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    Hmm I guess I’m going to cheer for KD? Tough tbh. We had lost so many playoff series to them that I don’t know how i feel about it. Like I still say we win the championship in 2012 of the ThunderRefs weren’t rigging a KD vs LeBron finals. And 2016 was bull too. That “foul” on DG for being 2 hand pushed by Steven Adams into Durant was complete bull . We probably still lose to the Warriors but you never know. And then the next year with Beta going to the Warriors and Kawhi getting injured. Ugh

    Only good thing is he’s been irrelevant in the playoffs since his warriors run. Idk boys if I can cheer for this dude for the next 2 years.
    Your comment got me checking twitter like the news broke already

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    If the Raptors are indeed offering 9/Jakob/Barrett, Suns would be idiots to pass that up.

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    If the Raptors are indeed offering 9/Jakob/Barrett, Suns would be idiots to pass that up.
    They aren't going to do that for a rental. Durant will have to agree to an extension. So far there are only three teams he seems to be willing to do that with

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    I think this trade will be announced VERY soon. PHX should be realizing they wont be able to squeeze out any more value out of this deal as we get closer to the draft. Reports from Stein and the Athletic discussing KDs hard stance on coming here have killed all momentum. Lots of chatter about us maybe going after a different star down the line has made me second guess this deal, but if we are truly holding firm on our low price then it's hard to say no.

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    I live in Hou homie. How are you “closer?” Bane is a much better player than Smith. Orlando needs a scoring wing and one that can shoot bc Suggs can’t shoot worth . Name brings shooting and scoring to a team in need of both.

    Smith is the 3rd pick overall. If he was good enough, he wouldn’t be stunted anywhere. Houston has a glaring need for a consistent scorer which is why they put up with Green to begin with. Sengun can score and then nobody else really can. Van Vleet can get hot but he isn’t consistent. Green puts up shots like crazy but part of his skillset if you will is that he’s one of two people on the team that can. Smith disappears into the background offensively. He can’t dribble drive. He can’t shoot the ball very well. He can’t post and he doesn’t create for others or himself.

    Thompson is the only hope for Hou if they strike out with Durant when it comes to scoring. It’s not going to happen next year but maybe in 3 years time. And Smith is in his 4th year same as Sochan who people want to extend. Where is the offer then? In fact it was reported that Houston is fine letting him become a RFA. They’re in no rush.
    I also live Hou. Rockets are keeping Jabari out of any trade talks because they value him highly. If he gets dealt it won’t be for Durant. I said he is valued at 3 1st not that there is a team in particular trading for him. Jabari’s value is shooting and defense. Udoka has built a team philosophy in Houston and Jabari is one the guys that has bought in. That in and of its self is very valuable. If he hits RFA it’s because the Rockets have to many mouths to feed and they are looking more towards an Amen Extension and Tari Eason Extension. They are going to have a tough time keeping all the young talent. If you want to talk about a player not producing and playing the Role given to him Jabari is not the guy. Reed Sheppard is the one not gettting minutes.

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    he's gon be a Spur. Y'all can try to deny it all you want.







    Yes there was. Bucks insider said he had it on good authority that the deal is already done. Keldon supposedly told somebody it's done. The rumor been out there.
    I can't see any good reason the Suns are passing up 9/Poeltl/Quickly/Barrett. Spurs can't come close to that offer. 9 probably gets them Jakucionis, no way he's there at 14.

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    You're missing the point. I agree that the suns don't have to do anything and I never suggested the digital ink being spilled here would do anything either. But you're making the point for me: the Suns should trade KD now vs. down the line to preserve more value just like Utah should have traded Lauri last summer compared to now, when he's tanked his value.
    I have zero doubt they will trade him this summer. It’s the only thing that makes sense.

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    What do you guys think with the Jaylen Brown chatter? I don't really like the dude basketball wise tbh. And he's for sure going to demand a lot more than a KD package.

    I'm also pretty deadset and hyped on Harper going here. The only player I'd understand is Giannis but they're going to ask for Harper and Castle which is a no go.

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    I can't see any good reason the Suns are passing up 9/Poeltl/Quickly/Barrett. Spurs can't come close to that offer. 9 probably gets them Jakucionis, no way he's there at 14.
    they gon get Harrison Barnes, #14 and fillers and they will like it

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    What do you guys think with the Jaylen Brown chatter? I don't really like the dude basketball wise tbh. And he's for sure going to demand a lot more than a KD package.

    I'm also pretty deadset and hyped on Harper going here. The only player I'd understand is Giannis but they're going to ask for Harper and Castle which is a no go.
    Jaylen Brown has negative value with that ridiculous contract. I wouldn't trade Branham and Blair for him.

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    they gon get Harrison Barnes, #14 and fillers and they will like it
    Bend over, I'll give you a filler and you're gonna like it.

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    Jaylen Brown has negative value with that ridiculous contract. I wouldn't trade Branham and Blair for him.
    That's the main drawback that I don't even understand. But even if things were reasonable contract-wise, I still don't like his style of play. I think he's just a player that's ok in all things but lack any top 10 in the world potential.

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    I don't know dudes name. I've seen the podcast before, but I have no clue what the name of that is either.

    what makes you think thats an insider? usually an insider is a... person. not just some twitter account.

    bucks fans seem to think its just an aggregator account

    https://www.reddit.com/r/MkeBucks/co...g/bucks_realm/

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    Not sure I’m buying that Toronto has indeed offered that package. If they did, then Phoenix would’ve jumped all over it IMO. That would be a hefty price to pay for a 1 year rental knowing KD has no intentions of extending, not to mention it’s hard to imagine Toronto really thinks they could contend next year even if it did go through.

    Seems like more of the same…reports being leaked to try and get teams like Miami/Houston/SA to increase their offers. Wish Phoenix would just stop ing around take whatever their best real offer is

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    ah thanks. never heard of him until today lol

    im sure he's woj 2.0 tho

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    I can't see any good reason the Suns are passing up 9/Poeltl/Quickly/Barrett. Spurs can't come close to that offer. 9 probably gets them Jakucionis, no way he's there at 14.
    either toronto hasnt actually made that offer, or phoenix is going to wait it out until a little closer to the draft to see if the spurs/rox give anything better (spurs adding an additional future pick in addition to #14, rockets offering jabari smith as part of the package, etc)

    but if its Green + trash or vassell + 14... raptors deal clears

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    Not sure I’m buying that Toronto has indeed offered that package. If they did, then Phoenix would’ve jumped all over it IMO. That would be a hefty price to pay for a 1 year rental knowing KD has no intentions of extending, not to mention it’s hard to imagine Toronto really thinks they could contend next year even if it did go through.

    Seems like more of the same…reports being leaked to try and get teams like Miami/Houston/SA to increase their offers. Wish Phoenix would just stop ing around take whatever their best real offer is
    No way that's true tbh else it doesn't make sense. Only way it's true is if KD is that aggressive at killing non-SA deals.

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    what makes you think thats an insider? usually an insider is a... person. not just some twitter account.

    bucks fans seem to think its just an aggregator account

    https://www.reddit.com/r/MkeBucks/co...g/bucks_realm/
    some say he got sources, some say he doesn't. That's why I said it's a rumor. But he's not the only one putting it out there.

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    some say he got sources, some say he doesn't. That's why I said it's a rumor. But he's not the only one putting it out there.
    im all aboard getting durant for the Evan/Barnes/14 package... but this is tspence, kevin tran, eric zhang level

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    I don’t think anyone is going to put up a great offer for KD. Seems like if he doesn’t get traded to Spurs, he’s just going to walk via free agency and join the Spurs. I think that’s his leverage.

    He’s got to either ok another team or Spurs need to
    up offer - which I don’t think they should.

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    I also live Hou. Rockets are keeping Jabari out of any trade talks because they value him highly. If he gets dealt it won’t be for Durant. I said he is valued at 3 1st not that there is a team in particular trading for him. Jabari’s value is shooting and defense. Udoka has built a team philosophy in Houston and Jabari is one the guys that has bought in. That in and of its self is very valuable. If he hits RFA it’s because the Rockets have to many mouths to feed and they are looking more towards an Amen Extension and Tari Eason Extension. They are going to have a tough time keeping all the young talent. If you want to talk about a player not producing and playing the Role given to him Jabari is not the guy. Reed Sheppard is the one not gettting minutes.
    You are saying two conflicting things. They “value him highly.” They also have “too many mouths to feed” so theyre going to focus on other players. If you’re valued highly then you aren’t third in line. Really 4th bc they have to think about FVV too. And really 5th bc they are in the KD sweepstakes.

    The Rockets may value him. But if you’re 5th on the team in value and the team who drafted you isn’t even going to offer a rookie max to him then it’s not “high value.” They’re meh on him. And the fact that he’s now a bench player and he’s not even going to be offered a contract and that they are okay with him hitting RFA says exactly how the Rockets feel about him. It’s not high value but I suppose it’s more like hope.

    The Rockets are essentially putting him on a prove it deal. And if Smith could actually shoot the ball like you say then he would be playing more minutes. He can’t shoot the ball at all. He’s a shooting “specialist” who really doesn’t shoot the ball well. And his stats his entire career have shown that. It’s why Smith isn’t getting minutes despite “buying in.” He is a mid player. And tbh the Rockets may very well trade him next year if he doesn’t get his together.

    I actually think the Rockets aren’t including him in this trade package not bc they value him but bc they are going after Booker next year and are going to put him in that package. They are using KD to see what Phoenix values from them and really have no interest if they get him. That’s what I would be doing if I was Hou.

    Green. Smith. Sheppard. All of Phoenix FRPs for Booker.

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    You are saying two conflicting things. They “value him highly.” They also have “too many mouths to feed” so theyre going to focus on other players. If you’re valued highly then you aren’t third in line. Really 4th bc they have to think about FVV too. And really 5th bc they are in the KD sweepstakes.

    The Rockets may value him. But if you’re 5th on the team in value and the team who drafted you isn’t even going to offer a rookie max to him then it’s not “high value.” They’re meh on him. And the fact that he’s now a bench player and he’s not even going to be offered a contract and that they are okay with him hitting RFA says exactly how the Rockets feel about him. It’s not high value but I suppose it’s more like hope.

    The Rockets are essentially putting him on a prove it deal. And if Smith could actually shoot the ball like you say then he would be playing more minutes. He can’t shoot the ball at all. He’s a shooting “specialist” who really doesn’t shoot the ball well. And his stats his entire career have shown that. It’s why Smith isn’t getting minutes despite “buying in.” He is a mid player. And tbh the Rockets may very well trade him next year if he doesn’t get his together.

    I actually think the Rockets aren’t including him in this trade package not bc they value him but bc they are going after Booker next year and are going to put him in that package. They are using KD to see what Phoenix values from them and really have no interest if they get him. That’s what I would be doing if I was Hou.

    Green. Smith. Sheppard. All of Phoenix FRPs for Booker.

    again he lost minutes because he broke his hand. Period. I know that for a fact. You have a narrow view of how franchises view their own. But I do agree they are waiting for a bigger fish.

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    Listen… there is one reason and one reason only this deal isn’t done…

    It’s because the people here who “want” him (and yes I put that in quotation marks for a reason) are too ing lazy to get this thread up over 100 pages. Seems like you don’t really “want” him that bad.

    When it was Lauri last summer and then especially Fox at the trade deadline, LeBowen and I were busting our asses to get their respective threads over 100 pages, and a of a lot faster. You Durant fans move about as fast as 48-year old Durant’s feet these days.

    Get your together already if you want this deal done.

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