Mason Wants Out?

[dbestpro]

Awesome, who,
Eric Musselman?
PJ Carleisimo?
What available coach right now are you gonna get thats better?
Seriously.

This argument use to work. The problem is Pop has coached this year like Mussleman. If he continues to coach this way, then you can take your pick of dozens of coaches who can do better, including PJ. In fact give me Jabbar as our next head coach. At least he wouldn't go small.

[DPG21920]

It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of Light, it was the season of Darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair, we had everything before us, we had nothing before us, we were all going direct to heaven, we were all going direct the other way - in short, the period was so far like the present period, that some of its noisiest authorities insisted on its being received, for good or for evil, in the superlative degree of comparison only.

Charles ens, A Tale of Two Cities
English novelist (1812 - 1870)

[EricB]

Did you think the Spurs would win it all around this time in 2007?

Most fans thought that we didn't have a chance around this time back then either.

If you did show me some quotes.

I wasn't 100% confident, but I knew they had the pieces to do it.



Show me quotes. Up yours kid.

[timvp]

If no larger trade can be worked out, I bet the Spurs trade RMJ + Mahinmi to Golden State for Raja Bell and cash.

[ShoogarBear]

Problem is, there was a roster to rally behind in 07.

Can you honestly say that about THIS roster as it stands now?

“If we don't win it, I should probably be fired."--Gregg Popovich, Jul 19th 2009.

If they were to get a Tyrus Thomas and a John Salmons I'd then go into full 07 mode and be ready to rally the troops, but even I one of the biggest Spurs homers there is can't get confident in this group.

Now, I'm not saying that this particular team functioning at its peak is good enough to beat the Lakers or Denver or (now) Dallas at their peaks. But it clearly has more talent than any team in the Duncan Era and it's not even come close to achieving its potential. In fact, the last team Spurs team to underachieve this badly was what . . . when Tarkanian was coach?

It's not 100% on Pop, but I would say a large part, like 75%, is on him. And not just the tactical decisions like smallball and the rotations, but the like throwing players under the bus and adopting the Don Nelson excuse vibe.

Pop's been a fantastic coach, but this year he's declined more than any player. I don't understand it, maybe he's just getting tired.

[EricB]

This argument use to work. The problem is Pop has coached this year like Mussleman. If he continues to coach this way, then you can take your pick of dozens of coaches who can do better, including PJ. In fact give me Jabbar as our next head coach. At least he wouldn't go small.

Yeah ok kid.

[ElNono]

If no larger trade can be worked out, I bet the Spurs trade RMJ + Mahinmi to Golden State for Raja Bell and cash.

I rather do that than standing pat...

[ducks]

Yeah Pop and Manu are guys in retirement that will take a vacation together and not think about the old times, debate politics and do other things.

They are friends.

Hard not to with the time they've spent together and what they've all been through.

right now they both can not retire fast enough

spurs could use some of that 11 million on player then can make a difference
regularly

[BanditHiro]

Uh cross out the Nets Rockets and Grizzlies

Out of the rest of em, only the Bulls have players I'd be honestly interested in.

the nets have brock lopez i know he would be impossible to get but..

[EricB]

If no larger trade can be worked out, I bet the Spurs trade RMJ + Mahinmi to Golden State for Raja Bell and cash.

Meh, I guess that would be ok.

In theory it would be ok, but, damn.

[ducks]

“If we don't win it, I should probably be fired."--Gregg Popovich, Jul 19th 2009.



Now, I'm not saying that this particular team functioning at its peak is good enough to beat the Lakers or Denver or (now) Dallas at their peaks. But it clearly has more talent than any team in the Duncan Era and it's not even come close to achieving its potential. In fact, the last team Spurs team to underachieve this badly was what . . . when Tarkanian was coach?

It's not 100% on Pop, but I would say a large part, like 75%, is on him. And not just the tactical decisions like smallball and the rotations, but the like throwing players under the bus and the adopting the Don Nelson excuse vibe.

Pop's been a fantastic coach, but this year he's declined more than any player. I don't understand it, maybe he's just getting tired.

he is tired that is why aj would even be better then him

[MaNu4Tres]

If no larger trade can be worked out, I bet the Spurs trade RMJ + Mahinmi to Golden State for Raja Bell and cash.

Or a Mason/Finley for Salmons

With Finley coming back in 30 days. (Pop's deal breaker)

[SequSpur]

Tyrus Thomas and Salmons.........

yeah right...the bulls are doing great with them aren't they....

[ElNono]

If no larger trade can be worked out, I bet the Spurs trade RMJ + Mahinmi to Golden State for Raja Bell and cash.

I wanted to add... if that ends up being the case... so much for all those 'valuable expiring contracts' people were pimping when the season started...

[EricB]

“If we don't win it, I should probably be fired."--Gregg Popovich, Jul 19th 2009.



Now, I'm not saying that this particular team functioning at its peak is good enough to beat the Lakers or Denver or (now) Dallas at their peaks. But it clearly has more talent than any team in the Duncan Era and it's not even come close to achieving its potential. In fact, the last team Spurs team to underachieve this badly was what . . . when Tarkanian was coach?

It's not 100% on Pop, but I would say a large part, like 75%, is on him. And not just the tactical decisions like smallball and the rotations, but the like throwing players under the bus and the adopting the Don Nelson excuse vibe.

Pop's been a fantastic coach, but this year he's declined more than any player. I don't understand it, maybe he's just getting tired.

I don't disagree.


I think there are times this year Pop has been a little too open to the media with his thoughts than he should've been and I don't think I could've ever thought that.

Its a catch 22 though.

Who would you hire better? Is Avery Johnson really that big of an upgrade?

Is there a coach out there right now that you could say "ya know if he had the Spurs roster, I'd love to see what he'd do with it"

I'm not as educated on assistant coaches right now maybe you could point me to a name...

[SequSpur]

If no larger trade can be worked out, I bet the Spurs trade RMJ + Mahinmi to Golden State for Raja Bell and cash.

yeah, RMJ would probably have a chance at being an allstar next year and Mahinmi will average a double double....

Raja Bell sucks.

[ducks]

Meh, I guess that would be ok.

In theory it would be ok, but, damn.

told you they would trade for a pick

[ShoogarBear]

Tyrus Thomas and Salmons.........

yeah right...the bulls are doing great with them aren't they....

How were the Wiz doing with Butler and Haywood?

[DPG21920]

Tyrus Thomas and Salmons.........

yeah right...the bulls are doing great with them aren't they....

That is a terrible argument. So Al Jefferson sucks? Tyreke Evans? Rose?

[ducks]

yeah, RMJ would probably have a chance at being an allstar next year and Mahinmi will average a double double....

Raja Bell sucks.

when you trade a sucky player you get that back

[SequSpur]

I don't disagree.


I think there are times this year Pop has been a little too open to the media with his thoughts than he should've been and I don't think I could've ever thought that.

Its a catch 22 though.

Who would you hire better? Is Avery Johnson really that big of an upgrade?

Is there a coach out there right now that you could say "ya know if he had the Spurs roster, I'd love to see what he'd do with it"

I'm not as educated on assistant coaches right now maybe you could point me to a name...

Pop road the gravy train to 4 rings..that's great...every dog has his day...it's time to move on...

I'm tired of his act...get someone here to entertain me....

[Libri]

If the Spurs still want their back up point guard, then this is the opportunity to get one.

[EricB]

Or a Mason/Finley for Salmons

With Finley coming back in 30 days. (Pop's deal breaker)

From your keyboard to god's ears.

I don't know how he's played this year, but I loved how he played against the Celtics last year. Especially defensively.

[ducks]

i don't disagree.


I think there are times this year pop has been a little too open to the media with his thoughts than he should've been and i don't think i could've ever thought that.

Its a catch 22 though.

Who would you hire better? Is avery johnson really that big of an upgrade?

Is there a coach out there right now that you could say "ya know if he had the spurs roster, i'd love to see what he'd do with it"

i'm not as educated on assistant coaches right now maybe you could point me to a name...

a new voice is an upgrade

[dbestpro]

Yeah ok kid.

I probably met your momma at a Spurs game in 78.