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    what i'm trying to say is that i hate people saying 'if we were healthy we would have won, or will win, the NBA championship (or comments to that effect).

    I used the Nene comment as an example. Of course he would make the nuggets better but i won't say 'if Nene is healthy' coz i know he may never be.

    I'll accept the team's results as they happen and won't put any blame on injuries like so many people do. Most teams deal with the same thing and some are lucky to not have to
    I see where you are coming from, I just think what's being discussed is a different point of view. I'm not making excuses for Houston myself, I'm saying that injury is something that has a real possibility of altering their season if it rears its head again with regard to the team's leaders.

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    lol i am so happy you can trash my rockets anyway you want.

    Let me see

    Rockets 57-25, 1st round losing in game 6

    Before

    PG Rafer Alston / Bobby Jackson
    SG Tracy McGrady / Luther Head
    SF Shane Battier / Carl Landry
    PF Luis Scola / Chuck Hayes
    C Dikembe Mutombo / Steve Novak

    After

    PG Rafer Alston / Aaron Brooks
    SG Tracy McGrady / Brent Barry
    SF Ron Artest / Shane Battier / Maarty Leunen
    PF Luis Scola / (Carl Landry) Chuck Hayes
    C Yao Ming / Dekembe Mutombo / Joey Dorsey


    Please trash the rockets all you want, you are not going to mess up my mood today.

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    lol i am so happy you can trash my rockets anyway you want.

    Let me see

    Rockets 57-25, 1st round losing in game 6

    Before

    PG Rafer Alston / Bobby Jackson
    SG Tracy McGrady / Luther Head
    SF Shane Battier / Carl Landry
    PF Luis Scola / Chuck Hayes
    C Dikembe Mutombo / Steve Novak

    After

    PG Rafer Alston / Aaron Brooks
    SG Tracy McGrady / Brent Barry
    SF Ron Artest / Shane Battier / Matt Lunent
    PF Luis Scola / (Carl Landry) Chuck Hayes
    C Yao Ming / Dekembe Mutombo / Joey Doresey


    Please trash the rockets all you want, you are not going to mess up my mood today.
    You should feel good now and for the next few weeks. But eventually reality will set in and the NBA season will start.

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    You should feel good now and for the next few weeks. But eventually reality will set in and the NBA season will start.
    Cool
    my 55 wins team + artest + brent barry + joey dorsey - bobby jackson, I don't know about you buddy. My reality looks pretty good, what about yours? Maybe you should stop being a homer and really looking at things in a more impartial manner?

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    What the Spurs should do is fix their achilles heel at Center position and add a mobile shooter.

    Make a trade and send Bonner and Oberto out. Bring in LaMarcus Aldridge or Pryzbilla or both. Not that Portland would go for that but for crying out loud. You can get a better center than Oberto. Shooters are easy to find. Mobile shooters really tough. But maybe you could go get yourself JJ Red who is still cheap after making the blockbuster trade for a good center. If you got Nene, you'd be better off but then Nene would cost ya 8-10 million a year. Wait come to think of it, Bonner and Oberto might just be able to get you a Nene.

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    lol i am so happy you can trash my rockets anyway you want.

    Let me see

    Rockets 57-25, 1st round losing in game 6

    Before

    PG Rafer Alston / Bobby Jackson
    SG Tracy McGrady / Luther Head
    SF Shane Battier / Carl Landry
    PF Luis Scola / Chuck Hayes
    C Dikembe Mutombo / Steve Novak

    After

    PG Rafer Alston / Aaron Brooks
    SG Tracy McGrady / Brent Barry
    SF Ron Artest / Shane Battier / Maarty Leunen
    PF Luis Scola / (Carl Landry) Chuck Hayes
    C Yao Ming / Dekembe Mutombo / Joey Dorsey


    Please trash the rockets all you want, you are not going to mess up my mood today.
    Of course not....would be great to see T-Mac finally make it out of the first round.

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    Cool
    my 55 wins team + artest + brent barry + joey dorsey - bobby jackson, I don't know about you buddy. My reality looks pretty good, what about yours? Maybe you should stop being a homer and really looking at things in a more impartial manner?
    Your 55 win team? lol

    When did you buy the Rockets?

    You're almost forgetting some fluke winning steak that saved "your" team from missing the playoffs.

    So let's put aside said fluke streak.

    Adding Barry is no big whoop. You'll come to see that.

    Joey Dorsey.. really, you're reduced to pimping him?

    Artest, now that's something to hype.

    Though again, reality will set in. He may either be a good thing for the Rockets or a bad thing. Can McGrady stay healthy? Can Yao, especially after playing in the Olympics, stay healthy?

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    Of course not.... I'd be happy to of having the chance of getting out of the first round.
    Out of first round sounds really good honestly, I mean look at those rankings currently posted on this forum, we should be lucky to be a #5 seeds. I mean winning the first round as underdog? I mean I will take that anyday of the week!

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    When you are named a finals MVP yeah you are not just like any other player.
    Truly agree

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    JK JK. Tony Parker is truly a big time player who is a top 5 player at his position, but is the consensus around here that Tony Parker is of the same echelon as Tim and Manu? I personally wouldn't think so, but I haven't watched him over the years like you spurs fans.

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    Your 55 win team? lol

    When did you buy the Rockets?

    You're almost forgetting some fluke winning steak that saved "your" team from missing the playoffs.

    So let's put aside said fluke streak.

    Adding Barry is no big whoop. You'll come to see that.

    Joey Dorsey.. really, you're reduced to pimping him?

    Artest, now that's something to hype.

    Though again, reality will set in. He may either be a good thing for the Rockets or a bad thing. Can McGrady stay healthy? Can Yao, especially after playing in the Olympics, stay healthy?
    Man, what do you have? Mason>Artest? Hill>Dorsey+Barry? I mean are we talking about Grant Hill? I don't know dude, we are adding yao+artest+dorsey+barry to a team that lost the game 6 in the first round. I think we ought to be pretty happy ain't we?

    Maybe you should quit being a hater? Can Duncan stay healthy can manu be healthy can tp be healthy is pop going to have skin cancer? give me a break.

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    Cool
    my 55 wins team + artest + brent barry + joey dorsey - bobby jackson, I don't know about you buddy. My reality looks pretty good, what about yours? Maybe you should stop being a homer and really looking at things in a more impartial manner?
    your pgs still suck, and your frontcourt is thin. but the artest trade is a good one for the rock-ettes.

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    your pgs still suck, and your frontcourt is thin. but the artest trade is a good one for the rock-ettes.
    might you please enlighten me and compare your frontcourt to our frontcourt?

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    Agree that our guards still suck. We are set at shooting guard. Could use a CP3 type player and then we'd be all set.

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    might you please enlighten me and compare your frontcourt to our frontcourt?
    ours is thin too?

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    Although with Adleman's offense, the PG might not be all that important. Just that first initial pass.

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    ours is thin too?
    so your point is? we can win 4 championships in the next 9 years with a thin frontcourt? Okay.. i ll take it

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    I wonder what ron's new contract will look like

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    you know ron will want a contract extension to feel wanted

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    Man, what do you have? Mason>Artest? Hill>Dorsey+Barry? I mean are we talking about Grant Hill? I don't know dude, we are adding yao+artest+dorsey+barry to a team that lost the game 6 in the first round. I think we ought to be pretty happy ain't we?
    , what's with your grammar man?

    Artest is better than Mason. Where did you get the impression I thought otherwise? And where the did I make any comparison with the Spurs?

    Spurs don't need big blockbuster trades to improve their team. They have Tim Duncan, Manu Ginobili and Tony Parker.

    That'd be like the Rockets having Yao, TMac and Artest and then making a trade for a Artest like player.

    Also, Joey ing Dorsey has yet to plan an NBA game and is a second round pick who's only noticeable accomplishment so far is getting ejected from a summer league game while in street clothes and costing his team the game.


    Maybe you should quit being a hater? Can Duncan stay healthy can manu be healthy can tp be healthy is pop going to have skin cancer? give me a break.
    A hater, off rookie. This is a trade that will make the west tougher. But don't come over here on some fantasy cloud gloating and not expect to get kicked the back down to planet earth.

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    I wouldn't be surprised at all if another team tries to swoop in with a better deal. It's no secret this got leaked out today, the Kings want maximum value.

    Bobby Jackson, 1st rounder, and Donta Greene really isn't much of an offer for Artest.
    WRONG, the leak came from the Houston Chronicle, not Sactown. It's pretty much a done deal, both teams have signed off and agreed (The kings are VERY high on Donte, they want him), all they are waiting for is for the 30 day limit to pass on Donte's signing date, because it is against the CBA for him to be moved before that.

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    so your point is? we can win 4 championships in the next 9 years with a thin frontcourt? Okay.. i ll take it
    check yourself, scrub. i wasn't comparing frontcourts, but you asked. yours is thin. so is ours. it's not rocket science.

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    might you please enlighten me and compare your frontcourt to our frontcourt?
    I'll assume you have no idea what a front court is. Well, it's your 3/4/5.

    Rockets have:

    Yao/Cookie Monster
    Scola/Hayes
    Artest/Battier


    Spurs have:

    Thomas/Oberto
    Duncan/Ian/Bonner
    Bowen/Udoka/Gist

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    The 3rd best team in Texas makes a strong push to move past the 1st round.
    Third best team in Texas? Houston wasn't even the worst team in Texas, before they added Artest. This moves gives them a realistic shot at being the best team in Texas.........and that's saying something.

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    Rockets have:

    Yao/Dorsey
    Scola/Landry/Hayes

    Spurs:

    Thomas/Oberto
    Duncan/Ian/Bonner
    Looks about even to me.

    DD

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