this country will recover when most of the baby boomers are dead

[FuzzyLumpkins]

We're getting there, Fuzzy, we're getting there. After I posted yesterday my husband collapsed and I took him to the little hospital up here...he will probably be okay for now. But both of us have made out living wills and medical directives that insist on no heroic measures being taken in case of extreme difficulty. Neither of us wants to prolong death under the ruse of prolonging life.

So, while we are not getting out of the way as fast as some would like, we are getting there...just give it a little time until the post-BB utopia envelopes America.

And the best of luck to all of you.

Sorry to hear that bout your husband. Really am. My father, a baby boomer himself, died a couple of years ago. I hope your husband is okay.

I know the pain of personal loss and because of the inflammatory nature of my response it probably hit quite home. I am sorry for that.

At the same time there is a reality to the composition of the US population and electorate. I really do need to dampen the rhetoric. I really am sorry especially if you are going through like that.

I sat there and watched for 3 days my father die after a brain aneurysm last year. not fun.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

My what a salty imagination you have.

(I'm not a boomer btw. By your phony baloney approximation of sociology, I count as a GenerationX-er.)

Did I ever characterize it as sociology? Keep building those strawmen, chachi.

You are doing quite well on the derail I will give you that.

[Winehole23]

What got derailed? Your petty points of etiquette, while you defend ting on baby boomers indiscriminately?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

The connection of what you have been saying to sociology and demography and so forth, is transparently bogus. Hence quasi-...

I said demographic.

What you are doing is taking something like me saying 'water being wet is a physical property.' And then you characterize it as me claiming something on the basis of physics.

You are trying to pigeonhole me and failing at your strawman.

Try again.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

What got derailed? Your petty points of etiquette, while you defend ting on baby boomers indiscriminately?

I can't hear you over all the crying. Can you speak up?

[Winehole23]

I said demographic.

Don't strain anything patting yourself on the back.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Don't strain anything patting yourself on the back.

More intellectual cowardice. I can go back and forth with you all day long. Well at least for the next 5 minutes.

[Winehole23]

Anyway, your smug and disdainful version of the uber-hackneyed "demography is destiny" harangue, did not satisfy. Going by your posts in this thread mostly it is a threadbare polemic with a sincere hand waving relationship to its own evidence.

[Winehole23]

Was there any evidence, or did Fuzzy spin it out of his own head?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Anyway, your preening and half-literate version of the hoary old "demography is destiny" harangue did not satisfy. Going by your posts in this thread mostly it is a threadbare polemic with a sincere hand waving relationship to its own evidence.

More pigeonholing. "Demograpgy is destiny" is your polemic that you are trying to apply to this discussion. Its not cogent.

I heave repeatedly stated that being a baby boomer does not necessitate that an individual who is a baby boomer will exhibit those traits. If you want to say that every individual is a snowflake and that holisitc analysis of a group does not reveal any truths that is fine.

Be a staunch reductionist.

But you do not even have the intellectual courage to do that. You just make overarching judgements that cite no particulars just general whining.

Try again.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Was there any evidence, or did Fuzzy spin it out of his own head?

Talk to me in the third person, now that nice.

As i sated before the composition of the US congress has been at least 80% baby boomer for the last 20 years.

I was going to start going through the CEO's of the DOW and S&P firms as well as various state legislatures and governorships and municipality posts.

Its still a hypothesis but my hypothesis is that the vast majority of those positions. Concurrently I will look at the voting records of those individuals.

As I said from there look for trends.

I certainly have not prevent the hypothesis but at the same token your little grandstanding serving as judgement has done nothing to discredit the notion either.

[Winehole23]

Talk to me in the third person, now that nice.

You mistake me. There are other posters here. It's not all about you.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You mistake me. There are other posters here. It's not all about you.

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[Winehole23]

You just make overarching judgements that cite no particulars just general whining.

You're welcome. What do you call it when you do it?

[Winehole23]

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Hairsplitting. You're so deep.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You're welcome. What do you call it when you do it?

I know you are but what am I? At least get some original material.

Anyway this is boring I'll come back when I get more data to share.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Hairsplitting. You're so deep.

Hairsplitting. We have been going back and forth here for half an hour. The banner other than EVAY awhile ago has read that.

Thats not hairsplitting. thats just you being unaware of your surroundings.

[Winehole23]

[boutons_deux]

Here's how a significant %age of post-boomers get through college

Seeking Arrangement: College Students Using 'Sugar Daddies' To Pay Off Loan Debt

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0...comm_ref=false

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btw, nothing new here. I was in LV on a business trip years ago. Great hotel, the lobby was crawling with college girls who flew in for the weekend to pick up some "expenses".

[DarkReign]

I have always found socio-economic status to be the true, sure-fire indicator of generalizations that stick.

Age, not so much.

[MannyIsGod]

http://www.cnn.com/2011/09/29/opinio...html?hpt=hp_c2

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

This sounds pretty heartless and mean, BUT, I've always thought the amount of money this country spends to make it so people die at age 88 rather than age 85 (random numbers but you get the point) was absurd. It contributes absolutely nothing to the economy/society when people are simply on their death bed longer before they die, it would be a lot smarter to use the billions of dollars spent on that on education for people from age 0-20 (since educating younger people will actually improve the economy down the road) or simply cutting the expense to lower the deficit. I'm all for medicare/free healthcare to a certain point, but there needs to be a cut off point IMO.

[CosmicCowboy]

This sounds pretty heartless and mean, BUT, I've always thought the amount of money this country spends to make it so people die at age 88 rather than age 85 (random numbers but you get the point) was absurd. It contributes absolutely nothing to the economy/society when people are simply on their death bed longer before they die, it would be a lot smarter to use the billions of dollars spent on that on education for people from age 0-20 (since educating younger people will actually improve the economy down the road) or simply cutting the expense to lower the deficit. I'm all for medicare/free healthcare to a certain point, but there needs to be a cut off point IMO.

As long as it's not YOU, right?

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

As long as it's not YOU, right?

Dying at age 85 rather than 88 really isn't a big deal to me, especially since the last few years where I'd need round the clock treatment would totally suck.

The fact that Americans don't even take the time to think about it and jump to, "The bible says thou shalt not kill but doesn't mention education anywhere, what an immoral idea!" is what's wrong with this country. It makes no sense that the government spends billions to keep old people alive a few extra years while they're so quick to cut education spending for people who are still gonna be alive for another 60 years, all it does is cripple America's future.

[Agloco]

Dying at age 85 rather than 88 really isn't a big deal to me, especially since the last few years where I'd need round the clock treatment would totally suck.

The clinical reality is that in the vast majority of cases, it won't be your decision (especially in cases where heroic measures are needed in a pinch). Its going to be left up to your loved ones. You can guess what the answer will be in most cases, despite your wishes.

When your father or mother is on that table though and the moment comes, what are you going to say as your children ask about how grandma is doing?

"I'm thinking about your future boo." is probably not going to be at the top of your pre-packaged responses.

The heart usually wins, but I agree with your premise.