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Its really not that surprising to me (I think both Nono and I called it), but it's very sad. This has gone from terrible to horrific and it's all own the owners.
I guess we'll watch the Lakers - Knicks - Heat - Mavs. 4 Team league and everyone else will just be practice.
I bet we keep Bonner though and Spurs sign him to a 10 yr contract.
Its really not that surprising to me (I think both Nono and I called it), but it's very sad. This has gone from terrible to horrific and it's all own the owners.
I'll agree that it's on the owners because of the last CBA. They gave the players too damn much last time.
And people thinking it's just players vs owners are forgetting fairly powerful agents behind the players. They'll likely be footing a good portion of the bill for the lawyer's services here.
Good for the players. They were given a choice between abject capitulation or a principled fight. They have chosen to fight despite the fact that the narrow self-interests of most of the current membership would have been better served by taking the deal the NBA put on the table.
The players have been poorly served by Billy Hunter. I would hope that steps are taken to completely sever his relationship with the players. He has utterly failed to protect their interests.
In the end, the hard line owners have gotten what they wanted all along. I hope they come to regret putting the future of the NBA in the hands of lawyers and judges.
They had to because in exchange they received capped salaries. It always been a haggle.
Exactly. It sucks, but no more being duped into false negotiating. No more shuffling of feet. It's a terrible option but the only way to get something done. Hopefully this finally forces the owners to try and negotiate.
Also, contracts aren't voided. Stern has y'all scared. I'm sure the Bulls can't wait to release Noah & Rose
Could have done it the 1st day of the lockout if they really wanted to ga fast..
Truth is it was last option because Hunter is now probably forfeiting his salary
Stern "Players seem bent on self-destruction"
Players will end up with a worse deal now and many paychecks lost.
you greedy players!
Agree. And that can't be said enough. Players for once put money in the back-seat. They're likely not going to recover the loss in this CBA, but for once they've stood up for what they believe in and future players over the quick buck.
Don't doubt it for a second. I didn't even think Hunter would agree to it, tbh.
you think spurs will retire his jersey?
Don't be so sure my friend. I know you buy into face value and everything Stern says, but they could end up with a better deal. Lost pay checks are a given, but that shows you how bad this was that the players put money on the back seat for principle.
A blind man could have seen this coming. Stern told Hunter what the owners were going to do more than three years ago. Only a truly delusional idiot would think that the owners could be persuaded to change their position at the bargaining table. Hunter had two choices all along: take a bad deal or turn it over to the lawyers. He wasted more than four months trying to talk things out.
Paychecks lost are definitely not coming back. The worse-deal part, well, nobody knows at this point.
The players are even more stupid than I originally thought. Decertification does nothing but costs them the entire season. I'm curious to see exactly how many players actually vote to decertify the union in 45 days. They need a simple majority. I really doubt they have the votes and by that time there will be several more lost paychecks and pissed off wives/girlfriends. This whole action is all being rigged up and pursued by big time agents. It is their self interest they are protecting and not the players. Agents don't want a reduction in their income. Keep in mind these agents will be in business for the next 20 years while an average NBA player is only around 3-5 years. The agents are driving this whole sham and it is my prediction they will lose BIG. There is no way we will have a season if they are really serious about decertification. I will never believe the Tim Duncan, Kobe Bryant, Kevin Garnett, and other highly paid superstars are OK about losing over $20 million this season. Had they just put this thing to a vote of all players we would be playing ball in December. It's a shame and it's de able that the union won't even allow their membership to vote. Just utterly astounding!!
No votes needed. Hunter dissolved the union himself.
There won't be a decertification vote. The union leaders disclaimed interest.
Billy Hunter is an idiot. His handling of this whole process has been abysmal.
& the player's interest & by default the fan's interest.
We're where we are supposed to be.
I think we can all agree with this. I think it's likely he won't return as union head when this is over.
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