No Splitter?

[TDMVPDPOY]

spurs fo will get desperate and overpay for unproven player in the nba

but anything 4-5m a season on short term contract is worth it....6m is overpaying

[objective]

the MLE will probably drop to the point where even a full MLE deal with max raises might not even reach $6 million.

If not Splitter this summer, and the Spurs are willing to spend the MLE, there's not too much else considering how many teams will have huge caproom and the ability to pay more than MLE to anyone worth something.

Maybe they can settle on Ray Allen, or Josh Howard. Marcus Camby could probably be had for MLE or less. Jermaine O'Neal or Udonis Haslem. Mike Miller?

Everyone else worthwhile should get more than MLE, like David Lee.

Best thing to do now is to just swallow their pride and play out with Mahinmi. If Mahinmi sucks, so what, they can count on Splitter coming or some other MLE signing and they weren't bringing Ian back anyway.

If Ian is good and gets the attention of other teams (like up to the MLE), it doesn't matter if Splitter signs because then there'd be no room in the rotation for Ian with TD, Splitter, Blair, McDyess and Floor-Spreading PF on the roster.

If Ian is good and Splitter doesn't sign, then the Spurs could just use the portion of the MLE necessary on Ian instead of Jermaine O'Neal or Marcus Camby who are due to break down and disappoint just like McDyess this year.

[timaios]

It's also very difficult to determine how much money will be offered to Splitter by European teams.

Greece is facing a major financial crisis. It's far from sure that Olympiacos or Panty Tacos are ready to spend a lot of money this summer.

Real Madrid was said to be interested in Splitter but their soccer section has been a disaster this year while they spend a lot of money on it. I can see them spending all their money to fix their soccer team and being quiet on the basketball front.

Splitter getting big offers from European teams is far from a sure thing. Monroe article is quite clueless about that.

Come on, they lost again in Champions League 1/8 Final but they are 1st in Spain league... in front of Barcelona.
It's not a disaster... yet.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Come on, they lost again in Champions League 1/8 Final but they are 1st in Spain league... in front of Barcelona.
It's not a disaster... yet.

They had a decent year but they spent some a money to do it...

[timaios]

They had a decent year but they spent some a money to do it...

If they win the spanish league in front of Barcelona (the best team in the world), we can't say their season is a disaster.
Just sayin'...

And they have a lot of new players this season, they will be better next year with more chemistry.

[FeZZy]

man that if he doesnt wanna come play for his pride then he is a pussy, no he is not a savior he's just gonna be another rasho

[TDMVPDPOY]

Come on, they lost again in Champions League 1/8 Final but they are 1st in Spain league... in front of Barcelona.
It's not a disaster... yet.

i doubt barca gives a about domestic bball league anyway where they dont make much money compared to their football team...

[timaios]

i doubt barca gives a about domestic bball league anyway where they dont make much money compared to their football team...

I was talking about football.

[gospursgojas]

I didn't feel like reading 11 pages...

Someone please tell me at least 9 of the 11, were posts about how this was a wasted draft pick since the begining and article is no suprise.

AND....not 11 pages of people crying as if this guy was gonna save the franchise.

[TJastal]

I didn't feel like reading 11 pages...

Someone please tell me at least 9 of the 11, were posts about how this was a wasted draft pick since the begining and article is no suprise.

AND....not 11 pages of people crying as if this guy was gonna save the franchise.

No, there are still scores of posters who actually think he is still coming to save the franchise...

It's really getting sad ..

[TJastal]

Not worth arguing with Jtal. The guy knows nothing about basketball.
He can't tell the difference from a smart guy with a high IQ from an idiot with an IQ of a watermelon (Tyrus Thomas).

Thiago Splitter is one of the top 3 centers in Euroleague.
The news about Messina wanting him in Madrid is indicative, as Messina is a great coach and a defensive-minded one.

And you are damn right: the question is not whether the Spurs want Splitter, it whether Splitter wants the Spurs.

Yup I know nothing about basketball...........

Last night, that 'idiot' with an IQ of a watermelon was a beast against OKC. His line of 11/9/2/2 in 21 minutes helped obviously but it was mainly his huge defensive plays (blocks and steals) down the stretch in the 2nd half that ignited the shorthanded bobcats to a comeback victory.

Another thing about Thomas is he doesn't concede anything around the rim. Durant found out the hard way when Thomas took his driving layup and sent it heading the opposite direction. Then Jeff Green found out when Thomas met him in mid-air and sent him crashing to the floor in pain, and the officials even whisted Green for using his off arm on the play.

People need to recognize this is an athlete's league now and there are few better than T squared.

[lennyalderette]

@Tjastal
so are you pretty confident tiago is staying in europe ???????????? not being sarcastic i just noticed the comments about the people on here waiting for tiago to save our spurs, you seem like a smart dude, so just wanted to know your honest opinion

[TJastal]

@Tjastal
so are you pretty confident tiago is staying in europe ???????????? not being sarcastic i just noticed the comments about the people on here waiting for tiago to save our spurs, you seem like a smart dude, so just wanted to know your honest opinion

I'd give it a >1% chance he'll be a spur next season.

As KBP posted in the nba forum he will be offered substantially more money to stay in Europe, the nba caps are due to shrink due to lower revenues and the spurs aren't really in a position to get into a bidding war anyway.

That's to say nothing about other factors other than $$$, I think if SA was in a total rebuild mode with a new coach there would at least be a chance he's be considering it, but given what he probably sees (a quirky coach w/ no confidence in his bigs, playing small ball, big men riding the bench and/or let go), and he probably doesn't know for sure how his game is going to translate to the nba (and neither does anyone else), the fact that the big 3 are still playing and the spurs trying to field a champion, and finally he'd be thrown into a major pressure cooker to provide immediate results. His agent has probably discussed all this with him already and he is well aware of all of this.

I'd say its possible he might come in another 4-5 years ala Sabonis (as somebody else mentioned in this thread) after he's made his fortune in Europe and has little else to prove there and the big 3 are all retired and the spurs are in a rebuilding phase and there would be little pressure on him.

[Mel_13]

I'd give it a >1% chance he'll be a spur next season.

As KBP posted

1. How much greater than 1%.

2. KBP as a reliable source.

[spurtech09]

spurs just got to move on this guy ain't coming to SA.....I don't think he's gonna help the spurs anyways.....

[mogrovejo]

It's probable that Splitter follows the example of Sabonis and not of Marc Gasol, Scola, Ginobili, Stojakovic or Jasikevicius because he's a soviet citizen and that complicates matters.

[mountainballer]

1. How much greater than 1%.

2. KBP as a reliable source.

yeah, two paradox are better than one. well, to be fair, point one isn't exactly a paradox. just nice to know there is a 98,99999999...% chance Tiago will be a Spurs next season.
I can live with that, knowing nothing is 100% but death and taxes.

[temujin]

Yup I know nothing about basketball...........

Last night, that 'idiot' with an IQ of a watermelon was a beast against OKC. His line of 11/9/2/2 in 21 minutes helped obviously but it was mainly his huge defensive plays (blocks and steals) down the stretch in the 2nd half that ignited the shorthanded bobcats to a comeback victory.

Another thing about Thomas is he doesn't concede anything around the rim. Durant found out the hard way when Thomas took his driving layup and sent it heading the opposite direction. Then Jeff Green found out when Thomas met him in mid-air and sent him crashing to the floor in pain, and the officials even whisted Green for using his off arm on the play.

People need to recognize this is an athlete's league now and there are few better than T squared.

Smart players don't play for losers.

But then, again, I understand you sympathize for these irrelevant players in irrelevnat teams that will never ever win anything.

[AFBlue]

1. How much greater than 1%.

2. KBP as a reliable source.

The second one jumped right out at me. I said to myself "did he just quote KBP? end thread".

[jjktkk]

While its highly doubtful Splitter will be a "savior", if he comes over next year, Splitter's has the size and skill set that would be a asset to a team obviously lacking front-line depth, like the Spurs.

[lotr1trekkie]

Manu came for less then he could have made in Euro. Scola was willing to come for a reasonable amount. His next contract will be huge. If Splitter is simply about $$$ then I say let him rot in Europe. We have 2 years left with Tim and Manu. Sign him or trade his rights for a high #1 draft choice or is that illegal. We need a center and another impact player.

[TJastal]

Smart players don't play for losers.

But then, again, I understand you sympathize for these irrelevant players in irrelevnat teams that will never ever win anything.

Yah, that sad bobcats franchise is headed nowhere now that MJ is the majority owner of the team. That darn MJ was such a loser.

[Mel_13]

Yah, that sad bobcats franchise is headed nowhere now that MJ is the majority owner of the team. That darn MJ was such a loser.

Kwame Brown

Adam Morrison

Sean May

Greatness as a player has not been a good predictor of success as an executive. Jordan's record to date in Washington and Charlotte has been below average.

Jerry West was a great exec, but there are many more great players who failed. Elgin Baylor, Isiah Thomas, Kevin McHale, Willis Reed, Wes Unseld, etc.

[TJastal]

Kwame Brown

Adam Morrison

Sean May

Greatness as a player has not been a good predictor of success as an executive. Jordan's record to date in Washington and Charlotte has been below average.

Jerry West was a great exec, but there are many more great players who failed. Elgin Baylor, Isiah Thomas, Kevin McHale, Willis Reed, Wes Unseld, etc.

Your right. Maybe that's why he's trying the ownership gig, which should keep him partially at bay from trying to make decisions concerning the affairs of the team.

You'd think, anyway.

MJ debate aside, I think the cats' look like one of the up and coming teams in the league, especially on the defensive side of things and that was even before they added Ratliff and Thomas.

[Mel_13]

Your right. Maybe that's why he's trying the ownership gig, which should keep him partially at bay from trying to make decisions concerning the affairs of the team.

You'd think, anyway.

MJ debate aside, I think the cats' look like one of the up and coming teams in the league, especially on the defensive side of things and that was even before they added Ratliff and Thomas.

We'll see. They have several overpaid players

MJ has already said that he won't pay the luxury tax. Take a look at the players under contract for next season. They're going to need someone to take a large contract off their hands in order to tender a 6M QO to Thomas and still remain below the tax. They're at 60M for 10 players without including Felton or Thomas. Over 52M just for Chandler, Wallace, Diaw, Jackson, Nazr, and Diop.