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    Yeah it's a tough proposition given the age of Hill and Millsap, but play the scenarios out. It doesn't look good out there, as far as fit and skill to price. I'm looking at Hill and Millsap as bargains for the right price but in fairness, unless Millsap decided he wants to go to best chance of winning mixed with best contract we don't really have a chance. Hill seems like a logical solution at point and should come at a bargain but you never know. Winning + $$$ we have a chance, but just $$$, we could only get one and I'm not sure they are worth it or anyone sans CP3 or Hayward...

    As for Anderson and Bertans, you are right. They are both 4s but I think Anderson would be first in the pecking order due to time spent. PATFO really gonna have to pull a miracle out of their hat as far as bigs go. Maybe they see Milutinov and Gasol for centers which you would need one more.

    Hill/Murray/Parker
    Green/White/Hanga/Forbes
    Leonard/Simmons/Blossomgame
    Gasol/Anderson/Bertans
    Dedmon/Milutinov

    ??? I mean what game are they playing. Is it by ear. Who'd you rather have Millsap or Hill for the same price? Either way with just one, I don't think that's enough help for Leonard, WCF or less.

    I dunno, Free agency taking too long.
    For equal money, I would probably take Millsap. Our frontcourt is in shambles, and I have been an advocate of giving the keys to Murray since the middle of last season. Also, I cannot imagine Deadman returning - actually less imaginable than LMA returning.

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    I really want to know what the Spurs are looking at doing. This wait until July 1st seems like such a long way away.

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    I really want to know what the Spurs are looking at doing. This wait until July 1st seems like such a long way away.
    Yep. The wait this off-season seems interminable.

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    I really want to know what the Spurs are looking at doing. This wait until July 1st seems like such a long way away.
    I 2nd this notion. Only reason I come to ST these days is to see LMA being traded. I'm not happy about Danny at all but O'well.

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    I called it ages ago. Although I thought it would have been Griffin and PG.

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    Don't know if old news but:

    http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/1...state-warriors

    Seven teams hope to sign Andre Iguodala away from Warriors


    Andre Iguodala has become the foremost target in an attempt weaken the Golden State Warriors' chokehold on the NBA, league sources have told ESPN.
    The Minnesota Timberwolves, San Antonio Spurs, LA Clippers, Philadelphia 76ers, Orlando Magic, Brooklyn Nets and Utah Jazz are among the teams that are interested in the 2015 NBA Finals MVP, sources tell ESPN.

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    ESPN's Marc Stein first reported that the Spurs are attempting to create salary-cap flexibility to pursue Chris Paul this summer and a combo acquisition of the Clippers' All-Star point guard and Iguodala has been discussed internally, sources say. The Spurs have made LaMarcus Aldridge and Danny Green available for trades, according to sources.

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    Dam MODs. rjv. The no-fun zone.

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    they would have to give bradley and/or crowder and/or Smart because they can't keep everybody next year( in 2018/2019)
    Okay? I'm sure they're fine with letting go of Crowder and Bradley for PG and Hayward.

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    Don't know if old news but:

    http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/1...state-warriors

    Seven teams hope to sign Andre Iguodala away from Warriors

    Would not suck. Iggy would be really nice here off the bench

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    Any chance we can deal LMA to jazz/clippers if that goes down?

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    Don't want to overpay Andre. Just hoping some other team like the 76ers goes all out for him.

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    Spurs should target Millsap and Paul, with Hill as contingency plan.

    If Nuggets, Kings or some other desperate team rumored interested in Millsap, offers something in $30M per range, then forget it. But if they're closer to $25M, if Spurs even got close, I suspect he'd pick them. Not only for chance to win, but he's Spurs material and would be hand in glove fit. Would also help with Paul recruitment.

    3 team trade: to Hawks: Bender or Chriss, to Suns: Aldridge, to Spurs: Millsap. Could even turn it into a 4 teamer, with Bender or Chriss to Jazz and Favors to Hawks.

    Bender or Chriss don't make much sense for win now Spurs, but if Spurs can't reach agreement with established starting PF, they should pursue 3 team trade, where Suns would still get Aldridge and Jazz would still get Bender or Chriss, but Spurs would get Favors (so long as medical staff is confident he regains previous form).

    Then salary dump Green for an '18 1st to sign Paul. If Paul spurns them, then retain Green and turn to Hill. Hopefully, his market ends up being in $20M range. If it's closer to $25M and he's not willing to take less, then forget it.

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    Iggy off the bench lol We would be trading Danny and LMA to make space for him and CP3 like the article suggests. He'd start next to Leonard imo.

    But shoot what about Hill and Iggy for the offseason.

    Bobby Marks wrote in his 20 most valuable free agents that Hill figures to double his salary of 8 mill per and Iggy may fetch around 15 mill. Side note, he said Millsap should get a little more next year than what he got this year.

    Hill/Murray/Forbes/Parker
    Leonard/White/Hanga
    Iggy/Simmons/Blossomgame
    Anderson/Bertans
    Gasol/Milutinov

    Spacing might be an issue, so maybe Bertans could start eventually but if it means making GS weaker and us better, I'm for it.

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    Spurs should target Millsap and Paul, with Hill as contingency plan.

    If Nuggets, Kings or some other desperate team rumored interested in Millsap, offers something in $30M per range, then forget it. But if they're closer to $25M, if Spurs even got close, I suspect he'd pick them. Not only for chance to win, but he's Spurs material and would be hand in glove fit. Would also help with Paul recruitment.

    3 team trade: to Hawks: Bender or Chriss, to Suns: Aldridge, to Spurs: Millsap. Could even turn it into a 4 teamer, with Bender or Chriss to Jazz and Favors to Hawks.

    Bender or Chriss don't make much sense for win now Spurs, but if Spurs can't reach agreement with established starting PF, they should pursue 3 team trade, where Suns would still get Aldridge and Jazz would still get Bender or Chriss, but Spurs would get Favors (so long as medical staff is confident he regains previous form).

    Then salary dump Green for an '18 1st to sign Paul. If Paul spurns them, then retain Green and turn to Hill. Hopefully, his market ends up being in $20M range. If it's closer to $25M and he's not willing to take less, then forget it.
    like it :thumbsup

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    TD21, to be honest while I was all for CP3 initially, I am warming more to PG13. I think he would do more for us against the Dubs and I like the idea of it being a rental. If it works perfectly, heck easy to convince someone to stay with the champ, if it goes badly it clears the cap for the following year's FA class. It will also force Pop to play Dijon more until hopefully MVParker returns. On my FA wish list in order would be KD or Chef (of course but impossible), then PG13, then Boogie, then CP3 then next tier players.

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    Okay? I'm sure they're fine with letting go of Crowder and Bradley for PG and Hayward.
    i'm not sure about bradley but i talk more about their cap flexibility if they take two max players.....

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    Hill/Murray/Forbes/Parker
    Leonard/White/Hanga
    Iggy/Simmons/Blossomgame
    Anderson/Bertans
    Gasol/Milutinov
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    So you've clearned salaries, signed UFA and ended up with Kyle Anderson as your starting power forward ? And why the you want to spend 15 mil on Iggy ?

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    Iggy off the bench lol We would be trading Danny and LMA to make space for him and CP3 like the article suggests. He'd start next to Leonard imo.

    But shoot what about Hill and Iggy for the offseason.

    Bobby Marks wrote in his 20 most valuable free agents that Hill figures to double his salary of 8 mill per and Iggy may fetch around 15 mill. Side note, he said Millsap should get a little more next year than what he got this year.

    Hill/Murray/Forbes/Parker
    Leonard/White/Hanga
    Iggy/Simmons/Blossomgame
    Anderson/Bertans
    Gasol/Milutinov

    Spacing might be an issue, so maybe Bertans could start eventually but if it means making GS weaker and us better, I'm for it.
    Any plan that involves Kyle Anderson starting should be wadded up, thrown in the dumpster, and set on fire.

    Kyle Anderson isn't a starter in this league, and the Warriors would clown his sloth ass in every game until we had to bench him.

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    So you've clearned salaries, signed UFA and ended up with Kyle Anderson as your starting power forward ? And why the you want to spend 15 mil on Iggy ?
    cause he's easily worth that. Just because he plays off the bench in GS doesn't mean he's a bench player for the rest of the league and while his stats don't jump out at you, he performs when it counts. He's a more versatile defender than Danny and a better offensive option as well. Danny makes 10 mill per and was underpaid and you think AI isn't worth 15. get out dude

    As for Anderson, why not? He's earned a shot at the four. Sure he doesn't have a name or anything but in the lineup as a facilitator and keep the ball moving, he could play a Draymond like role im.

    Sorry i struck a nerve, I'm not a GM or anything, just presenting scenarios here. Who knows what the Spurs are thinking.

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    Any plan that involves Kyle Anderson starting should be wadded up, thrown in the dumpster, and set on fire.

    Kyle Anderson isn't a starter in this league, and the Warriors would clown his sloth ass in every game until we had to bench him.
    Well we all know where you stand with Kyle but a few of us thought he might have a chance to start with Aldridge back and now that he's gone, not now?

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    Why do people want Paul so bad... All I hear is how bad of a leader he is... I remember he made it a point not to give Jordan a high five after giving everyone else one. That's not the qualities you want from a highly paid leader!!! But what do I know. I personally think the Spurs will go with G. Hill an I pray so. An then sign a vet.... losing Parker an Mills, that's two pg' s that knows the system. Ain't gonna happen. Pop is getting his "Yes Sir" boy back. He won't bump heads with Hill...

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    Iggy off the bench lol We would be trading Danny and LMA to make space for him and CP3 like the article suggests. He'd start next to Leonard imo.

    But shoot what about Hill and Iggy for the offseason.

    Bobby Marks wrote in his 20 most valuable free agents that Hill figures to double his salary of 8 mill per and Iggy may fetch around 15 mill. Side note, he said Millsap should get a little more next year than what he got this year.

    Hill/Murray/Forbes/Parker
    Leonard/White/Hanga
    Iggy/Simmons/Blossomgame
    Anderson/Bertans
    Gasol/Milutinov

    Spacing might be an issue, so maybe Bertans could start eventually but if it means making GS weaker and us better, I'm for it.
    I saw that. Second time he's suggested Hill gets about or at $16M per and don't know what he means by slight, but I take it to mean Millsap would get in $23-25M per range. Both are significantly less than what's been rumored, but if "all" it costs is about $40M per, Spurs should be all over that, if Paul declines.

    Iguodala doesn't make much sense (one of "big 3" should be a big) and I can't see him leaving Warriors, but it'd be nice to drive price up and put brief scare into those en led, smug pricks. All these mediocre and worse teams might not have capacity, but Spurs would.


    TD21, to be honest while I was all for CP3 initially, I am warming more to PG13. I think he would do more for us against the Dubs and I like the idea of it being a rental. If it works perfectly, heck easy to convince someone to stay with the champ, if it goes badly it clears the cap for the following year's FA class. It will also force Pop to play Dijon more until hopefully MVParker returns. On my FA wish list in order would be KD or Chef (of course but impossible), then PG13, then Boogie, then CP3 then next tier players.
    - '18 free agent class is weak. Sure, Cousins could be attainable, but I can't envision either side having interest. Spurs need to attempt to strike now and not waste a year of Leonard's prime.

    - Murray would more than likely have to be piece in George trade and wouldn't be good fit next to two ball dominant wings anyway.

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    i wonder if sometimes someone from the spurs FO reads this site just for laughs.

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