Manu to sign extension

[vander]

So your plan to improve the team was to have him walk for nothing then?

if some Isaiah Thomas wannabe offered him too much (anything over 8 mil yr. IMO), then yeah, the Spurs' Dollar is best spent elsewhere.

he's worth the MLE at most, anyone who thinks he can keep playing like this for 3 more years is a fool. he couldn't even play like this for most of this season.

[rascal]

Don't mean to put a damper on the news...I'm as excited as anyone that Manu will be with this team the next few years. Without him it became a HUGE question mark as to whether the Spurs would continue to contend.

If healthy, he's worth every bit of that contract. I just worry about Manu playing that last year for $14M at age 35 and potentially without all-time NBA great Tim Duncan.

Enough of that worry....awesome news!

Go Spurs!

The spurs will not contend with or without Manu if they don't get better in the front court.

[rascal]

oh BTW... CROFL Vander, CROFL ducks, CROFL rascal, CROFL TD21

I said he was going to sign with the Spurs.

[baseline bum]

if some Isaiah Thomas wannabe offered him too much (anything over 8 mil yr. IMO), then yeah, the Spurs' Dollar is best spent elsewhere.

he's worth the MLE at most, anyone who thinks he can keep playing like this for 3 more years is a fool. he couldn't even play like this for most of this season.

The Spurs have no dollars to spend. If they let Ginobili, Mason, Bogans, Mahinmi, Hairston, and Bonner walk, they still don't have a cent of capspace. Not a single penny.

So basically, you say the Spurs best way to improve is to let Ginobili walk for nothing while not paying anyone else?

[rascal]

Considering he's been underpaid all his career i'd say it's fair.

You pay for what a player will give you in the future, paying for past success will lead to failure.

[rayray2k8]

Good to hear. Contract is high, but Manu will stay a spur. To all 4 you spurs fans who dont like Manu.. Go yourself. He managed to salvage this season and the spurs FO knows it.
If they tried to low ball him on an extension, he would have walked. It's funny that all the Manu haters are also Bonner fans...
I don't get that.

[vander]

Yes, it isn't that complicated. Signing one of the teams best players to an extension makes the team much more compe ive next year than letting him walk for nothing does.

you are fooled by these last 3 weeks. you think he has found the fountain of youth and health.

not so, he will be the Manu of the December-February at best and if healthy for the length of that deal

[rascal]

The Spurs have no dollars to spend. If they let Ginobili, Mason, Bogans, Mahinmi, Hairston, and Bonner walk, they still don't have a cent of capspace. Not a single penny.

So basically, you say the Spurs best way to improve is to let Ginobili walk for nothing while not paying anyone else?

Could they not have made a sign and trade to bolster the frontline. If the frontline is not upgraded the spurs still will not be contenders.

[My Fault]

if some Isaiah Thomas wannabe offered him too much (anything over 8 mil yr. IMO), then yeah, the Spurs' Dollar is best spent elsewhere.

he's worth the MLE at most, anyone who thinks he can keep playing like this for 3 more years is a fool. he couldn't even play like this for most of this season.

Judging by your post you haven't watched basketball very long and don't know very much. Congrats now everyone realizes those two very things.

[DAF86]

if some Isaiah Thomas wannabe offered him too much (anything over 8 mil yr. IMO), then yeah, the Spurs' Dollar is best spent elsewhere.

he's worth the MLE at most, anyone who thinks he can keep playing like this for 3 more years is a fool. he couldn't even play like this for most of this season.

That's around what McDyess is making, do you think Manu's value is equal to Dice's?

[DAF86]

You pay for what a player will give you in the future, paying for past success will lead to failure.

And how can you possibly know that?

[timtonymanu]

awesome news. This means the door isnt closed yet. We still need number 5.

GO SPURS GO!!!

[rascal]

you are fooled by these last 3 weeks. you think he has found the fountain of youth and health.

not so, he will be the Manu of the December-February at best and if healthy for the length of that deal

Agree opening up the bank for 3 years can doom the team. I do not expect him to play at this level even for all of the first year let alone all 3 years.

He will be the player we saw in the first half of the season for the majority of this 3 year contract.

[rascal]

And how can you possibly know that?

It is foolish to think he will be playing like an all star for the lenght of this contract. His age and injury frequency.

[baseline bum]

Could they not have made a sign and trade to bolster the frontline. If the frontline is not upgraded the spurs still will not be contenders.

Of course they couldn't have made a sign-and-trade to bolster anything. Have you paid any attention to the way sign and trades work?

1) Team X has capspace to sign player Y outright from Team Z.

2) Player Y's agent tells Team Z to do a sign and trade so Player Y gets more years and/or higher yearly raises.

3) Team X gives Team Z a 2nd round pick or a scrub-ass player it doesn't want (e.g., Portland giving the Spurs Steve Smith for DA).

4) Team Z gets ed.

[ducks]

spurs are fools for offering him that much
unless it is not all guaranteed

[alchemist]

Agree opening up the bank for 3 years can doom the team. I do not expect him to play at this level even for all of the first year let alone all 3 years.

He will be the player we saw in the first half of the season for the majority of this 3 year contract.

http://www.txlottery.org/

You got the numbers?

[vander]

The Spurs have no dollars to spend. If they let Ginobili, Mason, Bogans, Mahinmi, Hairston, and Bonner walk, they still don't have a cent of capspace. Not a single penny.

So basically, you say the Spurs best way to improve is to let Ginobili walk for nothing while not paying anyone else?

we have no MLE?

obviously I would prefer that all the other GM's are smart, no one offers him more than 3/21, and he decides to stay with SA for even less than that.

but how can you possibly justify signing him for 2x what he's worth right after he has an anomalous 3 weeks of exceptional play without even knowing what the market for him is, or if he'll even finish the season healthy...

badly overpaying players is what bad teams do.

which actually does make sense, without that ping pong ball miracle of 97, the Spurs probably are a bad team for most of the past decade.

[rascal]

Of course they couldn't have made a sign-and-trade to bolster anything. Have you paid any attention to the way sign and trades work?

1) Team X has capspace to sign player Y outright from Team Z.

2) Player Y's agent tells Team Z to do a sign and trade so Player Y gets more years and/or higher yearly raises.

3) Team X gives Team Z a 2nd round pick or a scrub-ass player it doesn't want (e.g., Portland giving the Spurs Steve Smith for DA).

4) Team Z gets ed.

Not if team Z doesn't accept it. With manu's recent play there would be some sweet offers.

[Bruno]

WOIA reports say that Spurs and Manu's agent are still talking about how much of the third year would be guaranteed.

$14.1M in 2012-2013 for a 35 years old Manu is a lot of money. I'm not sure Manu's agent could convince Spurs to fully guarantee it.

[vander]

And how can you possibly know that?

I think it's safe to assume that Durant will be pretty good in the future... LeBron too, he's probably worth as much as you can pay him under the CBA...

no, no, that's just conjecture, that's just my opinion, none of us could possibly actually know that
all we know is that Manu was great from 2002-2007, so we should pay him as much as possible for 2010-2013.

we should probably extent TD another 3 years for the maximum allowed as well... got to keep your best players

[FkLA]

Thank god almighty, I mightve honestly cried like a little if I saw Ginobili in another uniform. Worth all of it and than some. Best day of the damn season.

[baseline bum]

we have no MLE?

Probably not, after the new CBA is worked out. If there is an MLE, than the Spurs still have it after signing Manu.

obviously I would prefer that all the other GM's are smart, no one offers him more than 3/21, and he decides to stay with SA for even less than that.

And I'd like to be able to crush a piece of coal in my hand and make it into a diamond. $7 million a year isn't going to happen with all the money out there this summer.

but how can you possibly justify signing him for 2x what he's worth right after he has an anomalous 3 weeks of exceptional play without even knowing what the market for him is, or if he'll even finish the season healthy...

I didn't try to justify $40 million. I said keeping him was better than letting him walk for nothing.

badly overpaying players is what bad teams do.

So the Lakers suck? The Magic? The Cavs? The Nuggets? The Mavericks?

which actually does make sense, without that ping pong ball miracle of 97, the Spurs probably are a bad team for most of the past decade.

With the front office finding gems like Parker and Ginobili in the draft, I highly doubt that.

[anonoftheinternets]

http://www.txlottery.org/

You got the numbers?

[rascal]

I think it's safe to assume that Durant will be pretty good in the future... LeBron too, he's probably worth as much as you can pay him under the CBA...

no, no, that's just conjecture, that's just my opinion, none of us could possibly actually know that
all we know is that Manu was great from 2002-2007, so we should pay him as much as possible for 2010-2013.

we should probably extent TD another 3 years for the maximum allowed as well... got to keep your best players

But he has been great for the last 6 weeks.