2025 NBA Draft

[LeBowen]

If we get a #2-5 pick, I'm calling the Pelicans and offering them that pick, Devin and Jeremy for Murphy and Herb.
Instant contenders if Wemby is healthy.

[scott]

New draft screed by Wasserman

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...-ncaa-sweet-16

I always appreciate the pro-player comps in these, because I don't watch a lot of college basketball and when I do it is only for draft purposes.

The comps always help me frame things in a more easy to understand question.

For example, for this team right now would I rather add Andrew Wiggins or MPJ? Oladipo or Brandon Miller? In both those cases, I'm taking the latter of the former - which leads me to put Bailey over Edgecomb (I recognize this isn't an exact science).

It was interesting to me that two of Harper's comps were a guy I'm pumped we just traded for (Fox) and a guy I have thought would be a really nice fit for us in a three-man rotation (Coby White).

I have watched exactly zero tape of Ben Saraf, but the Manu comp is intriguing though seems somewhat lazy. How realistic is that?

I have also seen zero Kam Jones, but that write up has me interested if he somehow felt to us in the 2nd.

I remember some people talking about Adou Thiero earlier in the cycle... he draws a Keldon comparison at 6'8" here... if Keldon were 6'8" (and a little smarter, basketball wise) he'd be pretty rad.

Karaban all the way down to 49 here... fits with my take on him, but I know a lot of people were high on him in the late teens.

Lastly... I'd be interested in Andrej Stojakovic with our SRP if for no other reason than to prevent a Stojakovic from torching again. Do Croatians count in the SpursTalk list of countries where you can just take anyone off the street and they'll be able to shoot?

[scott]

If we get a #2-5 pick, I'm calling the Pelicans and offering them that pick, Devin and Jeremy for Murphy and Herb.
Instant contenders if Wemby is healthy.

One of my favorite NBA fanfic's is where NO lands #1 and then trades somehow trades Zion for #2 (not with us, as I don't want Zion). A Harper/Trey/Herb/Cooper/Missi lineup would be at the top of my LeaguePass rankings.

[baseline bum]

If we get a #2-5 pick, I'm calling the Pelicans and offering them that pick, Devin and Jeremy for Murphy and Herb.
Instant contenders if Wemby is healthy.

JFC I hope they can do better than that for pick #2 - #4 (Spurs can't get #5)

[spurraider21]

I always appreciate the pro-player comps in these, because I don't watch a lot of college basketball and when I do it is only for draft purposes.

The comps always help me frame things in a more easy to understand question.

For example, for this team right now would I rather add Andrew Wiggins or MPJ? Oladipo or Brandon Miller? In both those cases, I'm taking the latter of the former - which leads me to put Bailey over Edgecomb (I recognize this isn't an exact science).

It was interesting to me that two of Harper's comps were a guy I'm pumped we just traded for (Fox) and a guy I have thought would be a really nice fit for us in a three-man rotation (Coby White).

I have watched exactly zero tape of Ben Saraf, but the Manu comp is intriguing though seems somewhat lazy. How realistic is that?

I have also seen zero Kam Jones, but that write up has me interested if he somehow felt to us in the 2nd.

I remember some people talking about Adou Thiero earlier in the cycle... he draws a Keldon comparison at 6'8" here... if Keldon were 6'8" (and a little smarter, basketball wise) he'd be pretty rad.

Karaban all the way down to 49 here... fits with my take on him, but I know a lot of people were high on him in the late teens.

Lastly... I'd be interested in Andrej Stojakovic with our SRP if for no other reason than to prevent a Stojakovic from torching again. Do Croatians count in the SpursTalk list of countries where you can just take anyone off the street and they'll be able to shoot?

yeah i never try to think of player comps as "he will be as good as player x" but it helps contextualize what their path to success at the nba level may look like if things pan out or like you did, try to see how a player may fit on a particular team.

with that said, a lot of the comps in that BR article seem awful. jakucionis being billups? how useful is comparing jase richardson to reed sheppard who has barely been on an NBA court in projecting him?

its also why im generally lower on CMB than others. i may be overthinking it. maybe just take the f'n hooper. but i struggle to see how he works out here. the randle comp is one ive seeing elsewhere (albeit he is a much better defender). but an undersized big (he's a PF) who doesnt shoot very well, it gives me a lot of pause

[spurraider21]

If we get a #2-5 pick, I'm calling the Pelicans and offering them that pick, Devin and Jeremy for Murphy and Herb.
Instant contenders if Wemby is healthy.

agree with bb... seems like an overpay. if it was #4 and we were looking at VJ... makes it more palatable

[baseline bum]

One of my favorite NBA fanfic's is where NO lands #1 and then trades somehow trades Zion for #2 (not with us, as I don't want Zion). A Harper/Trey/Herb/Cooper/Missi lineup would be at the top of my LeaguePass rankings.

God I hope not. Nothing against New Orleans but everyone always gets hurt there and I don't want to see Flagg and Harper never hit their potentials.

[scott]

yeah i never try to think of player comps as "he will be as good as player x" but it helps contextualize what their path to success at the nba level may look like if things pan out or like you did, try to see how a player may fit on a particular team.

with that said, a lot of the comps in that BR article seem awful. jakucionis being billups? how useful is comparing jase richardson to reed sheppard who has barely been on an NBA court in projecting him?

its also why im generally lower on CMB than others. i may be overthinking it. maybe just take the f'n hooper. but i struggle to see how he works out here. the randle comp is one ive seeing elsewhere (albeit he is a much better defender). but an undersized big (he's a PF) who doesnt shoot very well, it gives me a lot of pause

Yeah, a lot of those comps also just made me even more pessimistic about this draft in general

I wouldn't be upset at all if we ended up trading out of both picks, tbh. The Super Friends recent play has actually warmed me up slightly to the idea of largely running it back if we paired them with a new coaching staff... though we still need a starting SF and Devin should be 6th man (though Devin and Keldon are a messy fit off the bench)

[Dejounte]

You take Harper and figure it out. Bailey is fool's gold. Harper-Castle-Fox can work. If they can't, you get rid of Fox. It's not like he's some can't-miss talent or anything. He's useful but has serious flaws.

Harper could be your perimeter offensive workhorse, taking a lot off of Wemby.

As for Bailey, I think I agree with Bleacher Report, above, that I take Edgecombe before I take Bailey. At baseline Edgecombe can be a strong defender and his shooting is already better efficiency (than both Rutgers players).

What was your favorite response to people suggesting Sochan’s replacement should come from the draft?

“LoL aT peOplE thInkiNg a tEEnaGeR wHo HaSnt pLayEd NBa miNutEs is BeTteR thaN aN Nba PlaYer”

[Mr. Body]

I always appreciate the pro-player comps in these, because I don't watch a lot of college basketball and when I do it is only for draft purposes.

The comps always help me frame things in a more easy to understand question.

For example, for this team right now would I rather add Andrew Wiggins or MPJ? Oladipo or Brandon Miller? In both those cases, I'm taking the latter of the former - which leads me to put Bailey over Edgecomb (I recognize this isn't an exact science).

It was interesting to me that two of Harper's comps were a guy I'm pumped we just traded for (Fox) and a guy I have thought would be a really nice fit for us in a three-man rotation (Coby White).

I have watched exactly zero tape of Ben Saraf, but the Manu comp is intriguing though seems somewhat lazy. How realistic is that?

I have also seen zero Kam Jones, but that write up has me interested if he somehow felt to us in the 2nd.

I remember some people talking about Adou Thiero earlier in the cycle... he draws a Keldon comparison at 6'8" here... if Keldon were 6'8" (and a little smarter, basketball wise) he'd be pretty rad.

Karaban all the way down to 49 here... fits with my take on him, but I know a lot of people were high on him in the late teens.

Lastly... I'd be interested in Andrej Stojakovic with our SRP if for no other reason than to prevent a Stojakovic from torching again. Do Croatians count in the SpursTalk list of countries where you can just take anyone off the street and they'll be able to shoot?

Some of those comps are not correct even in passing. Harper is not Fox at all, in any way. And don't fall into the trap of assuming a comp is a straight equivalency. In no way is Bailey as good as Brandon Miller.

You're getting trapped into picking for position over talent. I'd way, way rather pick a high motor excellent defender with good offensive upside in Edgecombe over a guy with terrible shot selection, inability to pass, a below average feel for the game, and iffy defense just because he's taller.

[Mr. Body]

What was your favorite response to people suggesting Sochan’s replacement should come from the draft?

“LoL aT peOplE thInkiNg a tEEnaGeR wHo HaSnt pLayEd NBa miNutEs is BeTteR thaN aN Nba PlaYer”

Not getting your point here. Can you settle down and try again?

[Dejounte]

Not getting your point here. Can you settle down and try again?

Pointing out how you’re a hypocrite. Nothing new. Carry on.

[Mr. Body]

Pointing out how you’re a hypocrite. Nothing new. Carry on.

The post you're replying to doesn't even advocate replacing players. Bro, before you get on a hissy fit, you've got to make a single ounce of sense. You're coming off like a dumb little dumpling.

[Dejounte]

The Spurs need to aim for finding perfect role players as opposed to players who has had their entire basketball life revolve around them. These players will be focused on getting theirs. They need to get their own version of Lu Dort. A 6’4” thicc boi who could defend anybody.

[spurraider21]

Is Furphy still a better pick than Risacher?

[LeBowen]

agree with bb... seems like an overpay. if it was #4 and we were looking at VJ... makes it more palatable

I value contracts a lot, Murphy's is near identical to Devin's and he's a better player.
Jeremy is fundamentally flawed and we have to extend him.

It's maybe an overpay, but more of a general idea, I'm not that interested in adding another guard if we can get legit wings in return.

I fully believe that prime Pop would coach Fox/Castle/?/Barnes/Wemby to 50+ wins next season, with ? being a high end 3-D wing and legit PG, C backups also added to the roster.
Too bad we have Pop's corpse and not prime Pop.

[Knoxxx]

Queen telling the coach he wants the ball during the timeout. He has that Dawg in him. Dude is an offensive Juggernaut. Sign me up. He will develop into a star.

Dude took like 4 steps before that shot.

[Knoxxx]

One of Harper/castle can play minutes at the 3.

Assuming the Spurs make their 3 picks at the current spots, who are your 3 picks?

[exstatic]

Assuming the Spurs make their 3 picks at the current spots, who are your 3 picks?

Too early. After the combine and lottery, I’ll make my picks. Waaaaay too much changes between now and then.

[CGD]

Assuming the Spurs make their 3 picks at the current spots, who are your 3 picks?

If Demin continues to have a good tourney, I have a feeling the Spurs won’t be able to help themselves if they’re picking at 9-10. He’s actually shooting 38% on good volume (5/13) from 3 in the first two games. Passing is insane.

The comps to Giddy (a rumored spurs target) are also noteworthy. Next game v Alabama will be telling.

[SpursBills]

yeah i never try to think of player comps as "he will be as good as player x" but it helps contextualize what their path to success at the nba level may look like if things pan out or like you did, try to see how a player may fit on a particular team.

with that said, a lot of the comps in that BR article seem awful. jakucionis being billups? how useful is comparing jase richardson to reed sheppard who has barely been on an NBA court in projecting him?

its also why im generally lower on CMB than others. i may be overthinking it. maybe just take the f'n hooper. but i struggle to see how he works out here. the randle comp is one ive seeing elsewhere (albeit he is a much better defender). but an undersized big (he's a PF) who doesnt shoot very well, it gives me a lot of pause

I think measurements really will be key with CMB. Right now I'm extremely high on him for his IQ, handle, motor, and strength, but I'm assuming he's got PJ Washington/Scottie Barnes size (6'6.5"-6'7" barefoot, 7'2"+ wingspan) which I don't consider undersized for a 4. If it turns he's got more like Grant Williams size (6'5.75" barefoot, 6'9.75" wingspan), I'm waaaaay less interested.

[rascal]

If Demin continues to have a good tourney, I have a feeling the Spurs won’t be able to help themselves if they’re picking at 9-10. He’s actually shooting 38% on good volume (5/13) from 3 in the first two games. Passing is insane.

The comps to Giddy (a rumored spurs target) are also noteworthy. Next game v Alabama will be telling.

A guard shooting 41% and 28% on 3's and 68% FT for the year. Don't see why the Spurs would have interest.

[spurraider21]

I think measurements really will be key with CMB. Right now I'm extremely high on him for his IQ, handle, motor, and strength, but I'm assuming he's got PJ Washington/Scottie Barnes size (6'6.5"-6'7" barefoot, 7'2"+ wingspan) which I don't consider undersized for a 4. If it turns he's got more like Grant Williams size (6'5.75" barefoot, 6'9.75" wingspan), I'm waaaaay less interested.

my problem is CMB doesnt shoot from outside, and his game is very post oriented, like you have to run stuff through him for him to really be effective. i think in that respect, the Randle comparisons are apt (of course, he can change/improve his game), and Randle has always been an awkward fit. to his credit, CMB projects to be a much much better defender than Randle

[spurraider21]

If Demin continues to have a good tourney, I have a feeling the Spurs won’t be able to help themselves if they’re picking at 9-10. He’s actually shooting 38% on good volume (5/13) from 3 in the first two games. Passing is insane.

The comps to Giddy (a rumored spurs target) are also noteworthy. Next game v Alabama will be telling.

yeah, i would agree that Demin is the best passer in the draft from what i've seen. he is something like Giddey with Slo-Mo size

[rankingtear]

They would consider all good playmakers with size becz Wemby is an off ball superstar. Good thing is this class has a lot of non small playmakers. CMB, Wolf, Demin, Jaku, Nipple and connectors in Riley, Bryant, Penda, Clifford, Hugo.