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has anyone said beno was the cesond coming like barry?
So Barry is playing great?
has anyone said beno was the cesond coming like barry?
He's like Horry...you can't judge his impact by stats.
You look at team performance, +/-, and W-L record...and you see his value...
And BTW...he was 12 3 pointers away from being a 40% shooter...in a new role.
Only in San Antonio does a guy outshooting Jack and Kerr in his first season mean that he sucks....
That's fine with me. I think Bowen CAN be a liability with his poor shooting and FT% in a close game. I also understand that Barry is not as good a defender as Bowen is.
But I think Barry should be in the final minutes of close games, if for no other reason to prepare him for the eventuality where Bruce or Manu is is foul trouble.
He's not the second coming...but he is a very good player...and no one is saying he is the second coming...only proving how ignroant the Barry haters are...
Anyone with an objective mind will admit that the Barry haters got ing assrapred in this thread.
Deal with it ducky!
What do you want me to say? Do these numbers suck?
MPG -- 26.5
PPG -- 7.2
FG% -- .481
3P% -- .389
FT% -- .833
Reb -- 2.2
Assists -- 2.5
How anyone can hate Barry at this point is beyond me....
Hate him when he leaves next year to go to the Atlanta Hawks, then cry about it for years afterwords... "Oh, I wish Brent Barry was back. We would have won Championships like in 2005 only if we had Barry."
It's riduculous what some people expect and/or selectively remember from ROLE PLAYERS.
Barry doing great for his role. Period.
would you keep big dog or barry if you could only keep one whott?
LMAO...you are right!
Are those playoff numbers?
I'll answer that. We'll get whoever is the best deal.
YES. http://www.nba.com/spurs/stats/
(maybe if people actually looked at his stats, they wouldn't be so quick to judge)
Hmmm...
It's a tough question...
Let me be clear on this...Glenn Robinson is a better player than Brent Barry. He's also younger.
But he also has a history of alcohol and at ude problems...
What you have here is one guy that used to being a supporting player(not a role player) with a good at ude and one guy who is used to dominating the ball and carrying the team but has kind of a bad rep...
It's tough question...I think it's just bad karma to trade guys who took less to come here though and have been stand out team players, even if they have underachived in the stat dept...this means Rasho and Barry.
FWIW...I think the Spurs will try and trade Barry and Rasho this summer in order to bring Scola over and resign Bigg Dogg...it's the only way they can do it IMO. And if they use the MLE on Bigg Dogg they can't use it on Scola next summer when his contract his up...and they will lose his rights or have to trade him without leverage...
But I do think the Spurs want Bigg Dogg back...you'd have to be a fool not too...
Bigg Dogg playing his A game is right there with Manu and near Duncan as far as his ability to carry a team in a game.
I think if spurs resign horry
they may leave scola over one more year and resign big dog with all the mle
but it al ldepends on the new cba
You know what would be awesome?
IF the new CBA gives you a separate exception for second round picks and does away with the lux tax...
This would mean the Spurs could have Robinson, Barry, Scola...resign Devin, keep Horry...even keep Rasho and Nazr...if they wanted...
That team would dominate the NBA for the next 3 or 4 seasons.
(maybe if people don't lump everyone who questions a player's performance together, they wouldn't be so quick jump on them)
I never said Brent sucked in the playoffs. I had said he hadn't brought much this season, and wasn't forfilling his role as a 3 point shooter. Of the threes he has hit, not many have been crucial for Spur victories. I don't think he has performed that badly in the post season so far, but that is only 6 games to draw a conclusion from. Maybe his role with team has become different than what he was originally brought here for?
If they sign Bigg Dogg with the MLE this summer they can't use it to sign Scola when his Tau contract is up...and then they could lose Scola, a hot international prospect, for nothing....
Also Horry has a player option for next season...get him to play it out and then give him a wink wink deal to take care of him once we get his early bird rights...
Horry will go for that and he could have have a contract like Ferry had when he retired...one that is a valuable trade commodity, a team option in the second year, for the MLE or something....
But the real problem is Big Dogg or Scola...right now there is no way to get them both without a trade. Maybe the new CBA will change that.
we might even be able to see what Javtokas has to offer...
Fair enough. I think Beno exceeded expectations as well (was Barry supposed to play point?)
All in all, so far it's pretty damn amazing what this team as accomplished with all the injuries and new starters. I mean, how long did Nasr get to start before being thrown into the playoffs for the first time? And Robinson?!? Amazing, considering he hasn't even played most of the year.
I don't know if the coaching staff is just that good or we're just lucky as , (or maybe a little of both).
There was talk about the MLE being split in the new CBA
His contract won't be up if he doesn't buy himself out. If he does, the Spurs have a certain amount of time to sign him and only have to make something like a minimum offer to keep his rights if he signs to play again in Europe (I'd have to look up the exact terms).If they sign Bigg Dogg with the MLE this summer they can't use it to sign Scola when his Tau contract is up...and then they could lose Scola, a hot international prospect, for nothing....We'll have his early Bird rights this summer.Also Horry has a player option for next season...get him to play it out and then give him a wink wink deal to take care of him once we get his early bird rights...
He's got 1 year left on his contract...if we wait until next summer we don't have to buy him out. Basically if we wait until next summer it's Gordan Giricek part 2, bring him over or lose him...yes we can trade him...and yes were aren't as likely to get as much in return if we do.
Although since he won't have a buyout it's possible we could use the LLE to get him...
Personally I don't want to trade Scola...I am not sold on his NBA ability yet...but that doesn't mean I don't want to give him a try.
We'll have his early Bird rights this summer.
How can we have Horry's early bird rights when we renounced his rights last summer? That's what you said earlier...
You are contradicting yourself here...blatantly.
You gave me and said I didn't know what I was talking about when I talked about using his early bird rights this summer....You alluded to the fact that they renounced his rights last summer when they opted out of the second year of his deal...
Barry is Due!
Believe
You're also due for a growth spurt... has that happened yet?
Keep it to the topic. Don't waste forum space.
-God
Thats on topic... I'm basically saying that hes not due for whatever you think hes "due" for.
-your dad
Go back and read it. I told you then what I am telling you now -- we'll have early Bird rights on Horry this summer.You gave me and said I didn't know what I was talking about when I talked about using his early bird rights this summer....You alluded to the fact that they renounced his rights last summer when they opted out of the second year of his deal...
Then apologize.
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