i'd explore a trade down but if unavailable i'd take the best player and figure it out later. somebody will probably get moved. but basically the bet is that the return you'd get for Castle (if he develops as expected) or Harper would exceed the value of Bailey
the kings famously took haliburton when they already had fox. the return for haliburton exceeded the next big taken that draft, isaiah stewart
he's been mocked in the 20's pretty consistently. he's older and thats always a perceived risk on ceiling, and he's having a 5th year breakout... but he's been a good shooter for a couple of years and his FT% has been trending up as well. he's a reasonable defender. he's a reasonable floor pick. had a nice game today.
I see why he would want Harper. But for me, you gotta take Bailey with the #2 pick. He has the size and athleticism and the shooting that we need. I don’t feel good about teaching him basketball. But hey just bc we failed teaching KJ, Vassell, and Sochan how to play basketball doesn’t mean we always will.
Poach the best player development coaches from notoriously cheap Detroit and Cleveland and draft Bailey and we may our frontcourt for the next decade. we might have our team for the next decade if we sign Naz Reid too.
Yeah i mean from fit/playability perspective Bailey is #2 to Flagg. His archetype is basically exactly what we need. Someone to replace HB as a bigger and more athletic version of him
Harper just looks like such a sure bet to be very good in a mul ude of ways that I’d just take the value even if fit isn’t there.
Where would Edgecombe have been drafted if he had been on last year’s draft?
I like Nique Clifford but not for the Spurs I think there’s better options.
However I think Clifford could easily go to the Magic at 15 I think that’s a good fit there as a 3 and D 2 guard with a little bit of self creation. KCP has been awful for the Magic he’s only really looked like a quality role player next to Jokic and the LeBron/AD Lakers.
How can you trust that shooting? It’s 34% with a sub 70% FT.
I take Harper over Bailey without hesitation. Bailey has talent, but with him he's like the meme with Peter Parker lifting his glasses. People think they're seeing Kevin Durant. I don't really have a great comp for him, but I think a team will have to build around him a bit to cover for his inadequacies and give him a shot diet that causes problems elsewhere. Give him a lot of shots and keep him on the floor despite causing problems everywhere.
I don't see a winning player, while Harper has more of that factor.
Proctor shot 13-16 on 3s in the first two games. (that's a ridiculous 81%)
February and March (15 games) he is now 15.4 PPG (45% 3s). playing decent defense as well.
mocks still have him at the end of 2nd round. so at pick 40 he would be a nice option, could replace someone like Branham.
but if he keeps playing like this, he will likely climb back into 1st round.
He most likely will go first.Alot of these other college players didnt look good at all and could
see them returning to college since they most likely hurt their value.
I personally think he'll be gone in the 1st round. I really like him here though.
Proctor has that "he's more talented than he looks - even on a good team" vibe and will probably be a 20ish to late first round pick. If he could fall to the spurs it would be a no brainer. An easy Branham replacement.
He really strikes me as not a PG. I had a better vibe from Castle last year, and almost no one thought he was a PG. This guy has a 3GA rate of .611. That’s a lot of time spent outside the arc chucking up long shots for someone supposedly running the offense. Both his assists and USG% are way too low for a PG. if he is really 6’5”, he could find a place as a smallish scoring guard. If he’s really like 6’3”, his outcomes become diminished.
He was used more as a PG a year or two ago. I see him as a combo guard that could easily be part of a Castle, Fox, Proctor 3 man rotation. I do agree though that his height/length will have a significant effect on that. If he measures short he would have a hard time being on the court with Fox.
McCain measured 6'2" (w/o shoes) at the combine. telling from the comparison in pictures from the 2024 Duke team, Proctor should measure some 2" taller.
New draft screed by Wasserman
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...-ncaa-sweet-16
Isn’t Harper at 33%? Neither one is a lights out shooter. But both of them are willing to shoot high volume 3s. Again I’m not against Harper. Before the season starter we that’s who I wanted on the Spurs. But with Castle, we don’t really need Harper.
I also am kinda old school and if all things are fairly close, I’d rather go with size.
I'm as high on the Fox/Castle combo as anyone... but I'm still of the mind that this team doesn't have enough talent to not take the BPA, regardless of position. Even if it were a C clearly at the top of the draft (which it's not), I'd take that guy and figure it out. I like Bailey's fit here, but I think Harper is a clear tier above Ace, and I'd have no hesitation adding Harper and figuring it out. You would need one of Castle or Harper to agree to a super 6th man role for the next 4-5 years (which they might not like as it limits their ability to maximize their rookie extension) - but a 3-man rotation of Fox/Castle/Harper could give you elite guard play for 48 minutes.
i mean Harper/Castle backcourt would be nasty, but we also have Fox
yep if you have 2 prospects very similarly scored, you can put one above the other based on need
but harper is a tier above bailey, and you take the clearly better player and worry about the rest later
This would be a great problem to have. The matchup combos with those 3 could be nightmare inducing for other teams. Gotta take best player available and that has always been the Spurs mantra, whether we agree with the pick or not.
One of Harper/castle can play minutes at the 3.
Already thinking I undersold Bryant (too caught up in current mock drafts). I'd swap him and McNeeley, in terms of tiers of most likely Spurs pick.
Conventional wisdom seems to be that because they're transitioning to win now mode that they'll prefer a more plug and play type than Richardson or Bryant might be, but the reality is Paul out, backup C TBD in could be the only rotational change.
You take Harper and figure it out. Bailey is fool's gold. Harper-Castle-Fox can work. If they can't, you get rid of Fox. It's not like he's some can't-miss talent or anything. He's useful but has serious flaws.
Harper could be your perimeter offensive workhorse, taking a lot off of Wemby.
As for Bailey, I think I agree with Bleacher Report, above, that I take Edgecombe before I take Bailey. At baseline Edgecombe can be a strong defender and his shooting is already better efficiency (than both Rutgers players).
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