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    Pešič was named a new coach of Valencia
    oh. that was quick.
    great choice!

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    Pesic is a great coach. We will now see if Nando can be back at the level he had last year.

    And lol Valencia's management.
    They left Spahija go and sign a cheap coach to save money. They end up paying 2 coaches salaries including Pesic's one who should be quite expensive. Brilliant...

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    Valencia lost again yesterday, but De Colo played much better. He played mostly as a SG, i think he didn't play as PG at all.

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    Supposedly, Pesic is getting like 450,000 euros for just the rest of this season. Valencia is stupid because you can sign 2-3 solid players for that amount.
    ???
    please define "solid" in this context.
    yes, you can get a solid player for 150-200K per. for the Austrian league.
    450K for a man of Pesic caliber sounds like they got a discount for bringing him back to Spain.

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    first real big win from Valencia this season. 73-69 road win in Athens against Panathinaikos. De Colo played a good game, did well at creating his shot and was great in clutch time. (14 points, 4 reb. in 23 minutes)
    signs that the hiring of Pesic already pays off.
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    looks more and more as if Valencia did exactly the right move when they hired Pesic.
    they are 5-1 since he took over. (Euroleague and Spanish league combined)
    before Pesic they were 2-9.
    De Colo had a decent game in the Euroleague vs. Efes and a quiet game yesterday in an easy win in the Spanish league.
    but overall it really seems as if the coaching change has helped De Colo as well. currently it's just his still bad 3pt shooting that holds him back.

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    Many of the better players in big European leagues make between 80-150k euros. That is net though and they pay the agent fees and also for their cars and living.

    Even some of the biggest names in Europe make around 150k or less euros net. 150k euros net is similar to around what a minimum rookie NBA contract is.

    And just for comparison, the max you can earn in the D-League is 30,000 dollars gross and your agent fees don't get paid and they don't pay for your house or car.
    Housing is paid for in the D-League.

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    Oh, I didn't think it was. That's good because they don't have a good salary. I guess it makes sense because a lot of guys are making like $20,000.
    I would imagine that a lot of the players have to take side jobs to pay for their expenses. 20k plus housing just isn't much money.

    I'd be curious what some of the players' days jobs might be.

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    Valencia won against Union Olimpija and are part of the top 16. They will move on to the next stage of compe ion in the Euroleague.

    De Colo had 8 points, 3 rebs, 2 assists, 2 steals

    Javtokas had 10 points, 5 rebs

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    last game of the year 2010 for Nando last night and he played very well. his best game of the 2010-11 season in the acb so far. (23 points)
    Valencia has finally saved the season after the disaster start, sneaked into the Euroleague top 16 and is back in the mix in Spain as well.
    if Nando didn't continue to struggle badly from downtown, we could be happy again with what he shows. considering that Neal looks to have established the potential Nondo role till at least summer 2013, Nando might become more of a trade asset, than a future player. (Nando's contract with Valencia ends 2012, buyout 2011 should be something around 1 million $)

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    Euroleague top 16 draw:
    Valencia will meet Olympiakos, Fenerbahce and Zalgiris.
    not a bad draw. Oly is better, but Fener and Zalgiris can be beat.
    (Fenerbahce was pretty good in the regular season though)

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    Thanks for the updates.

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    thanks to a win over Fenerbahce in the last game of the Euroleague top 16 Valencia qualified for the PO and will meet Real Madrid there.
    Nando was pretty good last night (15 points) and finally also hit some 3s. (2-3)

    considering how bad Valencia started the season, the PO qualification is really a big surprise and a clear proof how great a coach Pesic is.

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    Nando De Colo was really played very well yesterday. He definately dominated each defender who tries to stop him and he was a difference maker.

    I think it's time to think adding him to roster next year.

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    Nando De Colo was really played very well yesterday. He definately dominated each defender who tries to stop him and he was a difference maker.

    I think it's time to think adding him to roster next year.
    Not even possible. He's not an NBA level player right now.
    And the Spurs has enough guards already. All we need is a solid big and a defensive wing. I think Hairston is the right one but obviously the Spurs FO don't think so.

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    Not even possible. He's not an NBA level player right now.
    And the Spurs has enough guards already. All we need is a solid big and a defensive wing. I think Hairston is the right one but obviously the Spurs FO don't think so.
    Infact we have only 4 guys in PG/SG position(Parker, Manu, Hill, Neal) and another one doesn't hurt us for next year. We can use James Anderson as a defensive (or offensive) wing if he can, if he can't we should find another one. And we also have 5 bigs in rotation and another one is not an emergency alert.

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    De Colo could take Quinn spot but coming to the NBA to be a 3rd string guard isn't really a smart move.
    The best for him is to stay in Europe and work on his game.

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    De Colo could take Quinn spot but coming to the NBA to be a 3rd string guard isn't really a smart move.
    The best for him is to stay in Europe and work on his game.
    I would say the best for him is probably to stay in Europe and forget about the NBA.
    I don't think he will ever be able to defend any decent NBA guard. So unless he becomes a dominant offensive player I don't see him having much success here.
    But someday he may become a great Euroleague player.

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    De Colo isn't an NBA calibre guard. Neither is Quinn but at least De Colo has youth on his side. He has the potential for improvement and the only way that happens is if he stays in Europe. I'm not holding my breath, though. Everytime I've seen him play I've been wholly unimpressed.

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    But maybe in 4-5 years time I could see him being a solid backup SG in the NBA.
    So.... he'll be better than Spanoulis.

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    in 5 years the dude will be almost 30 years old ..

    i don't think he will play in the NBA ever

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    So.... he'll be better than Spanoulis.
    He's already better now.

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    De Colo will NEVER EVER be half as good as Spanoulis is. NEVER.
    You said De Colo would be better than VSpan. Can't have it both ways.

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    De Colo:

    http://www.euroleague.net/compe io...asoncode=e2010


    De Colo will NEVER EVER be half as good as Spanoulis is. NEVER.
    By the way I am surprised you failed to notice De Colo improvement for the last two games. You were so eager to cover his first steps at the European top level... I thought you were a fan.

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