldon tries a 6 foot jumper from the lane,

    Vassell. Not Keldon.

    VW is standing ALL ALONE several feet away to the side,
    ..:

    Victor knows things you don’t. Namely, his defender goes where he goes.

    When Vassell drove to the middle, Victor moved away, to try to draw Adebayo away from the middle. That is why Victor moved outward. It was the right action to take.

    As far as crashing the board, Collins did that. He crashed from the top. It appeared to be by design, where Vassell would take the shot, Collins would crash to try to follow, and Victor would stay clear to help with transition defense.

    If Victor had crashed the board too, it would have meant three Spurs tangled up in the lane, and only two able to get back on defense against a possible break.

    You’ve picked the wrong action to criticize.

    That Boy Don't Play Right

    Or perhaps you don’t criticize right.

    However, yes, I do know what you mean. I’ve seen it too, that Victor can be uninterested in fighting for a rebound. This particular action isn’t a good example, but valid examples certainly do exist, no question. It calls for some serious coaching.

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    You're harsh on Wemby

    Yes he could do more, but he's already doing more than expected.

    You don't realise the energy requiered to be active on offense and defense all the time especially for a 7'4 rookie. Trying to block every shots is tiering him up quick so he;s saving energy on some plays on D.

    It's only his 10th game, he's not strong enough for the NBA rythm and still "improvising" most of the time on O without a PG or any veterans to help/teach
    he is often seen, ON BOTH ENDS, uselessly lollgagging around in no man's land. from there, he can't defend the basket, get RBs, block shots, alter shots, opposition players drive right past him while he waches, can't challenge 3pt shooters,

    He moves effortslessly, have yet to see if blow hard, in excellent shape, when he busts his ass and needs a blow, ok, but he's not hustling.

    He would have to move less, conserve energy if he stayed low and dangerous instead of calling for the ball to shoot 3s at 30% rate.

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    I saw that too but I attribute it to coaches telling him not to commit to everything because that puts him in foul trouble. He wasn't doing this last season in France.

    I think he's currently just trying to find the right balance.

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    He parks in the corner when that's his role in the offense. The rest of the time he's moving with purpose. I haven't seen him lollygag a single time when he's on the court.

    Anybody else think he's eventually gonna start getting calls for all the holding and grabbing they do to him in the paint?

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    You're harsh on Wemby

    Yes he could do more, but he's already doing more than expected.

    You don't realise the energy requiered to be active on offense and defense all the time especially for a 7'4 rookie. Trying to block every shots is tiering him up quick so he;s saving energy on some plays on D.

    It's only his 10th game, he's not strong enough for the NBA rythm and still "improvising" most of the time on O without a PG or any veterans to help/teach
    Yeah he's doing amazing. The only thing I'd really like to change is him pulling up for threes off the dribble when guarded early in the shot clock. I definitely don't want him to stop shooting the three since it's going to be a deadly weapon for him and you don't want to put a guy of his talent in a box but just wish he'd cut down a bit on the really low percentage stuff. I think his jumper though and his footwork on it looks better than it did in preseason, and far better than in summer league.

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    I saw that too but I attribute it to coaches telling him not to commit to everything because that puts him in foul trouble. He wasn't doing this last season in France.

    I think he's currently just trying to find the right balance.
    there was one minute left, avoiding foul trouble?

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    started 0-7 from distance but hit his final 2 shots to finish 2-9. have to admire the confidence to keep shooting at least.

    his shot selection will improve and he will learn when to attack close outs as the season progresses. had a few opportunities for a pump fake and drive but settled knowing he can easily shoot over his defender.

    definitely has some of the kobe mindset offensively

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    started 0-7 from distance but hit his final 2 shots to finish 2-9. have to admire the confidence to keep shooting at least.

    his shot selection will improve and he will learn when to attack close outs as the season progresses. had a few opportunities for a pump fake and drive but settled knowing he can easily shoot over his defender.

    definitely has some of the kobe mindset offensively
    theres just no point to settle for that quality of a shot (a quasi-contested 3... nobody is really contesting his 3's) that early in the shot clock, when he can get that identical shot literally any time he wants. like sure, clock winding down, offense sputters, and they just toss the ball to him at the 3 point line with 6 seconds on the clock. sure, set your guy up and shoot a pull up 3 over him then.

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    theres just no point to settle for that quality of a shot (a quasi-contested 3... nobody is really contesting his 3's) that early in the shot clock, when he can get that identical shot literally any time he wants. like sure, clock winding down, offense sputters, and they just toss the ball to him at the 3 point line with 6 seconds on the clock. sure, set your guy up and shoot a pull up 3 over him then.
    true, i agree. like i said as the season progresses and he watches film, sees where he can put the ball on the floor, and slows the game down mentally he will cut down on those bad shots early in the clock.

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    I really, really hope Vic diverges from being a Towns/Aldridge type.

    He loves a jumpshot though.

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    the thing he has over those 2 is his intelligence, mindset, and drive to be one of the greats. as his body matures and he learns to trust himself inside he will discover dominating the paint is the key to him unlocking his full potential.

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    I really, really hope Vic diverges from being a Towns/Aldridge type.

    He loves a jumpshot though.
    Im more ok with Vic emulating Dirk, those drive and fadeaways were killer

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    Still shoots WAY too many jumpers

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    The excessive 3pts shooting isn't a big issue to solve, it's probably one of his (very few) immature sides. He knows it imo and as soon as he'll know what he has to do and his real position (once Pop closes this "we're just watching him" era) it'll be fine. Mind that a lot of those come at the end of the possession as a last resort.

    I'm more concerned by his (lack of) athleticism and ability to play that many minutes with the requiered energy especially on D.

    He seems to have alreday lost some weight compared to his pre season form and it's only been 10 games...

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