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    The Last Good Sport samikeyp's Avatar
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    Most of the polls I have seen (CNN, MSNBC, Today show) have indicated most people support the removal of the feeding tube and protest government intervention. I don't think there will be a huge national outrage over her treatment but I can see more people doing what they can to make sure this doesn't happen to them.

    Just my .02

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    Damn, these stories get huge when white women are involved.

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    There hasn't even been an MRI done on her to determine how much damage was done to the body. You are certainly en led to your opinion but I am too. I'm done arguing this issue so don't even bother to reply to me. Just be prepared to see an outrage from a sad nation.
    Once again, the MRI wasn't/isn't relative because Terri is being kept alive on life support, which she woudln't have wanted.

    It's not about whether or not she has a chance to recover, it's about whether or not she would have wanted the treatment.

    Hook, you deinfetly have your right to an opinion, and I understand what you are saying.

    However, the only time I've seen this portrayed in the media correctly was during Nightline, when they actualy spoke of her right to refuse medical service.

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    FOR THE LAST TIME MANNY - SHE'S NOT ON LIFE SUPPORT!!!!!!! She's on a feeding tube because she can't feed herself!! You are spouting the same misinformation and outright lies that the media is.

    As for the polls - the questions were written so as to exaggerate Terri's condition, i.e. that Terri is on life support and would die anyway. That is just not true- so the polls aren't reliable.

    Also Manny - new information has come to light about the Doctor who originally examined Terri and upon whose evaluation the whole case hinges on. It turns out the Doctor was handpicked by Michael Schiavo and he's a staunch supporter of the Right to Die movement and is a favorite speaker for the Hemlock Society. He's publicly stated that he believes family members should never seek to keep loved ones alive. Still think this case wasn't rigged?

    Again, if this kind of information was raised in a death penalty case, the courts would be all over it and people would be screaming for a stay of execution!

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    FOR THE LAST TIME MANNY - SHE'S NOT ON LIFE SUPPORT!!!!!!! She's on a feeding tube because she can't feed herself!! You are spouting the same misinformation and outright lies that the media is.
    I suggest you read Florida's defenition of life support then tell me I'm wrong. Go ahead.

    As for the polls - the questions were written so as to exaggerate Terri's condition, i.e. that Terri is on life support and would die anyway. That is just not true- so the polls aren't reliable.
    Polls have consistently shown that people in this country would want the "plug pulled" in these types of situations. This is nothing new, and the numbers were always very high (in the 70 percentile).

    Also Manny - new information has come to light about the Doctor who originally examined Terri and upon whose evaluation the whole case hinges on. It turns out the Doctor was handpicked by Michael Schiavo and he's a staunch supporter of the Right to Die movement and is a favorite speaker for the Hemlock Society. He's publicly stated that he believes family members should never seek to keep loved ones alive. Still think this case wasn't rigged?
    No, because if you read information about the first case (you still haven't, have you?) you'll see that the family has a large number of doctors come to testify, there wans't just one.

    What kind of doctors do you think Schiavo's side would pick?

    Again, if this kind of information was raised in a death penalty case, the courts would be all over it and people would be screaming for a stay of execution!
    She's had MORE attention, and MORE appeals than any capital punishment case. Give me a break!

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    Oh, and I'm still waiting for your response in the other thread. Have you read any of hte first hand information or are you still simply relaying on the media to educate you on the case?

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    Everyone wants to do what they want and not what this poor lady wants. Whether we like it or not, her wishes per her spouse were not to live like this. Who are we to intervene in someone else's business and impose said beliefs? If it were my wife in this state and her wish was not to be in this state and I took the neccessary steps to remove her from this state and anyone tried to stop me, I would shoot them in the ing head. They wouldn't have the right to butt in.

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    If someone took away my food and water when I didn't want to die, if I were to be rehabilitated I go find the bas s and beat them to an inch of their life.

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    that is a fair point and you have that right. However, I don't have the right to intervene on your wishes to push my own agenda. If that is your wish, you deserve to have that wish honored and if you couldn't speak for yourself it would be up your guardian. Whether you wrote that down or not, if that was what the person duly designated to speak for you stated were your wishes, no one else would have the right to come in and try and change that.

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    "Whether we like it or not, her wishes per her spouse were not to live like this. Who are we to intervene in someone else's business and impose said beliefs?"............And therein lies the problem! Should the courts just take his word for this when he is in line for insurance money and the fact that he has a common law wife now with 2 children? How do you really know this isn't another Scott Peterson? He just might be going about it differently by letting the courts do his dirty work. Can you prove this isn't a possibility?

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    "Whether we like it or not, her wishes per her spouse were not to live like this. Who are we to intervene in someone else's business and impose said beliefs?"............And therein lies the problem! Should the courts just take his word for this when he is in line for insurance money and the fact that he has a common law wife now with 2 children? How do you really know this isn't another Scott Peterson? He just might be going about it differently by letting the courts do his dirty work. Can you prove this isn't a possibility?
    True, but can you prove that her husband is out for the insurance money?
    Should the courts just take the word of her parents who are NOT her legal guardians by law?

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    How do you really know this isn't another Scott Peterson? He just might be going about it differently by letting the courts do his dirty work. Can you prove this isn't a possibility?
    He very well might be. He might be a scam artist. It is just as much of a possibility that he is on the level. My point was the courts shouldn't be involved at all. Its between Michael and Terry Schaivo. No one else has a right to intervene.

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    There is NO insurance money. ZERO DOLLARS.

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    There is NO insurance money. ZERO DOLLARS.
    six words: Book Deal/Crappy Network movie rights

    He stands to bank quite alot.

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    Terri's fate is sealed.So be it.



    My heart goes out to the parents in this 11th hour. Days ago, I'm sure they thought everything would work out. The final minutes of her life must be excruciatingly painful as a parent. Like sand through their fingers.

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    Maybe the husbands just demented and wants to kill her. I don't think there is a lack of motive in this case. I don't know how much of an issue that is though.

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    Doesn't Michael want to bar an autopsy? isn't he adamant about having her cremated? No, that's not fishy!

    Let me guess, Terri wanted it that way, right?

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    Not that this has any bearing on the legalities or anything, I just find it extremely interesting that he put a DNR on her charts and ordered them to cease rehabililtation shortly after winning the malpractice suit, in 93, not 8 years after her collapse...

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    Let me guess, Terri wanted it that way, right?
    maybe she did, you or I don't know one way or the other.

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    What's wrong with an autopsy, then cremation? What could Michael possibly be afraid of? Is he trying to hide something?

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    Nothing wrong with it to me. Some people prefer cremation. Some people do not want it. Same with autopsies. Just because we are ok with it or think it should happen doesn't mean it has to be that way.

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    So the fact that Michael is trying to prevent an autopsy before cremation is simply a matter of preferences, rather than motives? Am I reading you right, Inspector Clouseau?

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    no you are not, but that is possible. I am saying I don't know what his motives are. I do not know the man nor have I ever spoken with him so I cannot know what his motives are. I can theorize or guess or make an assumption but there is no guarantee of accuracy and therefore cannot be a fact.

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    Off the record, what are your assumptions about Michael regarding his desire to rush Terri through crematorium without an autopsy?

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    I really haven't made any. It that dude's call. I know that some people have issues about autopsies and that they feel its a violation of the deceased. A belief that I do not share. I am not sure that she would need an autopsy. Her condition was diagnosed and confirmed and the cause of death would be as well. I have heard some conspiracy theorists drop the spousal abuse card. I am not sure what he could be hiding and honestly I don't care. (that sounds cruel and I really don't mean it to be) I just believe that the committments and obligations you take on when you get married should not be interfered with. As I have said here previously, if my wife and I were in this situation, my wife has made it clear to me that she would not want to live like this. As her spouse and guardian in that situation, I would have to honor her wishes above everybody else and I feel that nobody has the right to tell me how to do that.

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