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    wow, he's talking about you, d.

    he don't know his place, do he.

    And "socialist" is really code for the n-word. Got it.

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    if you say so

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    Why was Obama called to do this in the first place?

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    For your amusement...got in an e-mail


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    Birtherism is a racist LIE, one of many Repug tactics, meant to distract the sheeple and bubbas from the real problems.

    Just like bogus deficit panic is a lie to divert the country from the real problems.

    As long as the VRWC/Repugs control/pollute the public discourse with their LIES, USA's conversion into UCA and general decline will continue.
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    For your amusement...got in an e-mail

    That white guy doesn't read the National Review.

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    The Top 10 Most Deliciously Comical Birther Denials To Obama’s Birth Certificate





    10. It can’t be real because in 1961 they would have wrote negro

    9. There was already a birth certificate released from Kenya for Obama, so he is a dual citizen

    8. The thing is photoshopped. I can see the pixels when I zoom way in

    7. Since his father was not a US citizen, it doesn’t matter where he was born

    6. Why did it take so long if it was really real?

    5. David A. Sinclair, the M.D. who purportedly signed the do ent, died nearly eight years ago at age 81, so he is conveniently unavailable to answer questions about Obama’s reported birth

    4. It doesn’t matter because he renounced his citizenship when he moved to Indonesia

    3. There is an x marked in the ‘twins’ box, indicating this belongs to an unnamed twin brother of Barack, not the president

    2. This is not a birth certificate

    1. HOW ABOUT THE FACT THAT THIS NEW BIRTH CERTIFICATE HAS THE WRONG NAME ON IT? WE ALL KNOW THAT “OBAMA” IS NOT HIS REAL NAME. IF THIS WERE REAL, IT WOULD SAY “BARRY SATORO” ON IT—NOT BAROCK OBAMA!!!!!! WHY HAS NO ONE ELSE ASKED THIS??????????

    http://newsjunkiepost.com/2011/04/27...h-certificate/

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    That video about Obama's birth certificate was a fail in my opinion. The guy sounded very bitter. If blacks want to be called Americans so bad then why not get rid of the term "African-American"? White Americans are not called European-Americans. This whole Obama birth certificate is a joke in my opinion. There is a birth certificate that says he was born in America. Besides, why would people want him not to be born in America? It would make his presidency void. Do people not realize how many problems that would create? Who the would be president? I do think it's highly possible that this birther movement might have actually been started by Obama's cronies to deflect attention from the ty job he has done as president. I also think that it should be required for any human being that wants to run for president in America to show proof that they were born in America. It doesn't matter if you're white, black, brown, yellow, purple, blue, green, red, etc..., you're gonna have to prove that you were born in America to be able to run for president.

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    You're a very whiny white person.

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    That video about Obama's birth certificate was a fail in my opinion. The guy sounded very bitter. If blacks want to be called Americans so bad then why not get rid of the term "African-American"? White Americans are not called European-Americans. This whole Obama birth certificate is a joke in my opinion. There is a birth certificate that says he was born in America. Besides, why would people want him not to be born in America? It would make his presidency void. Do people not realize how many problems that would create? Who the would be president? I do think it's highly possible that this birther movement might have actually been started by Obama's cronies to deflect attention from the ty job he has done as president. I also think that it should be required for any human being that wants to run for president in America to show proof that they were born in America. It doesn't matter if you're white, black, brown, yellow, purple, blue, green, red, etc..., you're gonna have to prove that you were born in America to be able to run for president.
    He showed it and a judge approved it... BEFORE HE BECAME PRESIDENT.

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    "I seen it on t' internet, it must be true"



    Seriously though, my first thought was that Adobe has an Optical Charactor Recognition aspect that will allow you to copy and paste sections directly out of what amounts to a picture. This would explain layers. An easy way to check this would be to scan something along the same lines, and then see if that automatically has layers.

    I would note that the layers consisted entirely of charactors that OCR might recognize, and all the other lines in the do ent, like the borders between data fields, a signature, and some odd charactors here and there.

    Oddly enough the comments section of the Youtube video had remarks to this exact effect.

    I wouldnt do the victory dance just yet. Some Adobe Illustrator user friends of mine have theorized that the State of Hawaii probably has a high end scanner which created the layers when they created this for Obama, one of them being an OCR layer (Optical Character Recognition). If you notice the layer that peels off is all the letters which are recognizable by OCR software, the ones that remain are the ones that OCR can't puzzle out, so it doesnt include them on a layer.
    Congrats on stepping on your , yet again.

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    Zoom in on box "5b. Hour". Check out the "M" on P.M.



    You go with your bad self, checkin' out them "M"s and keeping us sheeple up to date with the righteous shizzle.


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    Funny how Trump has no problem doing an impromptu press conference sans prepared answers, screened questions from reporters, and against a hostile media.
    Sans prepared answers?

    He ignored several questions entirely.

    I wouldn't need prepared answers either, if I did that.

    Not exactly a glowing endorsement, IMO, but if that is what you want from your heros, have at it.

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    Is my point not valid about the white around the black characters?

    If so, why?
    Can you tell me why you think the white around the charactors is important?

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    Reading some of these conspiracies around the birth certificate. It's good stuff.

    I really hope they find this U K L lee guy who signed at the bottom. You know he/she was just some clerk screwing around at work one day.

    "Hey Fred, check it out. I'm going to sign my name "Ukulele" on this one."

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    Now the email forwards have started... just got this one forwarded to me today...


    FW: The Joke's on you, America - A Closer Look at Obama's Birth Certificate

    The Joke’s on you, America –
    A Closer Look at Obama’s Birth Certificate


    Fellow Patriot,

    President Barack Obama’s long form birth certificate released at last – we knew it was too good to be true.

    In his attempts to quell Donald Trump’s demands for the never-released long-form birth certificate, President Barack Obama may have just landed himself even deeper in the controversy.

    After closer investigation, sources say the do ent has been altered and that whoever did it wasn’t ever very clever at doing so.

    Don’t believe us?

    If you have Adobe Illustrator, don’t take our word for it. Do your own investigation:
    1. Download the PDF from the White House website – it’s the “official copy.”
    2. Upload the file into Adobe Illustrator.
    3. LOOK at the entire image itself. Notice the light blue border? That’s the PDF segment that was dropped in the background, which happened to be green “safety paper.” Get it? They just took they safety paper background and then dropped in a picture.
    4. LOOK at the mother’s”occupation” – the “Non” on “None” has been altered. What was there before it was tampered with?
    5. LOOK at the “Accepted date” (bottom right). This has also been altered. WHY?
    6. LOOK! The other “Accepted date” has ALSO been changed. Once again, WHY?
    We’re not public records experts by any means, but it does not take anything more than common sense to know that President Barack Hussein Obama is trying to pull a fast one on us and discredit Donald Trump – who, if he chooses to run for president in 2012, will be President Obama’s toughest rival.
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    Just for fun, let’s look again. We’re betting you won’t see this story covered by the leftwing networks’ broadcasts.

    Back to the dates – they are clearly altered just like the “None” filling in the mother’s occupation. Here’s a well-enhanced (1200%) version of one of the dates. Doesn’t that pesky “1” look a little different?

    This is the original file folks, straight from the White House website.

    If you want to really nitpick, check out the clipboard’s contents. All the cuts are there. See how the certification was clearly overlaid on a background and the contents “adjusted”.

    And look at this do ent number.

    It’s awfully suspect that onlyone of the numbers printed on the page allows the background to bleed through AND aliased the pixels in the background itself.

    Do you remember all the flak taken by the Hawaii Department of Health official who signed an affidavit swearing that the record didn’t exist? Looks like at least one person has been telling the truth, eh?

    If this were simply a case where a photograph of the registrar’s book was dropped into a background or the image of the birth certificate was laid over the constructed background, well maybe it could be argued that it made wide-scale public viewing of the do ent possible or easier.

    But the altered contents – now that leaves a lot of questions to be asked and answers to be demanded. You’ve seen the writing on the wall – or at least the fishy contents on his birth certificate for yourself.

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    Quick, someone get Dan Brown! The microdot in the I contains the real information!

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    No .

    Something stinks, like the Bush records were proven...

    I honestly expected an indisputable copy. This really stinks, as it is very disputable.
    This thread is hilarious.

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    It's so obviously "altered", that I can only imagine that this was done just to with people.

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    Straight from Fox "News" website

    Expert: No Doubt Obama's Birth Certificate Is Legit

    By Jana Winter

    Published April 29, 2011

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    Obama's Birth Certificate

    The White House has released President Obama's long-form birth certificate, saying the do ent is "proof positive" the president was born in Hawaii.

    It didn’t take long for some of President Obama’s doubters to claim the long-awaited birth certificate posted online by the White House on Wednesday had been altered or might be a fake.

    But a leading software expert says there’s no doubt about its authenticity, and he dismisses claims of fraud as flat-out wrong.

    The doubters have latched onto the idea that Adobe Illustrator — the premier program for computer graphic artists — “reveals” evidence of do ent manipulation in the Obama birth certificate. They note Illustrator reveals nine separate layers of the do ent, and claim it’s “proof” the file has been altered.

    But that’s not so, says Jean-Claude Tremblay, a leading software trainer and Adobe-certified expert, who has years of experience working with and teaching Adobe Illustrator.


    “You should not be so su ious about this,” Tremblay told FoxNews.com, dismissing the allegations.

    He said the layers cited by doubters are evidence of the use of common, off-the-shelf scanning software — not evidence of a forgery. “I have seen a lot of illustrator do ents that come from photos and contain those kind of clippings—and it looks exactly like this,” he said.


    Tremblay explained that the scanner optical character recognition (OCR) software attempts to translate characters or words in a photograph into text. He said the layers cited by the doubters shows that software at work – and nothing more.

    “When you open it in Illustrator it looks like layers, but it doesn’t look like someone built it from scratch. If someone made a fake it wouldn’t look like this,” he said.“Some scanning software is trying to separate the background and the text and splitting element into layers and parts of layers.”

    Tremblay also said that during the scanning process, instances where the software was unable to separate text fully from background led to the creation of a separate layer within the do ent. This could be places where a signature runs over the line of background, or typed characters touch the internal border of the do ent.

    “I know that you can scan a do ent from a scanner most of the time it will appear as one piece, but that doesn’t mean that there’s no software that’s doing this kind of stuff,” he said, adding that it’s really quite common.

    “I’d be more afraid it’d be fake if it was one in piece. It would be harder to check if it’s a good one if it’s a fake,” Tremblay said.
    But...even still...you ignorant hard headed holes will still choose not to believe reality...

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    I'm still waiting for Breitbart to pull out the 'that kind of font wasn't created till the 70's' card or something (even though it was)....it's amazing how swift-boated the wing-nuts were on this issue.....frankly disappointing......

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    Why, why, why?


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    It's so obvious it's a forgery.

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