**Official TUF 10 Discussion Thread**

[LEONARD]

I'm not making it up. I know you and your wife. Well, I don't know YOU. I know for a fact that the entire post office ran a train on her. She complained about her fat husband with the little .

Once again...you're only making yourself look like a little ...

Well shivers was in frickin great shape, and him BMI is a lot better then Nelsons I guess

Yep...and his cardio was kickass!!!

Wow, what crawled up your ass and died? Im sure he would destroy me, he is a trained professional fighter. I am saying, if i saw this dude out in a bar and he started with me, i wouldnt feel that bad about meeting him outside for a round or two. Now...would i win, probably not.

Stop getting your ing panties in a wad, the dude is fat...looks like he has very little actual muscle. What is so wrong about stating the obvious? He your friend or relative or something?

Ill change my sig pic, when you guys remove your 1280x1024 collage of animated gifs, fight posters, stat lines, etc...that eat my browser up every time i see them. Until then enjoy... .

LOL..."probably not"...really?? So you'd give yourself some sort of change against Roy Nelson??

Yes, you stated the obvious...that Roy Nelson is fat, which I think anybody would agree on. I stated the obvious as well...that you don't know anything about Roy Nelson as a fighter, but you're making comments about his skills...

No really...your sig pic sucks dude...

Good point, this.

Which proves that being in shape, definately doesnt mean having good cardio.

What i think the other guy and i are trying to say is that being fat definately and unequivically means you are "out of shape"

Being fat puts stress on your heart, arteries, etc... leads to things like high blood pressure, diabetes, etc...do i have to recite this or you guys can probably go to the American Heart Association website to read it. The dude, according to Wikipedia, is 6ft 265. That would put him in the high range of the obese category on a BMI chart...nearing "extremely obese" Is that healthy?

It is rare that someone that fat would have good cardio, but maybe he does (giving leonard the benefit of the doubt). He is most definately obese though, and that in and of itself is being out of shape.

BMI...sweet. Plug in a height, weight, and age and see where you fall. Lesnar is extremely obese too. Acccording to you, that means he's out of shape...right?? Or did I not read that right?

Yes, Roy Nelson is fat...he's also a solid fighter that has proven in the past that he can fight well and have good cardio while still being fat. It's just the way he is. I think he's on TUF because of his belly honestly. He doesn't fit the look that the UFC wants for its fighters to have. He's having to prove himself on the show while many other HW's with nowhere near his credentials go straight to the UFC. Pretty lame really. I hope he fights smart and rolls thru everyone on the show...

[LEONARD]

Unless you are a internet MMA moron looking for spoilers then you shouldn't know the result..

Actually, they've been posted all over the place...I know I stumbled onto one by accident on a forum because it was posted in a thread le. I wasn't happy about it...

giggle.

Right...because I said I went looking for spoilers...genius.

What's the point of watching the show when you know the end result? Why watch the show? If you don't care about the show or the results, why would post in a thread about the show? Maybe you are in internet MMA moron as db says.

Nobody knows the end result. There are rumors floating around but nobody knows what's true and what's made up. Wes Sims is behind most of it, and he certainly can't be trusted...

and the end result is live anyway...

[oligarchy]

Sounds like a good excuse there little . "I saw it while surfing .. I swear." You looked it up hoping your fat friend would be there at the end.

You continue to post the same thing about BMI. What don't you get? You use Brock Lesnar as an example. That's good.

Would a doctor look at Brock and go.. Hey, according to BMI, you're obese. I can't tell, because I'm LEONARD and a stupid .

No. It's obvious BMI wouldn't apply to someone that's IN SHAPE

NELSON.. on the other hand is a fat and the doctor would say, HEY you're BMI is through the ing roof. If you want to stay clear of a heart attack or whatever else you fat s like LEONARD watch out for when you are fat pieces of , then I'd watch out for that. Becuase YOU'RE ING FAT.

I know it's hard to understand these words when you have ketchup and mayonnaise on the screen and you wipe the screen to read, but you smeared over some other letters, but it's a simple concept really. Put down the fast food, clean the screen entirely, read the message. Ask someone with an IQ greater than 30 what the words mean, and then respond. That would be great. Thanks.

[LEONARD]

More proof there at the end that you are insane and have major issues...good stuff.

I've actually never been a Roy Nelson fan because he does annoying in the ring...like rubbing his belly and doing stupid jumping kicks after a fight. But you can think what you'd like. Evan also saw a spoiler that he didn't want to see...why is that so far fetched in your mind?

So Lesnar is excluded from the BMI discussion because he's "in shape"...clearly he is by looking at him, but how do you quantify "in shape"??? I didn't realize the BMI chart was for out of shape people only...lol

Is Gabe Gonzaga obese?? Frank Mir? BMI says they are. Or do they get the "in shape" pass too?

BMI is stupid and pointless...that's my point. You've brought it up in the past and Soul Patch brought it up this time...pointless.

[oligarchy]

Because you're an idiot without common sense. That's my point.

[oligarchy]

Don't go "stumble" across any more spoilers.

[polandprzem]

Jeez christ - put your emotions aside



The BMI doesn't tell you the truth. And I don't know why was it made for?


And about a cardio. Yup the guy is fat but that does not mean he has a weak cardio.
and I don't know if have so much fat is being out of shape.
If you can talk about his cardio and that fat is spoiling his cardio it's the truth but muscles needs more oxygen so a guy with the same muscle mass rather then fat will have more chance to have worse cardio.

[LEONARD]

Because you're an idiot without common sense. That's my point.

Solid response...

[oligarchy]

"in shape" is a generic throw away term. BMI isn't the end all - be all. It's just a number the quantifies BODY FAT.

If you are an athlete, you are going to have more muscle mass than a normal person, thus it's going to be hard to use BMI as an sort of indicator.

I mean, we aren't talking about ing quantum physics here.

[LEONARD]

BMI isn't the end all - be all. It's just a number the quantifies BODY FAT.

How does BMI have anything to do with BODY FAT?

You can't determine anything about BODY FAT with a height, weight, and age...

[oligarchy]

Solid response...

and your regurgitation is a new solid take on what? Nothing. You didn't make any point that I haven't already refuted. If you don't get that. I'm sorry you are a moron.

[oligarchy]

How does BMI have anything to do with BODY FAT?

You can't determine anything about BODY FAT with a height, weight, and age...

You're such a tool. Go measure Roy Nelson with some ing calipers to get his ready body fat percentage. I guarantee that his BMI Index is closely related.

[oligarchy]

er.. I said Body Fat but I meant Body Mass

[Soul_Patch]

LOL..."probably not"...really?? So you'd give yourself some sort of change against Roy Nelson??

Yes, you stated the obvious...that Roy Nelson is fat, which I think anybody would agree on. I stated the obvious as well...that you don't know anything about Roy Nelson as a fighter, but you're making comments about his skills...

No really...your sig pic sucks dude...

Yep...I think i can beat Roy Nelson! Absolutely, thats what this whole discussion boils down to. It's just a who's tougher than who argument.

Are you ing dense bro? Like seriously have a hard time comprehending information? My comments are if i saw this dude starting with a friend, or with me, or whatever...i wouldnt auto think "damn, that dude is tough, this is going to hurt!" I would probably give myself a shot. Can you not get that?

Let me put it in very short concise words so hopefully you can understand, i know its kinda tough to understand complex sentences and ideas.

Nelson is fat.

Nelson looks weak (not strong).

He looks like a pushover. (need me to define pushover? pm me!)

Im sorry dude if this offends you somehow, or if this dude is related to you or something. I am fat too, so make fun of me! I am simply stating the obvious.

Should i change my sig to a 1280x1024 UFC 104 Fight poster? Maybe i can add some bad ass animation to it!

[dbreiden83080]

"in shape" is a generic throw away term. BMI isn't the end all - be all. It's just a number the quantifies BODY FAT.

If you are an athlete, you are going to have more muscle mass than a normal person, thus it's going to be hard to use BMI as an sort of indicator.

I mean, we aren't talking about ing quantum physics here.

True, when i graduated High School i was 155 pds soaking wet, and i'm 6'0 tall. I went to the gym and bulked up a lot in my early 20's to about 200 pds, some fat, but mostly muscle. I'm about 210 now, which is off from peak weight since bulking up, by about 10-12 pds but if you calulate my BMI, it says i am overweight not calulating in muscle gain. Yet if you do it for my weight at age 18 when i was a scrawny little , it says i am right where i need to be.. And my cardio is way better now than it was then, as i never went to the gym when i was a kid..

BMI is uselss..

[oligarchy]

I don't even get the love with BMI from LEONARD to try to downplay anypoint. It's just stupid and pathetic. I just used it because. If I look at you and you're FAT. I guarantee BMI applies to you.

[oligarchy]

LEONARD is fat. His BMI is in the obesity range

NELSON is fat. His BMI is the obesity range.


I don't care if Lensar or anyone else has a high BMI. They aren't fat. End of story. End of point.l

[LEONARD]

er.. I said Body Fat but I meant Body Mass

and that would make sense...body fat has nothing to do with BMI.

You're forgiven for your mistake above, even though you still managed to call me a tool, even though I was right based on what you typed at the top of this page...

BMI is uselss..

Thank you

[dbreiden83080]

Could Rampage be any dumber? He has the pick and he doesn't hand pick an opponent for Kimbo

Come on dude how do you hand-pick an oppponent for Kimbo? He couldn't KO James Glass Chin Thompson and was waxed by Seth Petrazelli.. Everyone in that house, has the tools to beat him.. I like that he has to fight someone good, it's what i wanted. If he is going to do well on the show, lets see him earn it..

[LEONARD]

I don't even get the love with BMI from LEONARD to try to downplay anypoint. It's just stupid and pathetic. I just used it because. If I look at you and you're FAT. I guarantee BMI applies to you.

LEONARD is fat. His BMI is in the obesity range

NELSON is fat. His BMI is the obesity range.

I don't care if Lensar or anyone else has a high BMI. They aren't fat. End of story. End of point.l

Can you post a pic of obese LEONARD since you know me so well??

BMI was brought up on this forum for the first time by YOU to somehow try to show that I was a fatass...dumbass.

[LEONARD]

Come on dude how do you hand-pick an oppponent for Kimbo? He couldn't KO James Glass Chin Thompson and was waxed by Seth Petrazelli.. Everyone in that house, has the tools to beat him.. I like that he has to fight someone good, it's what i wanted. If he is going to do well on the show, lets see him earn it..

Well he didn't pick an opponent so now he gets the guy on the show with the best ground skills...I would think Nelson would NOT have been Rampage's pick. That is my point...Rampage ed up, again.

[LEONARD]

Yep...I think i can beat Roy Nelson! Absolutely, thats what this whole discussion boils down to. It's just a who's tougher than who argument.

Are you ing dense bro? Like seriously have a hard time comprehending information? My comments are if i saw this dude starting with a friend, or with me, or whatever...i wouldnt auto think "damn, that dude is tough, this is going to hurt!" I would probably give myself a shot. Can you not get that?

Let me put it in very short concise words so hopefully you can understand, i know its kinda tough to understand complex sentences and ideas.

Nelson is fat.

Nelson looks weak (not strong).

He looks like a pushover. (need me to define pushover? pm me!)

Im sorry dude if this offends you somehow, or if this dude is related to you or something. I am fat too, so make fun of me! I am simply stating the obvious.

Should i change my sig to a 1280x1024 UFC 104 Fight poster? Maybe i can add some bad ass animation to it!

You said...

I am saying, if i saw this dude out in a bar and he started with me, i wouldnt feel that bad about meeting him outside for a round or two. Now...would i win, probably not.

the "probably not" made me laugh...

Let me lay it out for you also.

Nelson if fat.

Nelson is a good fighter.

You know nothing about Nelson as a fighter, yet you're commenting on him as a fighter.

I'm not offended by anything you say about Nelson as I don't know him and am not a fan of his...just correcting you since you are clearly ignorant about Roy Nelson as a fighter.

[oligarchy]

and that would make sense...body fat has nothing to do with BMI.

You're forgiven for your mistake above, even though you still managed to call me a tool, even though I was right based on what you typed at the top of this page...



Thank you

I made a mistake. Point LEONARD. Want to make out now?

Can you post a pic of obese LEONARD since you know me so well??

BMI was brought up on this forum for the first time by YOU to somehow try to show that I was a fatass...dumbass.

I don't have time to search for the picture of yourself that you posted.. Just repost it.

[dbreiden83080]

Well he didn't pick an opponent so now he gets the guy on the show with the best ground skills...I would think Nelson would NOT have been Rampage's pick. That is my point...Rampage ed up, again.

I agree Page ed up, but wouldn't you rather see Kimbo fight someone of caliber? If he wins, it's dramatic, if he loses, then we know he didn't really belong there..

[Soul_Patch]

I never pretended to know anything about him. I said he looks out of shape, and that knowing nothing else about him or his background, he looks like a guy i wouldnt be that affraid of

People i probably wouldnt back down to fight, knowing only what the look like:









See the trend here?....sure ALL of them (ok accept maybe the big tie black guy) could probably kick my ass...but i wouldnt know that until i was on the ground regreting my decision.