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    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
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    So, youre saying the producers and directors of those named shows consciously push a negative stereotype about black people?

    ...and that this practice is a widespread "epidemic" amongst media and entertainment?
    I never used the word epidemic. I never said anything about consciously pushing anything. I linked an article about a study that made some very clear points. Why are you you artificially embellishing what I said with your own assumptions of what I said? If you don't like the situation presented in the study then present evidence its not occurring but there's no need to play it up in order to make it seem outlandish.

    Screams victim mentality to me. When you want to be a victim, youll always be a victim.
    Nice completely irrelevant talking point. Either this situation is occurring or its not occurring. I provided you with an article on a study that shows evidence for it.

    You might have forgotten, but I dont give a about BET, its existence or its implications to people who want to be offended (namely people who argue the "WET" angle).
    Your personal views on BET are pretty irrelevant to the study I posted. You may not care, but you came into the thread and post your "...and?" implying that the post I made had no context or point.

    But pointing out that black people in television shows are somewhat associated with negative attributes, to me, says nothing at all.
    I personally find it very telling and important. If television shows can have an effect of pushing negative stereotypes that can be easily counteracted I think its worthwhile to study.

    Also, notice SciAm never stated statistics, only used words like "less" and "more", not specifics. I wonder why that is?
    Because they're not printing the entire study in a article snippet / blog post? The study is or will be available when published in a journal which I would imagine has happened or will happen.

    With their lack of clarification, at least from the excerpt you posted, you might be talking about a very low percentage of subjects who even displayed the characteristics in question.

    Just doesnt seem relevant. Unless youre looking to play the victim role...are you?
    I don't understand how posting a study is playing any role. As I said above, either the situation is occurring or its not. The police don't go up to some one reporting a crime and ask them if "they're looking to play a victim role". I mean the article also states how they had success overriding those negative feelings but you fail to mention that at all because you're too busy worried about people playing victims.

    There are no roles to be "played". Either something occurs or it doesn't.

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    Cut ups, never could respond to those.

    As it were..

    Yes, I see the relevance of a study that says black people are portrayed poorly on television in a topic concering BET.

    The reason I asked "...and?" is because I am asking what YOU are trying to say with that reference.

    If its just an off-the-cuff, out of nowhere reference, fine.

    If not, it could be interpreted multiple ways, two of which I am interested to know are...

    1) Are you suggesting BET is portraying a better or more positive image than other media?
    2) Are you suggesting Americans can be (lack of a better term) conditioned to accept a more positive outlook on black people and culture via watching BET (or the like)?

    If you were just throwing it out there with no point at all, the "...and?" still stands. If you had a point, make it.
    Last edited by DarkReign; 06-30-2010 at 02:09 PM. Reason: added "or the like"

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    Live by what you Speak. DarkReign's Avatar
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    BTW, my victim schtick has to do with government sanctioned racism. It doesnt bother me as much as others, or even much at all, but it doesnt make it less bull .

    Doesnt matter to me, the family just transferred ownership of the companies into my wife and sister-in-laws names and we now qualify to compete in a government-sanctioned racism scheme. Military contracts and automotive single-sourced status abound and secured. All without benefitting any minority at all.

    Play the game, loopholes suck.

    All the Minority Company status is, is a means to appease politically correct re s (and politicians) that we as a society are making strides via statistical evidence that is manipulated at the submission level. It doesnt work, it will never work, end of discussion.

    What private charities/foundations/people do with their money is their business. What government does is everyone's business and my tax dollars should not be used against me.
    Last edited by DarkReign; 06-30-2010 at 02:12 PM.

  4. #204
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    lolllllz

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    There will be outside negative influences at every turn of life and that is something that our children must be shielded against. Not shielded by keeping them from being exposed to it. But by shielding them with the wisdom to recognize and reject those negative influences.
    And what about racist parents?

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    And what about racist parents?

    I am glad you asked that question ploto. You are now seeking answers beyond the top level and getting to the root cause of our problems.

    As we all know, lost children sometimes choose to continue on as lost adults and perpetuate the cycle of hatred, ignorance, and selfishness, in varying levels and combinations.

    This is our problem.

    While children are rightfully removed from homes where there are obvious signs of physical abuse, too often the child suffering from mental abuse is left to find their own way.

    This is where we must come in. There comes a time in these children's lives when they realize they are not being loved in the right way. When they realize something is wrong. They feel pain, and often reach out.

    Who is there to take the hands of the children that are reaching out?

    I feel it is my life mission to ensure that each and every one of these children have someone that truly cares available to take their hand and love them they way every child deserves to be loved. With care, with respect, with the concern and ability to pass wisdom on to these little minds so that they can be better prepared for the traps of the world, and learn to avoid them.

    I am just beginning my journey.
    Many are already on this path. I will seek to join them.
    I will seek to be yet another point of light to which the lost can turn.

    Spurstalk is great. And it is great practice for discussing real world issues.

    But everyone here should know better by now. I don't think there are many lost children on this site. Only certain people that choose to be lost, that choose to be angry, and that seek out confrontation, mixed in with the many good people here of course, who's posts too often get lost in the noise of the former.

    The bottomline is that we can all do our part. We must start within ourselves. Then get our homes in order, and move forward from there. Together, working towards the same goal, our love can change the world.

    May God Bless us all.

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    White people have been the victims of racism just as much as black people have. Ever heard of the Holocaust?
    It has been 3 months to the day, and this still stands as the standard of stupidity on this forum. There is no way the bar could be raised any higher than this.

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    Meh, I will ask my question in a new thread.
    Last edited by lebomb; 09-29-2010 at 10:56 AM.

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    Meh, I will ask my question in a new thread.
    Lol "edit"

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    White people have been the victims of racism just as much as black people have. Ever heard of the Holocaust?
    That should be somebody's sig.

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    PHEnominal. INcredible. Absolutely RIdiculous.


    After dropping one BOMBs about the holocaust being racism against white people, Jacob, the 26 year old virgin, goes on to explain the quote by accidentally embarrassing himself dropping another bombs .

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    Is BET racist? Well, it's owned by white Jews, so I don't really know how to answer that.

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    As far as playing grown folks r&b it used to be da s. Now it sucks big time

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    White people have been the victims of racism just as much as black people have. Ever heard of the Holocaust?
    Dang, this Whoopi Goldberg thing has to be hitting hard on conservative Gaycob here. Probly has to leave the room Chris style when his parents watch the View now..

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    nobody watches the view

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    White people have been the victims of racism just as much as black people have. Ever heard of the Holocaust?
    Legendary post. Absolute perfection. (Chef's kiss)

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