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    this contract pretty much IS his contract value.

    Tony is very good, but he isn't a max player at this point.
    There are a lot of $ between what he did get and a "max contract"...

    A deal at around 60m$/4 years or >70m$/5 years seemed "reasonable" for us (the spurs) and he could probably have gotten more as a free agent to a "desperate for a PG" team... (even with a new CBA)

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    The Lakers and Magic have elite PG'S ????????
    I wanted to make it "short"...

    But to answer you, I didn't mention those two teams, because they are so much "way over the cap", with not enough cap room next summer, that they were not even relevant in term of "prospection"...

    I thought about it, but I don't see anyway Tony could have joined any of those teams... The only way was a sign and trade, but do you really imagine Pop accepting to trade Tony to the Lakers?

    Feel free to prove me wrong!

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    Tony answered all his doubters about his commitment AND did the Spurs a giant favor financially, and STILL haters gonna hate.

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    wow, that is quite the bargain.

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    All the "RJ haters" have been grasping at straws trying to imagine negative ramifications and panic stricken scenarios where RJ's contract was going to lock the Spurs out of making any other beneficial deals and mire the team in bottom dweller territory for years.
    This isn't gloating...or calling scoreboard? It gives the impression that you knew full and well that the Spurs were going to get a discount on Parker...which couldn't be further from the truth.
    I wasn't the one who brought up RJ on this thread either. btw tbh imo . . . see my post . . .
    I know...it was his catcher Manu4Tres. All I am saying is that bringing it up at all in regards to calling out those who criticized the contract is flat stupid.

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    I'm wondering if that means Timmy will stay longer than we thought'. Like 3 or 4 more years.

    I think Timmy could still play in a high level until 36

    That would be awesome

    +1

    Even without Tony's extention, that's a no brainer for me!!!

    I see him renagociate his actual contract (a la RJ) and extend it for a couple years... (until Tony's contract end)

    I feel like I'm on a US presidential campain : "Four More Years! Four More Years! ........


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    i'm not a parker hater but this pretty much seals together this team. i would prefer if the spurs waited for a while to see how well this team can compete before offering the extension. like it or not, parker was really the only large trade chip the spurs had. if things were not working out and a very nice trade opportunity comes up, then the spurs always have that exit plan. but, can't complain on 50million/4 years. if parker returns to all star form, then he might cost a whole lot more.

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    Gotta be because Eva loves Whataburger. awesome news though! Props to Tony!
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    holy crap that's a great deal for the Spurs.

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    Once again proving half the articles saying a player wants to leave are pure bs

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    There are a lot of $ between what he did get and a "max contract"...

    A deal at around 60m$/4 years or >70m$/5 years seemed "reasonable" for us (the spurs) and he could probably have gotten more as a free agent to a "desperate for a PG" team... (even with a new CBA)
    those are the key words. he wouldn't be the first to learn that "could probably have gotten more" more often backfires than it in fact materializes.

    and I know what max money is. I was referring to the commenst that mad his signing look as if he was a max player signing for the money he did.

    (btw. I wouldn't have called 60/4 reasonable. 15M per is a lot, especially when considering it also generates tax in 2012 and that in his last 2 years Tony might not be able to deliver as he used to.)

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    This isn't gloating...or calling scoreboard? It gives the impression that you knew full and well that the Spurs were going to get a discount on Parker...which couldn't be further from the truth.
    No. I did say that I thought TP would resign and that, when he did, he would accept less money than he would have likely fetched on the open market. I'm not a clairvoyant. I'm just using common sense here.

    I know...it was his catcher Manu4Tres. All I am saying is that bringing it up at all in regards to calling out those who criticized the contract is flat stupid.
    Although, I am catching all the flack, I didn't bring it up. I was specifically referring to those who said that RJ's contract would keep the Spurs from re-signing Parker. I have no ing clue why you and DPG seem so personally offended by this statement since you both claim to have never said that.

    And, just for clarification . . . I have . . . not once . . . ever stated that I liked RJ's contract.

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    Nyyyceeee!

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    Could Hill soon be on the market???

    Why? So we can sign another old corpse to back up Tony?

    Fail.

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    This is TP's time to shine (again). A healthy, happy TP could make a huge difference. I hope he lights it up this year.

    Let us proceed...

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    I knew he had to be somebody's troll.

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    I actually quoted you because you made the dumb ass comment. It makes sense that when the person makes a blanket comment, that he or she is quoted.

    I still very well could hurt the rebuilding process and getting TP at a steal had nothing to do with RJ's contact. The Spurs are still LT payers next year.
    How do you figure THAT? Tony's salary for next year will be lower than this year, McDyess is retiring and will only count $2.6M (half salary guaranteed). Besides, there might not even BE a next year.

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    those are the key words. he wouldn't be the first to learn that "could probably have gotten more" more often backfires than it in fact materializes.

    and I know what max money is. I was referring to the commenst that mad his signing look as if he was a max player signing for the money he did.

    (btw. I wouldn't have called 60/4 reasonable. 15M per is a lot, especially when considering it also generates tax in 2012 and that in his last 2 years Tony might not be able to deliver as he used to.)
    I guess that by the end of the season (depending on Tony's production), one of us will be right...

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    This is absolutely wonderful news!

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    Besides, there might not even BE a next year.
    C'mon, don't be so pessimistic....even the believers in the 2012 doomsday say we still have 2 more years to live.

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    GREAT news!!!!


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    This is TP's time to shine (again). A healthy, happy TP could make a huge difference. I hope he lights it up this year.

    Let us proceed...
    ... And a TP who doesn't care anymore about the impact/apreciation(...) OF HIS STATS !!

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    ill admit i was a big time advocate of parker being traded, and as the years went by i thought " no one wants to do business with the spurs" and it seems like no one was going to give us for parker so why not have the best of both worlds!?!?!

    parker and hill because if we lost parker we would have hill but no longer that solid backup. so i was gradually rooting to keep em all but hey you cant beat this deal and this is really the best scenario.

    i was hoping for an allstar in return (trade) soon realizing no one would bite. but hey some of you were right the whole time and i was definitely wrong about his loyalty here. anyhow my loyalty is to the spurs and this is for the good of the org. and im ecstatic !!!

    So RJ deal =wow Splitters deal=holy parkers deal= priceless however i do believe it has everything to do with his national team commitment i think thats the reason for this amazing deal

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    be intersting to see what cp3 gets now

    this is great news

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    reasonable deal for both Spurs AND Tony.
    good to hear he stays with the Spurs for the next 5 seasons.

    what I don't get: people run around as if the Spurs just have signed him for half his market value or less.
    this contract pretty much IS his contract value. maybe a little hometown discount and a little security discount as well. that's it.
    do you really think Tony gets that much more on the 2011 free agent market? at 29 with about 900 NBA games on his wheels.
    sorry, but that's a bit naive. Tony is very good, but he isn't a max player at this point.
    (and the RJ er signing doesn't change this. the RJ contract was a result of tax implications and the limited options of the Spurs on the free agent market. RJ was just at the right time on the right place. lucky guy, such things happen, even in real live)

    This Tons re signing sets some more points IMO. Spurs will very likely be tax payers next season. question is, if they are willing to pay tax in 2011-12 (when either Tim and manu will be a year older), will staying under the threshold in this season really be a major goal? (assuming Splitter plays well, IMO there is a good chance they trade Dice for a wing player during the season, even if this move might push them over the threshold)

    and it means a pretty difficult situation in 2012, if Tim in fact retires. Spurs can likely either re sign Hill, or try to get a premium big man via free agency to replace Tim, but likely not both. there might be more need for the big man than for Hill. (especially if Anderson is a gem)
    Market value is what you can get from desperate teams. NYKs would have paid him the MAX amount and the MAX years they could, no questions.

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